Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom
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redijedi808
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Also, did you buy it from an authorized dealer? Best way to make sure your PAX is legit is to see if it has the Simon game. Not sure when it was incorporated but if you recently bought your PAX, you should have it.
I follow @GraffiX tutorial for cleaning and loading.
I take drags like vapecritic(youtube of his demo session)
I follow @GraffiX tutorial for cleaning and loading.
I take drags like vapecritic(youtube of his demo session)
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DogBoy
know fear
...a clone user on an outlaw biker site had more useful information than I received here...he liked his and said it worked better than Pax...
...when I had questions and concerns aboot Pax I was mostly told it was counterfeit or broken and I should send it back...concerns were met with deflection and censorship from moderator...talk aboot a red flag, eh...???...
...one guy told me something useful, that the Pax oven takes aboot a minute to heat...
...vaping is indeed a lot more involved than just packing a bowl but some of us cannot or will not smoke...the stealth element ads another dimension but is not the primary reason for vaping in my case...
...some vapers are after specific effects and not just trying to get baked...that's what the temperature settings are aboot...I seem to prefer the high setting... (grin)
...personally I am recent ex smoker...I had hoped for a more pleasant experience from Pax but have come to appreciate the limitations imposed by the form factor...
...not having any way to charge the battery besides the special stand is the most significant issue against Pax, imho...this is not such an issue as it could be as the battery lasted almost 12 hours and many oven loads in one session...
...the way it fits the hand when stirring or loading in the field is the best feature....this is not a small issue for me...
...I had originally considered sending Pax back to Ploom asking for a refund, explaining I had safety concerns that I was told not to worry aboot because OSHA said it is OK for industrial workers to inhale some steel, and further discussion was banned...
...left open to speculation is whether Pax emits steel and if so are the emissions within OSHA standards...management here speculates that the Pax is within standards but no one is willing/able to publish data...
...I though that might make a point at Ploom...but if I did THAT , I wouldn't have the Pax...!!!...
...if I were truly concerned aboot emissions I would worry aboot melnimine or some such rather than steel shaving...
(...I think it would be proper and very cool if there was an independent testing body that could analyze vaperizer emissions and report the data to us, the general public...
...I guess the comercial applications are less accessible than the current system...)
...there is a learning curve to getting good hits from Pax and it unevenly vapes the material but this is true of all the small vaperizers from what I can see...
...the Pax stays...I am scoping out the Elevape SV, but it has issues of it's own...
...in the meantime I don't want to give up the Pax...just need to be careful with it...
...I can't see how it is worse that a tiny pipe...
...I guess that means I like it...
...when I had questions and concerns aboot Pax I was mostly told it was counterfeit or broken and I should send it back...concerns were met with deflection and censorship from moderator...talk aboot a red flag, eh...???...
...one guy told me something useful, that the Pax oven takes aboot a minute to heat...
...vaping is indeed a lot more involved than just packing a bowl but some of us cannot or will not smoke...the stealth element ads another dimension but is not the primary reason for vaping in my case...
...some vapers are after specific effects and not just trying to get baked...that's what the temperature settings are aboot...I seem to prefer the high setting... (grin)
...personally I am recent ex smoker...I had hoped for a more pleasant experience from Pax but have come to appreciate the limitations imposed by the form factor...
...not having any way to charge the battery besides the special stand is the most significant issue against Pax, imho...this is not such an issue as it could be as the battery lasted almost 12 hours and many oven loads in one session...
...the way it fits the hand when stirring or loading in the field is the best feature....this is not a small issue for me...
...I had originally considered sending Pax back to Ploom asking for a refund, explaining I had safety concerns that I was told not to worry aboot because OSHA said it is OK for industrial workers to inhale some steel, and further discussion was banned...
...left open to speculation is whether Pax emits steel and if so are the emissions within OSHA standards...management here speculates that the Pax is within standards but no one is willing/able to publish data...
...I though that might make a point at Ploom...but if I did THAT , I wouldn't have the Pax...!!!...
...if I were truly concerned aboot emissions I would worry aboot melnimine or some such rather than steel shaving...
(...I think it would be proper and very cool if there was an independent testing body that could analyze vaperizer emissions and report the data to us, the general public...
...I guess the comercial applications are less accessible than the current system...)
...there is a learning curve to getting good hits from Pax and it unevenly vapes the material but this is true of all the small vaperizers from what I can see...
...the Pax stays...I am scoping out the Elevape SV, but it has issues of it's own...
...in the meantime I don't want to give up the Pax...just need to be careful with it...
...I can't see how it is worse that a tiny pipe...
...I guess that means I like it...
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This is nonsense. Your "summary" here is inaccurate, something anyone can verify just by reading a few pages back in this thread. You were told to stop posting completely unjustified speculation that contradicted published scientific studies. FC has a policy against spreading misinformation, which is what you insisted on doing. You can believe whatever wild theory you like, but you can't just spread it around FC as fact. Also, we have a rule against discussing moderator decisions in public posts. You might spend a few minutes re-visiting the rules.
