Phase3 Vaporizers

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
Sorry you’re having to deal with illness but I think you need to hire someone more reliable to help out, close down orders for a while, or at least put a message on the site warning people to expect delays. It’s order #K0WKZ fwiw. I don’t need a refund yet if it’s still coming.

Thanks so much for your patience and understanding, I hope you enjoy the ZX as much as we all do!

Just tested my ZX in the OWW heat stand (titanium SKO post/heat shield) and it works great. I also have the OWW 18mm TKO post but still waiting on my ZXL to be accepted by the post office.

Super classy!! Thanks so much for your continued support, ZXL feedback has been great so I hope you like it! Everybody has been telling me the flavor with the ZXL is insane.

Man. I'm still loving my ZX. Something about it takes me back to when I would combust with bongs and such. Didn't know vapes were a thing at the time.

Something about the zx scratches that itch better than any vape I've had so far. Including the og cloud and my beloved minivap. Idk maybe it's weird muscle memory of holding a lighter to a bowl being so close to handling the ZX while taking a hit?


Idk. But it is divine

The ZX was purposely created from chasing that classic one hit “snap” bong hit experience but with an ultra pure convection extraction for maximum flavor.

The thing about the larger ball vapes is there’s some inherent efficiency bonus points that come with vaping that can make it harder sometimes to finish a bowl in one hit at the lower temperature range.

That’s why I downsized to the 14MM when I created the S-Pro/Z8/SX/ZX





Personally, I wouldn’t bother with anything but the ZX bowl. I got one of the first pre orders for the ZX so I used the glass bowl pretty extensively since the ZX bowl didn’t come out until later. Worth noting that any 14mm glass joint works with a screen and could be used as a bowl (if you wanted to change it up). I’ve used a 14mm drop down for example. But I prefer the zx bowl since it makes it more like a diffuser than an injector (minimal green ring, no stir needed)

As for the rig, you’re better off with matching joint size to the intended vape so you’re not having to do too much breath control. Of course this is all a matter of personal preference! But it’s also nice not having to use adapters etc.

I never went back to glass after getting the ZXBowls in, though I have been thinking about making some in glass with the same ZXB design. 🤔

I also prefer simple and direct, I never use any adapters, drop downs, pass throughs or anything personally, but to each their own. I designed an ultra low profile “trashcatcher” the other day that could be kinda cool if people are trying to clean their rigs up. I don’t personally seem to get much debris in my glass besides standard condensation, but it could serve a role. Might be nice for Jhook usage since the path is so much more direct. I know quite a few people prefer to use the ZX with a j hook.

These guys are all correct and yet...yes it does make perfect sense to buy the JoDa bowl to use with only the ZX. I got mine for my Couch Log and use it mostly with that, but there's absolutely nothing that makes it not great for the ZX too. It could be your one and only bowl for it because of the adjustability, but there's no sense in denying yourself the ZX bowl, it's that awesome.

It's much more adjustable! ; )

Not exactly but more or less yes. the nozzle fits the taper, the taper continues enough below the nozzle to come close to the same diameter. The nozzle opening is close to the diameter of the bowl's main chamber tube but instead of a step to the same diameter, there's a cone to the same-ish diameter. You will not be able to mount the screen at the same depth as the zirconia bowl. The extra length of the joint and the basket's own depth mean that the closest it can be is about a third inch further away than with the Zi bowl. You would be able to place the screen closer to the heater than you can with the glass bowl, however. In any case, the ZX will have no trouble making up that distance, it just won't be the highly optimized interface that the ZX has with the Zi bowl.

It can differ because you can load it fuller and even move the screen further or closer to the heater. It's not the ZX bowl, but it does work pretty darn well for sure.

I tend to go with 14mm so it can fit everything, unless it's a particular setup where the 18mm interface is so much a part of the experience that it doesn't make sense to do otherwise. Like the ZXL and its bowl.

