The Kirkland paper bleeds through pretty easily to me.
Opinion on a press I found on ebay
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willsmokealot
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Hackerman
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Even the Kirkland will bleed if it's pressed too HOT or too HARD. I have found both of these things contribute to bleed. Someone here said they double wrap. That's a good idea that I'm going to try.
As for pressing, yes, I think we all way over do it. If I were to recommend one thing on a press it would be a gauge. It is not always an accurate reflection of the actual pressure on the load. But, it is a way to measure consistency from press to press. I do NOT have a gauge on mine and I sorely wish I did.
I wonder if I can adapt mine to a gauge???
As for pressing, yes, I think we all way over do it. If I were to recommend one thing on a press it would be a gauge. It is not always an accurate reflection of the actual pressure on the load. But, it is a way to measure consistency from press to press. I do NOT have a gauge on mine and I sorely wish I did.
I wonder if I can adapt mine to a gauge???
So now I am confused even more. If a vice will work well enough then what is wrong with the press I originally linked?
What tonnage and plate size would you want if you were to squish a QP all at once? Can that be done efficiently?
Would it be better to stick to smaller batches? Maybe an oz?
About temp. I read somewhere (or watched) where someone was saying the optimal temp for the puck is 150F and if you press fast at a higher temp the puck still gets to about the same temp.
Opinions?
Thanks All!
What tonnage and plate size would you want if you were to squish a QP all at once? Can that be done efficiently?
Would it be better to stick to smaller batches? Maybe an oz?
About temp. I read somewhere (or watched) where someone was saying the optimal temp for the puck is 150F and if you press fast at a higher temp the puck still gets to about the same temp.
Opinions?
Thanks All!
Hackerman
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OK, I did not know you wanted to press a QP all at once. That is a totally different game. And, I have zero experience in that.
Up to about 5 or 7 grams at one time is what most 'personal' users are doing. If you're pressing for sale or for supply, that is very different.
Sorry if I misled you.
Still, I don't like that first eBay press you linked. The technology jumped around early on in the game (as is typical in any new game) and many of the early presses had all kinds of issues.
I think the shop press you linked was cool. Had a gauge and everything. But, with any 'personal user' plates, you'll be limited to about 1/2 ounce or so. A 3x3 plate does about 3 to 4 grams nicely. My 3x7 plates do 2 loads next to each other for 6 or 8 grams per press. I did squeeze 14 grams into a filter once and pressed it but, yield was less and mess was more.
If you are looking to press large quantities like a half pound, you want to look at the commercial presses. I would start with Elysian Research and a user called Sunfire
I believe they capitalized on the drip tek thing.
If you are going to buy a large commercial rosin press, be prepared to spend some big money. And, be prepared to go through a LOT of weed. LOL
Again, sorry if I misled. I ASSumed we were all just pressing for personal use.
Up to about 5 or 7 grams at one time is what most 'personal' users are doing. If you're pressing for sale or for supply, that is very different.
Sorry if I misled you.
Still, I don't like that first eBay press you linked. The technology jumped around early on in the game (as is typical in any new game) and many of the early presses had all kinds of issues.
I think the shop press you linked was cool. Had a gauge and everything. But, with any 'personal user' plates, you'll be limited to about 1/2 ounce or so. A 3x3 plate does about 3 to 4 grams nicely. My 3x7 plates do 2 loads next to each other for 6 or 8 grams per press. I did squeeze 14 grams into a filter once and pressed it but, yield was less and mess was more.
If you are looking to press large quantities like a half pound, you want to look at the commercial presses. I would start with Elysian Research and a user called Sunfire
I believe they capitalized on the drip tek thing.
If you are going to buy a large commercial rosin press, be prepared to spend some big money. And, be prepared to go through a LOT of weed. LOL
Again, sorry if I misled. I ASSumed we were all just pressing for personal use.
I'm gonna try 35 lb parchment paper next. That's what some of the pros use.
IMO a bench vise is a pain in the ass for rosin unless you don't plan on using much. Good proof of concept but it takes too long to crank down and release.