This accusation is also nonsense as anyone who has read much of this thread knows. You seem to be begging for a warning point.
Mcmeekin
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Nmy dilemma is, I can't get a quote on for about $150 with a 3 year warranty. I know that the genuine one comes with a 10 year warranty, but i think three years is more than enough to the savings.
Sorry, I meant I can get a clone for about 150.
Sorry, I meant I can get a clone for about 150.
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NickDlow
Log Hog
If u think there is a learning curve with the most simple vape on the market, u have issues. U load it click a mouthpiece have one of three heat settings not that complicated. If u use the dual screen method every oven is 100% evenly vaped every single time. N ur metal chipping theory is nonsense u have zero fact to support ur argument besides seeing a couple scratches because u don't know how to put a mouthpiece on straight. Even if those microscopic ss shavings are getting inhaled there were facts presented that it won't harm u yet ur still say the same crap over n over no matter what facts u are told. Ur just to thick headed. I highly doubt they would be selling a product that is a danger to the public. I would think there would be some types of regulation n tests performed before they sell them. If ur so damn worried just get rid of ur pax so u can stop posting ur nonsense and let ppl read facts about the pax.
Wizsteve
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your in the usa? if so you can forget about any warranties you wont be able to ship it to them and in a couple years they most likely wont be able to ship to you
main reason FDA has step in so most likely customs would seize it and have you ever shipped anything to china? shipping cost is a nightmare custom fees and insurance plus shipping
and last that company you buy from today maybe gone tomorrow.
so i would shop around more btw that 150 after shipping and customs fees come to almost 200 when coming from china.(unless they send it marked gift)
@DogBoy some clones do in fact have a higher temp setting by 10 degree Celsius on each setting so some may like and others would not (just too hot like starting on med) so when comes to temp issues getting too hot or taking to long to heat up our first thought it's a clone
if you read thru these forums you see the problems of clones i would never suggest to anyone to buy a clone just wont work like the real thing most neg reviews on the pax here was in fact clone users at least none of them have blow up .
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DogBoy
know fear
...wow...!!!...I see we have progressed to threats and insults... (LoL)
...don't worry...I won't bother with posting here much anymore...
...if it weren't for thoughtful, thought provoking individuals like Wizsteve this forum would have limited merit, imho...
...@ vapechick : one issue I indeed had was getting good hits off Pax...
...I was able to ascertain that finely ground, dry herb and a tight pack is instrumental in obtaining the desired results...(just not here)(grin)
...oh, I almost forgot....stirring is important with these little vaperizers, too...otherwise the herb on the bottom gets baked...I have a special tool for this made from fine silver...it is agressive but forgiving to the steel...I stir every few hit to get some flavor and evenly vape the herb...
...not to deflect the issue or place blame on the user, the material being used is of course a crucial parameter...
...in my limited experience it seems that mid grade commercial products that may produce somewhat satisfactory results when combusted may fall short when vaped...
...there are also sedentary plant alkaloids you can pretty much avoid...but you can bake the crap out of the herb and get some too...
...I can vape a quantity of herb with satisfaction for much longer than I could smoke it...literally two or three hits and a Pax pack's worth of herb would be history...
...if Pax suks I can hardly wait to get a good vaporizer...
...methinks I will try the Plenty next... (it is just physics)
...don't worry...I won't bother with posting here much anymore...
...if it weren't for thoughtful, thought provoking individuals like Wizsteve this forum would have limited merit, imho...
...@ vapechick : one issue I indeed had was getting good hits off Pax...
...I was able to ascertain that finely ground, dry herb and a tight pack is instrumental in obtaining the desired results...(just not here)(grin)
...oh, I almost forgot....stirring is important with these little vaperizers, too...otherwise the herb on the bottom gets baked...I have a special tool for this made from fine silver...it is agressive but forgiving to the steel...I stir every few hit to get some flavor and evenly vape the herb...
...not to deflect the issue or place blame on the user, the material being used is of course a crucial parameter...
...in my limited experience it seems that mid grade commercial products that may produce somewhat satisfactory results when combusted may fall short when vaped...
...there are also sedentary plant alkaloids you can pretty much avoid...but you can bake the crap out of the herb and get some too...
...I can vape a quantity of herb with satisfaction for much longer than I could smoke it...literally two or three hits and a Pax pack's worth of herb would be history...
...if Pax suks I can hardly wait to get a good vaporizer...
...methinks I will try the Plenty next... (it is just physics)
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DogBoy
know fear
...why do people who put some one on "ignore" so often have to tell the person...???...is that the point...???...
...will 'cat follow me aboot wherever I post and post that little thing that shows he has me on "ignor"...?!?...
...I have seen guys do that...DogBoy out... .!.