This is a great reply (as the norm when it’s a post from @coolbreeze )

The only thing I will say about adjustable bowls is I find with 100% pure convection there is a sweet spot for bowl size. I was thinking of putting a lower slot in the new ZX bowls for holding more herb but I’m not necessarily convinced it would improve the experience, I tend to think the way the ZX bowl currently is has a lot to do with the satisfaction of the ZX as a system. So to say, there’s only so much you can truly vaporize at once (another secret of the ZX design)

For me it’s important these devices all serve a direct purpose, which is why I don’t offer a “modular” platform.

For example simply putting a 14MM joint on a much larger bead chamber is going to wreck the turbulent flow because of all the additional drag and flow resistance, thereby greatly reducing heat transfer. The goal of PHASE3 is always all-out peak performance here, not versatility.

Me three. I'd love for others to have the opportunity to get a ZX, I feel it is a classic vape that deserves to live. But, I'm up for a conduction vape and some P3 stoniness. Some of Ryan's earlier models look amazing.

I decided to go forward and order more ZX’s a few days ago. I don’t think there’s really anything quite like it so for now it will live on 🤞 but I am going to look into making some prototypes of this new design too, as it uses some different technology and I think it could be fun to play with. I’m trying to decide if I should make it smaller like the ZX, or larger like the ZXL.

I’m trying to get back into the business mode again, honestly sometimes I feel like I vape too much and stop caring about anything 🤷‍♂️
I’m having fun working on new designs again, it had been a few months since I drew up any new parts.

Still could do the 25MM wireless ZXXL but I’m not totally sure what the demands like for that. When I posted my quartz 20MM InVerzion 1.5 wireless video on my Instagram it got more action than anything I’ve ever posted on there, but there hasn’t really been a bunch of people asking about wireless stuff since.

I came up with a pretty cool TinyMight stem the other day. Maybe I’ll post that somewhere but I think it’s a cool idea.

I would definitely be on board for a conduction leaning hybrid device! :leaf:

Thanks for your input!

Yea, me too. I know a lot of peeps look down on conduction, but I like the stoney affect myself.

Even though I’m always talking about how the ZX/ZXL is 100% pure convection and most other ball vapes are effectively conduction dominant, I’m truthfully not anti conduction either.

The thing with my ruby/sapphire ball vape is it’s inspired by the Glass Symphony, the OG ball vape which was 100% true convection and I always wanted to uphold that principle.

I do think personally for pure flavor purity with dry herb that a 100% hot air extraction is superior, and I believe that’s why so many customers tell me the ZX/ZXL flavor is their favorite.

The main benefit of conduction is the “extraction assistance.” I like to think of conduction as “true vaporization” and convection as a “hot air extraction.”

Conduction is somewhat closer to combustion in one regard as you’re using the plant material itself to assist in vaporization which allows for smoother vapor. The downside is that because you have to heat the plant material itself to vaporization temps there’s more thermal degradation present and a more roasted & toasted flavor bordering on char depending on how dark one takes it.

Some days I want to make familiar experiences that people can relate to and want; and other days I want to make what’s thermodynamically proper, but I find these are often two different things.




ZXL arrived today. This thing is a beast, love the screen shelf cut outs and heavy build quality. If anyone is looking for a heat stand option, the ZX and ZXL work with the OWW posts (SKO post for the ZX, TKO post for the ZXL).

That’s super epic right there, gotta be one of my favorite customer photos!!

You guys all have nicer setups than me 😂😂

Are those handles both from Ed? I sent Ed an email months ago about carrying those in my store but I think I was buying the first round of zirconia bowls at the time and didn’t really have the funds to get a bunch of them. Those definitely look really nice and classy! Something like that would be nice in my store especially for the ZXL. I still want to build my handle design too ( I swear I say this almost every post)

The ZXL is for sure a total tank, the bowl itself is a hammer 🔨
 

Axel_420

Well-Known Member
I never went back to glass after getting the ZXBowls in, though I have been thinking about making some in glass with the same ZXB design. 🤔
That would be really great!

I really enjoy your posts where you explain how your devices work and what's behind their design. I always learn something new, you ignite my passion.
Thank you for your wonderful works and ideas. I continue to love my ZX!
 
