Discontinued Pax 2

[JoeKickass]

To everyone still wondering about VaporEarth, this is what they had to say:

"...if for some reason they don't provide you with warranty service, our policy is to cover the warranty on our own...."

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I understand why Pax wouldn't want online competition but this is kind of disappointing for those you decided to support Pax Labs and order directly from their website. Ordering directly from Pax Labs should offer some kind of benefit/incentive in return in my opinion; as from seeing this and the shipping chaos from a few weeks back, there will most likely be a decrease in sales directly from Pax Labs in the near future. Not trying to attack the company in anyway, but just offering my viewpoints as a rather upset customer. Mods please have mercy!

EDIT: Quotations.

Way to go VaporEarth! If they can offer that price and warranty the device I say more power to them

Ploom can do what they want, let your wallet decide

 

[berman1125]

I agree that my loads are not being as toasted on level 4 near the oven lid as in the pax1...I'd say its about 90℅ as cooked

 

[adam_baumm]

I want to try using a second pax 2 screen for the top of the load, if they have them for sale soon. I feel they should have included a couple screens with this. It needs one on top!

The first 3 tries at this have been disappointing, next I will make my herb bone dry and very fine, that has to produce dense vapor (I hope

 

[pakalolo]

I know bad reviews are not tolerated around here...

This is complete nonsense. FC is full of reviews that pan various devices, including a few in this thread. What we don't tolerate is anything that is intended to offend. You can criticize but you have to keep it respectful. You might want to keep in mind that exaggerations like this undermine your credibility.

This is not an invitation to defend yourself. If you feel a need for that, use a PM.

 

[showersmoker]

I want to try using a second pax 2 screen for the top of the load, if they have them for sale soon. I feel they should have included a couple screens with this. It needs one on top!

The first 3 tries at this have been disappointing, next I will make my herb bone dry and very fine, that has to produce dense vapor (I hope

I typically use the bottom screen when I pack a full load. I notice it helps cook everything more evenly. The trick is filling the chamber just right. If you don't put in enough the top screen will rattle around and not serve much of a purpose, but if you put in too much the oven lid won't close completely flush and the material doesn't heat evenly.

 

[adam_baumm]

I know bad reviews are not tolerated around here but for the sake of trying to save people some $$$ I'll take the beaten!

Here goes....

Don't waste your money on the screen sandwich kit.

Top get real hot.... I think it takes away for the efficiency

bottom screen doesn't fit snug.... so when you empty oven it comes out too....once again very hot.

simple solution... with any amount... just pack it real tight!

What I would do instead if you think you "need" something....

Think you need more airflow : take a file and improve the scallops on original screen.

Think you need a spacer : take a standard pipe screen and roll it and use that as your spacer.



Once again just my opinion

I typically use the bottom screen when I pack a full load. I notice it helps cook everything more evenly. The trick is filling the chamber just right. If you don't put in enough the top screen will rattle around and not serve much of a purpose, but if you put in too much the oven lid won't close completely flush and the material doesn't heat evenly.

Thanks, do you use a pax 2 screen on bottom and top of load?

 

[SmorezNTickles]

For those interested, I bought a multi tool for packing and cleaning. Can't remember if I found it in this sub? Shipping takes a while but for $3...hey I'll wait.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DS...&dpID=41kpJOG2KAL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

 

[Mr. Me2]

For those interested, I bought a multi tool for packing and cleaning. Can't remember if I found it in this sub? Shipping takes a while but for $3...hey I'll wait.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DS...&dpID=41kpJOG2KAL&ref=plSrch&pi=AC_SY200_QL40

You can find that tool or something very similar at most tobacco/cigar shops, so you don't have to wait (or pay) for shipping. The prices vary depending on the quality. But they usually have what you linked to at the register, and better/more expensive versions displayed in the glass cases.

 

[zor]

FWIW, I've been able to get a good pack using the edges of the oven lid. Hold it with the long end pointing downard and you can get a relatively tight pack, the only issue is that it doesn't seem to get flush against the side of the oven wall. I really don't care for the flavor if I stir it up so I'd rather exhaust the load first on all heat levels and then just dump the ABV brick out and use it for cooking .....plus I've learned that I don't like to carry anything other than a fully loaded pax if I'm going out for a few hours, so the less related gear the better

 

[JiggyJack]

@scott_dunlap @Ojan_at_PAX

Just saying ....

"All older version Haze owners now have the opportunity to upgrade their units at a very low cost of $99.00 (one time fee - unlimited version upgrades to cover all upcoming releases). The program enables buyers to donate all old version products to the Pay-It-Forward program which assists low income, severely ill or disabled senior citizens."