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...will 'cat follow me aboot wherever I post and post that little thing that shows he has me on "ignor"...?!?...
...I have seen guys do that...DogBoy out... .!.
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VapechickV
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This is why I always end up back on the pipe! haha. Vaping is too complicated sometimes.
NickDlow
Log Hog
I personally go straight to the manufacturer u can't go wrong. It may be 30 or 40 bucks more but u kno it's legit and the 10 warranty is legit also.
This is why I always end up back on the pipe! haha. Vaping is too complicated sometimes.
Lol it's simple I promise. I just grind it up in my space case, pack the bowl about halfway. I use a reg SS screen n roll it up n place it on my bud to compact it when I place the oven lid on. Then I start on med for the tasty vapor and bump to high for the dense clouds. U will get the hang of it n once u do u won't touch that pipe lol but the extra screen is key
VapechickV
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Circa1999
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It looks like they charge CA tax, do you know any other options that would honor the warranty?
NickDlow
Log Hog
Just look for an "authorized" seller. I'm sure some of those vaporizer sites are. But I believe they won't honor the warranty if u purchase from a 3rd party (eBay, craigslist, ect.) but then again how would they know unless u tell them. But either way I wouldn't risk that for 30 bucks if I'm spending over 200 anyway. I've yet to have a problem with mine (knock on wood) but I like the peace of mind. But if some ppl are on a budget n would take the chance. To each his own
Shadowdjinni
Active Member
I would just like to send my utmost thanks to you for turning me on to this feature.
Ploom has been one of the best companies I've had to be a patron of in my life. Pre-paid shipping both ways (1-day to me/them and 2-day them/me), 100% new model when mine had the most minute default, and people who can speak English fluently [not a race issue, any skin-color can speak English with grammar should they properly learn].
Jethro
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Having something strange happening with my replacement Pax. I got this back from Ploom about a month ago, it's brand new. The first time I cleaned it, I did it like my old one, I take the mouthpiece off and start cleaning. Well this new Pax continues to heat even when the mouthpiece is removed. I never had to before, but now I have to take the mouthpiece off, let it heat up and sit for 5 minutes with the mouthpiece off. It should not continue to heat with the mouthpiece removed. Another thing that is happening and not really an issue, but is strange, the temp adjuster button flashes sometimes while it's heating. I have never seen this. I actually took video of the button flashing with the mouthpiece removed, once I get it uploaded to my computer I will post it.
I love this device but after a year and a half with it, I think I am finally done. I can not in good conscious recommend this device to anyone- it is just too problematic. Please Ploom, if you are reading this, make your device the absolute best portable vape on the market and GIVE IT A POWER SWITCH!!! For the love of all that is sacred, ditch the stupid, fancy mouthpiece power switch system. Ploom is great company, that is for sure. They serviced me very well and I am sure if I called them about this issue I would get a brand new one sent out. But it is a shame that the downfall of this device is this "power switch" mouthpiece. I may actually screw the warranty- because what good is it really if it's always in the mail- and try to install an on/off switch on my own. It really is the only downfall of the Pax, but it is a fatal flaw. Sad day here...
I love this device but after a year and a half with it, I think I am finally done. I can not in good conscious recommend this device to anyone- it is just too problematic. Please Ploom, if you are reading this, make your device the absolute best portable vape on the market and GIVE IT A POWER SWITCH!!! For the love of all that is sacred, ditch the stupid, fancy mouthpiece power switch system. Ploom is great company, that is for sure. They serviced me very well and I am sure if I called them about this issue I would get a brand new one sent out. But it is a shame that the downfall of this device is this "power switch" mouthpiece. I may actually screw the warranty- because what good is it really if it's always in the mail- and try to install an on/off switch on my own. It really is the only downfall of the Pax, but it is a fatal flaw. Sad day here...
Jethro
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Here is that video if interested. Sorry for the quality, dark in my house and my phone camera sucks.
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Sorry mods about the double post... I have to get out of that habit. If you can merge and delete this post that would be great, please and thank you.
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Sorry mods about the double post... I have to get out of that habit. If you can merge and delete this post that would be great, please and thank you.
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
Hows the flavor?
Jethro
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I personally think the flavor is great. It degrades quickly, like 3 or 4 hits in, but I think that is inherent with conduction vapes. I think if flavor is your primary concern a convection vape is probably a better choice, but using the Pax on low at first, then medium (ramping up method) can extend flavor longer. I'm giving the Firefly a shot next, hopefully it will be more to my liking. At least it has a power button.
Seasoned Senior
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You'll love the flavor of the Firefly once you've mastered it. The Pax is great for portability, holds a nice amount, and lasts a good while with a full charge. I always start on low and end on medium. That's plenty dark for me. I enjoy my Pax when it's clean, and I clean it a lot. I agree that flavor seems to degrade quickly with usage and wonder if I should have given the MFLB a try.
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