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Cheebsy

Microbe minion
How long are you are able to leave it on the glass, I would have thought that long term, the heat would eventually crack the glass?
I've been using a similar one of those glass stands since my inV 1.7 and all the other 18mm injectors I've used, then I use a reducer in the same stand for the z8 and zx. It works great and doesn't get hot at the foot.
 

lluther

Well-Known Member
I'm looking for a stainless steel bowl to use with the ZX, as I want to add a bit of conduction into the experience while also having the ability to move the screen closer to the baller head. Has anyone tried the SKO infinity bowl with the ZX?

Any other suggestions for an SS bowl with an adjustable screen that fits the ZX would be most welcome! :)
 

Oden

Well-Known Member
I'm looking for a stainless steel bowl to use with the ZX, as I want to add a bit of conduction into the experience while also having the ability to move the screen closer to the baller head. Has anyone tried the SKO infinity bowl with the ZX?

Any other suggestions for an SS bowl with an adjustable screen that fits the ZX would be most welcome! :)
I'm looking for a stainless steel bowl to use with the ZX, as I want to add a bit of conduction into the experience while also having the ability to move the screen closer to the baller head. Has anyone tried the SKO infinity bowl with the ZX?

Any other suggestions for an SS bowl with an adjustable screen that fits the ZX would be most welcome! :)
I have a friend who bought this bowl specifically for his ZX and for the same reasons as you and he is very satisfied with it. But the ZX and Zbol combo remains his favorite in comparison.
The CC bowl also works with 14 injectors and you have three stages to adjust the screen.
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
I have a friend who bought this bowl specifically for his ZX and for the same reasons as you and he is very satisfied with it. But the ZX and Zbol combo remains his favorite in comparison.
The CC bowl also works with 14 injectors and you have three stages to adjust the screen.
There's a full kit for the bowl, now, too, so you can get a complete one even if you have not gotten the Omega set:
 

Oden

Well-Known Member
No. But it does work extremely well with 22mm diffusers.
Ok so it works perfectly with a 14 injector like the ZX, and 22 diffusers.
I'm keen to try one with the ZX now that a ready-made bowl is available.
The nozzles included are for connecting it to your waterpipe.
Yes, it’s super practical because I use 14 and 18 for my different glass platforms.
 

Grass Yes

Yes
Staff member
Ok so it works perfectly with a 14 injector like the ZX, and 22 diffusers.
I'm keen to try one with the ZX now that a ready-made bowl is available.
Yes, it’s super practical because I use 14 and 18 for my different glass platforms.
Just one caveat, the 14mm opening is very near the size of the ZX nozzle. If you are using a cold Vulcan it could get stuck. I haven't had it happen to me but I thought I would mention it. If you heat the Vulcan (with another coil) that will eliminate that chance of sticking.
 

Vapeymcvaperson

New Member
Reading these comments makes me want to keep offering the ZX as I know it's a great design that excels at what it's made to do, I'll see what I can do to keep them coming. It would be cool to do some new designs too; it's always fun to me to test new designs and work on these things.
It finally arrived and hits like a champ as everyone else had said. Keep up the good work.
 

dtrdrk

Well-Known Member
Im interested in this vape. But im a bit concerned from the videos i saw. One on page #138, the other on the Troy YouTube show. The bowls dont look evenly extracted... in both videos some of the material is on the edge of combustion, while there is still bright green in there. Whats your experience regarding this?

I still remember buying into the rbt splinter hype, just to find out that it had terrible hotspots and no one ever mentioned the issue :)
 
dtrdrk,

Oden

Well-Known Member
Im interested in this vape. But im a bit concerned from the videos i saw. One on page #138, the other on the Troy YouTube show. The bowls dont look evenly extracted... in both videos some of the material is on the edge of combustion, while there is still bright green in there. Whats your experience regarding this?

I still remember buying into the rbt splinter hype, just to find out that it had terrible hotspots and no one ever mentioned the issue :)
I always enjoy a very good coffee brown extraction with my ZX and Zbol without having to stir.
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
Im interested in this vape. But im a bit concerned from the videos i saw. One on page #138, the other on the Troy YouTube show. The bowls dont look evenly extracted... in both videos some of the material is on the edge of combustion, while there is still bright green in there. Whats your experience regarding this?