 

[chillersnov8p]

Haven't heard how efficient the pax2 is with weed yet. Any consensus?

 

[HerbieVonVapster]

For the 2 screen tip. If you have any of the old pax1 screens around not to hard to cut one end off and round off the corners. You do need 2 screens for it to work right.

First screen on top of the load packed down to the levels you want to use. Then just bend then the second screen to the point where the ends push down the first screen. You want it bent enough that the oven lid will push down on 2nd screen. This places the material closer to the bottom of the oven.

Hope I explained it right if not should be some more info on this in pax1 thread.

 

[fatbiker]

What spacer are you folks using? Are you referring to the New Vape products (pusher and bottom screen)?

What's the final verdict? Get the sandwich? Just the pusher? Something else?

I had both and if I did it again I would just buy the pusher. However, I thought it added to the draw resistance.

The Pusher seems to be cool, but what about airflow versus using the curved screen solution? It just seems that the Pusher more impedes airflow than a screen would. Appreciate input there.

Curved screen works 100X better. I have been a pax user for years and nothing works better than a tobacco screen pushed in the oven to compress the material.

 

[snorcan]

I just visited newvape.com and saw a picture is what looks like an aftermarket stainless oven lid for the pax 2. Anyone have any knowledge of such a piece in the making? The one thing that bugs me about the pax 2 is the plastic lid in contact with he oven and herb. I realize that it is made from thermally stable plastic but I still am not keen on the idea. A metal lid however would be cool, if it didn't get too too hot!

 

[whatavape]

Haven't heard how efficient the pax2 is with weed yet. Any consensus?

Not sure what you mean by efficiency, but:

1. My battery lasts far longer. The new battery is 3000mAh vs 2600 in the Pax 1. I usually get 2 full ovens out of the Pax 1 cycling through all 3 temps, while I get 4-5 out of the Pax 2 cycling through the lower 3 (420F is too high for me..)

2. My used material comes out far more even. I do not have to stir.

3. The lip sensor works - I can heat up to 3/4 petals, hit once, turn off, and my material is not still being heated. For the Pax 1, you wouldn't get much out of a small session if you came back to the material later.

4. I'm packing about 2/3 of what I did in the Pax 1 into the Pax 2. That said, I typically get more hits (no exact # since it varies depending on herb quality) with the P2.

Overall I think a lot has improved, but it's hard to say anything about efficiency. I hope that helps.

 

[SmorezNTickles]

I just visited newvape.com and saw a picture is what looks like an aftermarket stainless oven lid for the pax 2. Anyone have any knowledge of such a piece in the making? The one thing that bugs me about the pax 2 is the plastic lid in contact with he oven and herb. I realize that it is made from thermally stable plastic but I still am not keen on the idea. A metal lid however would be cool, if it didn't get too too hot!

Interesting...

 

[adam_baumm]

I am not finding this unit efficient at extraction.

I am still fine tuning my technique, they should have given some extra screens for top load, common

This is truly going to be a backup only.

 

[Darb]

My Pax2 is ok but I'm not that impressed with vapor production either. Wishing I had of bought a mighty instead.

 

[zor]

3. The lip sensor works - I can heat up to 3/4 petals, hit once, turn off, and my material is not still being heated. For the Pax 1, you wouldn't get much out of a small session if you came back to the material later.

When you say turn off do you mean turning the unit off? Because if so then I found that the experience is very similar when doing the same with the original Pax.

On a related note, the efficiency question makes me chuckle, get me a mass spectrometer and I'll spit out some numbers but this question doesn't make much sense to me at face value. As whatavape alludes to, how do you measure efficiency?

 

[Wzfbaby7]

I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger. I'll wait for the Grasshopper and see if that hopefully lives up to the hype.

 

[berman1125]

I think the gh will be a fine partner next to my p2

 

[adam_baumm]

When you say turn off do you mean turning the unit off? Because if so then I found that the experience is very similar when doing the same with the original Pax.

On a related note, the efficiency question makes me chuckle, get me a mass spectrometer and I'll spit out some numbers but this question doesn't make much sense to me at face value. As whatavape alludes to, how do you measure efficiency?

Actually efficient extraction is most important. It means it extracts the most flavor and effect. Try this pax2 then a mighty or even a plenty and then you will see efficient extraction. And that is my opinion based on my heavy usage.

 

[willieR]

Put a Mighty in your pocket...

 

[adam_baumm]

Put a Mighty in your pocket...

read all my posts, I like this pax 2 for build and stealth. Not happy yet with vapor production.

 

[Darb]

Put a Mighty in your pocket...

Soon enough...