You should look at something more like the Elysian press if you plan to press that much material at once. I would want something engineered to squish a QP if I was going that far with it.
Maybe? I've never measured the puck temp so I can't say.
Bandoo
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https://thesmokehub.com/product/manual-rosin-heat-press/?add-to-cart=628
Anybody seen this one? Can be gotten on Aliexpress for $190. Would a screw have enough pressure to do a 4 gram run?
Anybody seen this one? Can be gotten on Aliexpress for $190. Would a screw have enough pressure to do a 4 gram run?
Personally I would wait for dabpress to release some of their smaller units. Tthey will be rated with more force than these vise type presses. They should have them available in the next 4-8 weeks, and eventually on Amazon.
I don't want to try and influence you guys from trying these cheap old school units but there are levels to this tech and sometimes a difference in $50-100 is the difference in 4-5+ times the performance.
I have been looking at pics of the Elysian presses. They are VERY similar to a sketch I made a few days back of what I thought would be about perfect. I can build that press myself. Maybe even a bit stronger because my friend who will give me final approval on my design likes overkill almost as much as I do.
Edit: I should clarify that I am talking about the steel framed 20 ton model. Not the incredibly different RP30. That thing looks sick!
Edit: I should clarify that I am talking about the steel framed 20 ton model. Not the incredibly different RP30. That thing looks sick!
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Just remember it's the details that count. if you plan on copying their plate dimensions but not use the same heater, for example, you could run into problems.
My design utilizes 4”x7” Dabpress plates. Are they big enough?
I guess I'm confused, I thought you were thinking of building the whole thing, so you're just planning on building the press? Or are you just gonna slap the 4x7's on a HF 20 ton and call it a day?
I am going to build the frame myself so it can be compact and strong like the Elysian 20 ton. I also like the option of tipping it on its side.
I want my ram on the bottom too. I don’t plan to make an exact copy just very similar. Yes, I may sacrifice a bit by straying from the exact design but for the cost savings and satisfaction of DIY it’s worth it. I also like the option of being able to source replacement parts easily. If I use Dabpress I can do that.
Yeah that's cool, I dig that idea! FWIW Dabpress does have a similar compact unit coming soon. Excited to see your build, keep us posted!
It’s really kinda creepy that you said this right before I found the Daxtractor for sale."Crystal ball Crystal ball what say you?"
"I see a tall dark press in your future"
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That is one tall dark and sexy looking press!
willsmokealot
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just looked at them 35lb paper wow why do I feel like double wrapping will be cheaper. might get like a small pack what would be the size for a 3x7 plate. just got mine still looking for a press. Anything with a gauge is double if not tripled the prize man what to do I know someone mention getting a gauge one would of been better.
I don't find double wrapping to be a cure-all, the Kirkland bleeds easily, even double wrapped for me when doing small squishes. It seems to be the worst when squishing single nugs. Bottle tech packages are less likely to bleed. I don't have a gauge but I feel like I'm pretty gentle about my PSI, when other people use my press I'm usually telling them to be more gentle the whole time!
I'm gonna check a restaurant supply store and see if they have it cheaper. Maybe like Smart N Final.
Baron23
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If I were looking for commercial product, I may also want to look at Pure Pressure. High end, expensive, but from what I can see its a hell of a machine.
https://gopurepressure.com/collections/rosin-presses
I say they are proof that pretty sells. That is a 5 ton press. How can it possibly compare to an Elysian, Daxtractor or really any well built 20 ton press for that kind of money?
willsmokealot
New Member
yeah let me know what you guys find because so far they tripping on the cost for paper. But I guess ill do a small pack and also try some Costco brand and see how bad the thing is so you say bottle tech bleeds less through that's crazy single nug bleeds more through. this hobby starting to get expensive quick just anxious to make some dam rosin and feel like the machine starting to make me some fire instead of it costing me the wrong type of green.
Also if I am pressing some bubble hash what type of bag or tech should I use? Thanks guys for all the advice so far