Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom

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SirDarkened

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I am going to use it again around 5:30 after my lab.

I will let you know if it shuts off again but last time, no it simply shut off. It also shuts off during cleaning.

It is definitely not the temp light issue and idk what pcb stands for but it could be that.

Edit: I used my pax for an entire bowl and it turned off right at the end of it.

When I click the temp button it flashes a white light and goes off again.

Still not turning on. Been a few minutes...

DOUBLE EDIT: After cleaning the mouth piece thoroughly the pax now works properly.

Any explainations?
 
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Wizsteve

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doesn't sound like you had that much use of it for the censor to get dirty.
or for the mouthpiece button to get stuck.
are you using hi temps?
yes lube should be used i use hi-temp food grade lube, works better than there lube.

i would clean the pax lube the mouthpiece and recharge it .if it happens again yes you will need to send it back.
you could have a faulty/damaged printed circuit board (pcb) .

you had this problem since you got it correct?
 
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SirDarkened

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No. This just happened recently.

I have never used the lube before because it has always been out of reach...

I will use the lube on the mourh piece and report back if anything changes. It just preformed perfectly again after the cleaning.
 
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jdiesel

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My Pax update: Shipped my Pax priority back to Ploom. They say they should either repair mine or issue me a new one.

Said they would throw some screens in to cover the shipping. Cost like $32 to ship it overnight to Delta, BC from Vancouver, BC...

On a side note, has anyone made a homemade cleaning kit? I ran out of pipe cleaners and had to get some more at a craft store. Found the same ones they include. I was wondering what you could use for the sterilizing wipes? Could you just lightly coat the pipe cleaners with Iso?
 
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Wizsteve

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No. This just happened recently.

I have never used the lube before because it has always been out of reach...

I will use the lube on the mourh piece and report back if anything changes. It just preformed perfectly again after the cleaning.


ok so it worked fine when you got it but over time its doing this?

the lube i use is easy to get most big stores carry it

My Pax update: Shipped my Pax priority back to Ploom. They say they should either repair mine or issue me a new one.

Said they would throw some screens in to cover the shipping. Cost like $32 to ship it overnight to Delta, BC from Vancouver, BC...

On a side note, has anyone made a homemade cleaning kit? I ran out of pipe cleaners and had to get some more at a craft store. Found the same ones they include. I was wondering what you could use for the sterilizing wipes? Could you just lightly coat the pipe cleaners with Iso?

yes just dip the tip of the pipe cleaner in iso use a paper towel to spread it down you don't need much

for hand made wipes ? old cotton sheets work cut into 2 inch squares
 
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kevinnphamm

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No. This just happened recently.

I have never used the lube before because it has always been out of reach...

I will use the lube on the mourh piece and report back if anything changes. It just preformed perfectly again after the cleaning.


After fiddling with my Pax, I've come to realize that the main component creating this temp light issue for me has been the spring. Each time I've cleaned, I choose one thing to "not clean" and see how it affects my Pax. After I see what happens, I would obviously clean that.

But I noticed that when the spring is sitting incorrectly, it would cause the temp light issue. Often times, I would just shove a plastic denta-pic in there just to get the spring moving rapidly again to unstick any resin that may have attached itself to the spring. That seems to fix the issue for the time being (that session and maybe the next one).

To do a deep clean of it, I take the spring out, leave it ISO for awhile, wipe dry, then add a little PG to a q-tip and rub it around the spring.
 
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VaporsVaporizer

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On a side note, has anyone made a homemade cleaning kit? I ran out of pipe cleaners and had to get some more at a craft store. Found the same ones they include. I was wondering what you could use for the sterilizing wipes? Could you just lightly coat the pipe cleaners with Iso?
You can always buy alcohol wipes at the pharmacy, it's about $2.50 for 100 of them.
 
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jdiesel

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You can always buy alcohol wipes at the pharmacy, it's about $2.50 for 100 of them.

Thanks! I will look into getting some of those wipes. I've also heard of people buying some type of food grade lubricant to apply to the mouth piece. Has anyone picked up anything like that? I know you can get some on Ebay.
 