I still remember buying into the rbt splinter hype, just to find out that it had terrible hotspots and no one ever mentioned the issue :)
I think what you're seeing in the video on 138 looks a lot like what you'd expect: even browning of most of the load with lighter edges. The shape of the glass bowl really reduces this, but it's a feature of all injector vapes to some degree, which is why you usually stir if you've packed more than one hit, at least for a cleanup. With the Zirconia bowl, the heater's edge sits on a ledge that makes the bowl function much more like a diffuser setup, with a more or less perfect roast.
I think the visual effect you see is somewhat exaggerated by the video and in any case is mitigated to a large degree by the Zi bowls, especially if you are doing one-hitters with it.
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I can't guarantee the ZX would work well with a stainless steel bowl as it's going to remove a significant amount of heat from the system faster than it was designed or intended for. Perhaps someone who has tried it and comment if it works well.

You can heat soak the ZX heater inside the zirconia bowl for 10-15 minutes before loading and get a little bit of a boost, though the ZX was designed to always stay convection focused no matter how you use it.

I have a different ZX bowl design that adds a bit more conduction to the mix in the right places, while still remaining convection dominant throughout the hit.

I was going to send them out with the Z-Pro.

Im interested in this vape. But im a bit concerned from the videos i saw. One on page #138, the other on the Troy YouTube show. The bowls dont look evenly extracted... in both videos some of the material is on the edge of combustion, while there is still bright green in there. Whats your experience regarding this?

I still remember buying into the rbt splinter hype, just to find out that it had terrible hotspots and no one ever mentioned the issue :)

With the zirconia ceramic bowl and a clean screen is vapes extremely evenly for a true 100% convection vape. It's designed for even heat distribution. I can't understate the importance of a clean screen with any convection vape. If the corners are dirty then air will be forced to flow to the middle.

The glass bowl doesn't receive the heat quite as evenly due to the way the glass tapers.
 

dtrdrk

Well-Known Member
Thanks,
here are two screenshots from the show. Looks like hotspots to me 🤷‍♂️ please correct me if im wrong, but these shots remind me a lot of my splinter. Sadly i dont know how to attach something properly so i only have a link:

*ttps://imgur.com/a/AD3PVIb please insert an „h“ in front. Otherwise the forum messes up the link. Sorry, i dont understand this system…..

Also, some members here reported a bad plastic smell when going above 700… obviously one would not do that, but where does the smell come from? It does concern me since zirconia should not have any reaction at these temps right?

Hope i dont sound like a d*ck… i just want to make sure that its the right tool for me. I really like the idea.
 
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dtrdrk,

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
Thanks,
here are two screenshots from the show. Looks like hotspots to me 🤷‍♂️ please correct me if im wrong, but these shots remind me a lot of my splinter. Sadly i dont know how to attach something properly so i only have a link:

*ttps://imgur.com/a/AD3PVIb please insert an „h“ in front. Otherwise the forum messes up the link. Sorry, i dont understand this system…..
Pic didn't work.
Also, some members here reported a bad plastic smell when going above 700… obviously one would not do that, but where does the smell come from? It does concern me since zirconia should not have any reaction at these temps right?
I have no ideas on that; never experienced anything like it, but no, I wouldn't think so.
Hope i dont sound like a d*ck… i just want to make sure that its the right tool for me. I really like the idea.
I think your experience with a ZX will be much, much better than you fear, especially if your use is appropriate to it, ie, one-hitters. If you want to go larger, the ZX can handle amounts and distances beyond its basic operating range with little trouble, but you'd probably need to stir. With regards to the plastic smell, I just don't know what that's about. I did a burnoff in that range and noticed nothing unusual. It's been nothing but pure flavors for me.

Bottom line is that it's probably exactly what you're looking for unless you're wanting something that prefers a bigger load. In that case I wish I could recommend the ZXL because it is also really, really special.
 
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