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Wizsteve

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After fiddling with my Pax, I've come to realize that the main component creating this temp light issue for me has been the spring. Each time I've cleaned, I choose one thing to "not clean" and see how it affects my Pax. After I see what happens, I would obviously clean that.

But I noticed that when the spring is sitting incorrectly, it would cause the temp light issue. Often times, I would just shove a plastic denta-pic in there just to get the spring moving rapidly again to unstick any resin that may have attached itself to the spring. That seems to fix the issue for the time being (that session and maybe the next one).

To do a deep clean of it, I take the spring out, leave it ISO for awhile, wipe dry, then add a little PG to a q-tip and rub it around the spring.

you need to take apart your pax to remove the spring? that could void the warranty.
but haven't heard if it does or not .

btw could you post a few pics of the inside of your pax before cleaning
been working on a fix for this issue, so far using a different lube is doing wonders,

i done one mod on mine so far plus change the lube have another to try but so far never seen those issues i don't even need to clean my paxes just wish i had more ppl trying the lube i use see if they get same results.

Thanks! I will look into getting some of those wipes. I've also heard of people buying some type of food grade lubricant to apply to the mouth piece. Has anyone picked up anything like that? I know you can get some on Ebay.

the lube is the same stuff they use on super automatic coffee machines hi temp
petrol-gel-sanitary-lubricant-4-oz-tube.jpg

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/pet...-4-oz-tube/401PETROGEL.html?utm_source=Amazon[/quote
 
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jdiesel

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you need to take apart your pax to remove the spring? that could void the warranty.
but haven't heard if it does or not .

btw could you post a few pics of the inside of your pax before cleaning
been working on a fix for this issue, so far using a different lube is doing wonders,

i done one mod on mine so far plus change the lube have another to try but so far never seen those issues i don't even need to clean my paxes just wish i had more ppl trying the lube i use see if they get same results.



the lube is the same stuff they use on super automatic coffee machines hi temp
petrol-gel-sanitary-lubricant-4-oz-tube.jpg

http://www.webstaurantstore.com/pet...-4-oz-tube/401PETROGEL.html?utm_source=Amazon[/quote

Where can you buy this type of lube? I need to get me a bottle.
 
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jdiesel

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most major stores carry the lube ,however a restaurant supply store will have it for sure]

Okay perfect. Just going to load up on cleaning gear for when I get my new Pax in. Going to keep this one super clean, hopefully clean every couple of days... I'm wondering if there are more firmer pipe cleaners out there? The arts and craft type sometimes seem to leave fibres inside the vapor tube.

I just really love the high you get from it. Actually doesn't make me all burnt out and tired, keeps me creative and just feeling good whenever I use it. Nice to give the lungs a break. I'll probs be vaping full time when I get my unit back.
 
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SirDarkened

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Okay so I have had my unit for exactly a week and had no issues ever until that one night.

Then it was dirty and I had the issue but since no issues.

I am debating. It definitely is weird it shut off but I'll keep you guys posted.

I'll use mouthpiece lube and keep the mouthpiece clean and see if the problem continues to occur.


Also you can buy pipe cleaners at walmart (they are a bit tricky to find) and they are long enough to easily pull through the pax back and forth to clean the vapor path perfectly each time. I can post a picture of them later.
 
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jabba

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I've just completed reading this entire 405 page thread. I bought my PAX at a local HS nearly 3 weeks ago and Ploom affirmed that my local hs is an authorized seller. I love the damn thing. I've had absolutely none of the problems which plague the writers of many posts on this thread. Some of my good fortune with my PAX may be due to the expertise and experiences offered in this thread....you solved my problems before they appeared! I am a regular but light user. I find no difficulty or problems with the PAX in terms of odor, battery life, temp light, screen placement, charging etc. I expect any utensil to have some odor with frequent use. My battery life surpasses my "away from charger" needs, I've never had a temp light issue, my screen doesn't come out even when slapping the pax to dump ABV, and charge times are FAST. I can most def see that a heavier toker/user may find more "issues" to blame towards the PAX....and I've concluded that nearly any device with a similar utility would suffer under such scrutiny. This thing is well made, reliable, and can be quite efficient depending on your needs/wants. The PAX can also adapt to heavier user needs/wants and surpass expectations. I am both surprised and impressed that this little vape lived up to both its hype AND its price tag.

In 405 pages...I was surprised that nobody discussed the PAX's light in a negative fashion. Ya...it is cool...it is really really cool and a neat design. Not only is it cool....it is highly functional in its simplicity. The PAX light, however, defies its otherwise extremely stealthy design. I know that I can use my thumb to mask the light....but I'd sure prefer a way to simply turn the light off as/when desired.

Among my favorite prior posts:

1) Mentos caps!...excellent...still looking for this gum in my area...I WILL FIND THIS!
2) 20mm brass screen for small oven loads. EFFICIENT! GAME CHANGER! LOVE THIS!

I don't want to ruffle any feathers by bringing up the "notched oven" debate....but I have to. My pax looks just like the one posted on this thread prior...and you can clearly see the "notch". The big issue for me with this debate...is that the "notch" is not a notch at all. The "notch" is rather a bulge (male) convex at each of the short sides of the oven opening rectangle. This bulge runs from near the top of the oven (oven door side) to near the bottom of the oven (heat and air hole bottom)....centered at each end of the oven. Each PAX screen.....on its short sides which fit at the oven's bulge ends...have a nearly indiscernible cutout (female) which fits around this bulge at each end of the oven. These ends of the screen are not scalloped like the long sides of the screen....but rather a single scallop/dimple indention which spoons the oven bulge(s) at each end. Some of your older units may not have this....but I can assure you that mine does. When clean...if I take the tip of my mechanical pencil (with lead retracted), I can "feel" the bulge at each end of the oven as I draw across them....this is no illusion....and for what it's worth....I'm not crazy (yet). I don't know whether this fixes any screen "issues" that folks are having....but I'm having no issues with my screen staying put. After cleaning, I gently allow the screen end opposite the air hole to fall into placefirst ...this allows me to then drop the other side of the screen to rest high in the oven cavity over the air hole side. I then firmly but gently push down on the screen at the air hole side. This leaves a screen which should be sitting slightly higher at the air hole side of the oven while the other side sits lower at/near the oven bottom. It never moves from that position until i poke a pipe cleaner down from the top as I begin a cleaning.

I look forward to following new posts at a more leisurely pace. I feel like I just finished reading "War & Peace" :)
 
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jeff

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I've just completed reading this entire 405 page thread. I bought my PAX at a local HS nearly 3 weeks ago and Ploom affirmed that my local hs is an authorized seller. I love the damn thing. I've had absolutely none of the problems which plague the writers of many posts on this thread. Some of my good fortune with my PAX may be due to the expertise and experiences offered in this thread....you solved my problems before they appeared! I am a regular but light user. I find no difficulty or problems with the PAX in terms of odor, battery life, temp light, screen placement, charging etc. I expect any utensil to have some odor with frequent use. My battery life surpasses my "away from charger" needs, I've never had a temp light issue, my screen doesn't come out even when slapping the pax to dump ABV, and charge times are FAST. I can most def see that a heavier toker/user may find more "issues" to blame towards the PAX....and I've concluded that nearly any device with a similar utility would suffer under such scrutiny. This thing is well made, reliable, and can be quite efficient depending on your needs/wants. The PAX can also adapt to heavier user needs/wants and surpass expectations. I am both surprised and impressed that this little vape lived up to both its hype AND its price tag.

In 405 pages...I was surprised that nobody discussed the PAX's light in a negative fashion. Ya...it is cool...it is really really cool and a neat design. Not only is it cool....it is highly functional in its simplicity. The PAX light, however, defies its otherwise extremely stealthy design. I know that I can use my thumb to mask the light....but I'd sure prefer a way to simply turn the light off as/when desired.

Among my favorite prior posts:

1) Mentos caps!...excellent...still looking for this gum in my area...I WILL FIND THIS!
2) 20mm brass screen for small oven loads. EFFICIENT! GAME CHANGER! LOVE THIS!

I don't want to ruffle any feathers by bringing up the "notched oven" debate....but I have to. My pax looks just like the one posted on this thread prior...and you can clearly see the "notch". The big issue for me with this debate...is that the "notch" is not a notch at all. The "notch" is rather a bulge (male) convex at each of the short sides of the oven rectangle. This bulge runs from near the top of the oven to near the bottom of the oven....centered at each end of the oven. Each PAX screen.....on its short sides which fit at the oven's bulge ends...have a nearly indiscernible cutout (female) which fits around this bulge at each end of the oven. These ends of the screen are not scalloped like the long sides of the screen....but rather a single scallop/dimple indention which spoons the oven bulge(s) at each end. Some of your older units may not have this....but I can assure you that mine does. When clean...if I take the tip of my mechanical pencil (with lead retracted), I can "feel" the bulge at each end of the oven as I draw across them....this is no illusion....and for what it's worth....I'm not crazy (yet). I don't know whether this fixes any screen "issues" that folks are having....but I'm having no issues with my screen staying put. After cleaning, I gently allow the screen end opposite the air hole to fall into placefirst ...this allows me to then drop the other side of the screen to rest high in the oven cavity over the air hole side. I then firmly but gently push down on the screen at the air hole side. This leaves a screen which should be sitting slightly higher at the air hole side of the oven while the other side sits lower at/near the oven bottom. It never moves from that position until i poke a pipe cleaner down from the top as I begin a cleaning.

I look forward to following new posts at a more leisurely pace. I feel like I just finished reading "War & Peace" :)
+1 For the Notches!!!!!
 
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Shadowdjinni

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My Pax update: Shipped my Pax priority back to Ploom. They say they should either repair mine or issue me a new one.

Said they would throw some screens in to cover the shipping. Cost like $32 to ship it overnight to Delta, BC from Vancouver, BC...

On a side note, has anyone made a homemade cleaning kit? I ran out of pipe cleaners and had to get some more at a craft store. Found the same ones they include. I was wondering what you could use for the sterilizing wipes? Could you just lightly coat the pipe cleaners with Iso?

They always seem to throw in extra screens. Try to swindle a cleaning kit out of them, it's been noted here that those have been included as well.

Edit: As for how often you want to clean it, every few days seems excessive. I've found that after using it 3+ times a day, I only need to give it a good clean once a week; by good, I mean a solid 30-45m total clean.

As for the perm. home cleaning kit, I've gone from disposable pipe cleaners to using a permanent one. The bristles are just hard enough that they don't scratch the metal inside the draw tube and I can just wipe the iso-resin on a paper towel. I also don't use the iso wipes and instead use liquid 95% iso; pour a shot glass full, let the screen soak in it to loosen the hardened resin, and dip the perm. pipe cleaner in said liquid (wiping off the excess on a paper towel). It's SO much cheaper than buying pipe cleaners bimonthly and worrying about wipes. All in all it cost me $10 bucks, mostly for the big bottle of iso.
 
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jabba

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That reminds me....I nearly forgot to discuss "cleaning" in my prior post.

I'm not sure what I'd do with 45 minutes to clean my PAX....I think I could clean 9 of them good as new in 45 minutes if cleaned weekly at my level of usage. I've spent 30+ minutes per clean on my old combustos.....but pax is an easy 5 minute job. For those of us that enjoy the "ritual" of a utensil....the PAX provides ritual in spades. I actually enjoy cleaning the ole PAX and its good as new with about 5 minutes of my ritual pampering. I use ISO, Q tips, DenTek piks, and pipe cleaners. Another difference between my experience and the general tone of this thread with regard to cleaning....I think the PAX is EASY PEASY to clean....and I clean it relatively often. I'd bet that a fair amount of cleaning "issues" arise from the use of oils, waxes and various other non flower yummies.
 

Wizsteve

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http://www.ploom.com/news/Canada/

You must not have bought it from Ploom then.

they was shipping to canada before this from usa,now they got a warehouse there they can ship from .
no customs fees or taxes and quicker delivery times! No more additional wait and fees! Love, your neighbors from the south.

so yea he bought from ploom but had fees to pay, now they wont have to pay those fees anymore
 
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Deadshort480

We're here to fuck shit up.
The hard bristles are just a hard plastic, not wire. All pipe cleaners have a wire running down the middle, but I've never seen a pipe cleaner with wire bristles. Then again, I've never looked for pipe cleaners with wire bristles.
 
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