next generation e-nails?

[Dr200]

Got a link to the puknebeigle copy?

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/electric-quartz-nail-quartz-enail-for-smoking/230298136.html

 

[A1FBG]

I have the rdk200 and have ordered a 20mm coil from hyman quartz. Messaged them first and they messaged back that their coils had the same wiring configuration as the rdk200. I doubt the wiring is different between the 200 and 300 so they should be compatible.

If you are looking to save some money for now I would suggest getting a 16mm or 20mm coil instead of the flat one and getting one of hyman quartz's pukinbeagle nail copies and carb cap. That is what I use with my rdk-200 and I can go 600 degrees or lower. The taste is great too. Also one of the best features is that inner downstem keeps joints clean and allows reclaim to neatly drip into your drop down.

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/electric-quartz-nail-quartz-enail-for-smoking/230298136.html
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/quartz-carb-cap-of-size-16mm-fit-for-20mm/232150173.html

Is there any issue with large size dabs (say up to a gram) being too much for that style quartz nail? I want to purchase the SiC Dish because of the super large surface area, but if the quartz can keep up then i might just save myself a few hundred dollars and go with it instead

 

[BoogerMan]

Is there any issue with large size dabs (say up to a gram) being too much for that style quartz nail? I want to purchase the SiC Dish because of the super large surface area, but if the quartz can keep up then i might just save myself a few hundred dollars and go with it instead

Yes there will be. I have that nail and you can only take small dabs (0.1g max unless you snake it out very long and skinny) because the gap between the center post and outer wall is small.

I'm actually using that nail right now. It works well, especially at lower temps. I was hitting it at 550F the other day

I think Quartz bangers, the omni nail, and the happy daddy genesis nail can handle some of the larger dabs from what I've seen.

 

[Dr200]

Yes there will be. I have that nail and you can only take small dabs (0.1g max unless you snake it out very long and skinny) because the gap between the center post and outer wall is small.

Ah that's why I remember not getting it. Its been a while since I played with my infinity nail with the hole in the center.

If you plan on doing 1G dabs I would get the 20mm banger. Its easy to get in huge globs. At least for a cheap nail option
http://www.dhgate.com/product/hot-s...s/231231858.html#myaccount_orderdetail-1-null

 

[weenstoned]

@BoogerMan do you have the 16mm or the 20mm? I have the 20mm and it looks a bit bigger than your pic. But ya I rarely dab very big @A1FBG so this nail may not be for you. It could maybe hold 1 gram melted down but getting it all in there would take some careful maneuvering.

 

[A1FBG]

Ah that's why I remember not getting it. Its been a while since I played with my infinity nail with the hole in the center.

If you plan on doing 1G dabs I would get the 20mm banger. Its easy to get in huge globs. At least for a cheap nail option
http://www.dhgate.com/product/hot-s...s/231231858.html#myaccount_orderdetail-1-null

Thanks guys for the useful info on the larger sized dabs as that is important option for me

That banger could be a good choice. I like the flat top banger option for carb caps. Plus yeah you can't beat the price. Defiantly makes me reconsider that pricey SiC Dish

 

[Dr200]

Has anyone made a battery powered enail unit for them self or purchased a pre made one? Or any reviews online at least? I can't find much info on them.

Edit: Something like this http://www.newvape.com/2723/

 

[BoogerMan]

@BoogerMan do you have the 16mm or the 20mm? I have the 20mm and it looks a bit bigger than your pic. But ya I rarely dab very big @A1FBG so this nail may not be for you. It could maybe hold 1 gram melted down but getting it all in there would take some careful maneuvering.

Mines a 20mm. The nail is more like 19mm though because my coil sits a tiny bit lose. Still works great though

 

[weenstoned]

Ya mine is also a bit loose, still works great

 

[Monsoon]

Has anyone made a battery powered enail unit for them self or purchased a pre made one? Or any reviews online at least? I can't find much info on them.

Edit: Something like this http://www.newvape.com/2723/

The New-Vape one actually needs to be plugged in. Right now probably the best option would be HashCastle, their Battery Nail has the batteries built in while their Micro can run off of a battery pack. Prices seem to be a bit high for what you get though. On the cheap side there's the Auber RDK-150-DC but they leave it up to you to find a suitable battery.

 

[Monsoon]

Silika finally released their Side-Arm banger e-nail and it looks pretty cool. I was dead set on getting it last April, but I think I'll hold off for now since I'm loving the SiC Dish with Sapphire insert too much right now. Anyway the new design looks like an improvement and the coil should be adjustable along the shaft of the bucket depending on preference.

http://420titanium.com/collections/...roducts/silika-sidearm-titanium-e-nail-insert

 

[herbivore21]

Silika finally released their Side-Arm banger e-nail and it looks pretty cool. I was dead set on getting it last April, but I think I'll hold off for now since I'm loving the SiC Dish with Sapphire insert too much right now. Anyway the new design looks like an improvement and the coil should be adjustable along the shaft of the bucket depending on preference.

http://420titanium.com/collections/...roducts/silika-sidearm-titanium-e-nail-insert

I agree, looks interesting but I can't envisage anybody buying anything made of titanium or quartz again after tasting SiC and sapphire, and if may not be somebody, but I sure am anybody! SiC has seriously taken dabbing so far beyond vaping in terms of ease of use, flavor and clouds for me. I go most days without using mmj in any other way but dabbing now because the taste is just so much better than the Mighty, Vapman or Nano that I have at my disposal!

With my beautiful new worked dab rig, it sure is more of a treat to take my meds than ever before!

You guys should all try SiC and the sapphire insert if you get the opportunity, it really is unequivocally better than ti, ceramic or quartz. SiC and Sapphire are the next generation materials that this thread was made to discuss!

I know I rave about these so much, but those of you who know me well know that I take dabbing seriously and that I haven't stopped exclaiming how much better the entire dabbing experience is using these materials. Sapphire as a conductive surface on the Infiniti was a glimpse of the next level of flavor - which has now arrived in earnest.

I wonder which materials will be the next generation after this?

 

[alittledabwilldoya']

^^^ excellent.


It sounds as if my questions may be pointless, but:

I am a dabbing noob.
Currently use a nectar collector, but have a nice recycler on the way and may want to move away from butane.

I will likely be picking up an e/dnail soon and SiC + Sapphire sounds quite pleasant.

What are the best options for nails?
My very limited research leans toward:

SiC w/ Sapphire as discussed in this thread.
HappyDaddy Genesis with Quartz insert looks trick: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-system/
Micro Genesis looks nice too (my rig is a 10mm; although dropdown is also in the works):http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-micro/
Looks nice for torching: http://www.quartzcastle.net/#!price-list/c24pk
Pretty carb cap/dabber: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/ebosstm-xl-quartz-nail-carb-cap-dabber
Super expensive pukinbeagle quartz enail?

Anyway, I appreciate any insights or advice the collective may have.



But it sounds like SiC + Sapphire might be the winner.

 

[mixchu69]

^^^ excellent.


It sounds as if my questions may be pointless, but:

I am a dabbing noob.
Currently use a nectar collector, but have a nice recycler on the way and may want to move away from butane.

I will likely be picking up an e/dnail soon and SiC + Sapphire sounds quite pleasant.

What are the best options for nails?
My very limited research leans toward:

SiC w/ Sapphire as discussed in this thread.
HappyDaddy Genesis with Quartz insert looks trick: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-system/
Micro Genesis looks nice too (my rig is a 10mm; although dropdown is also in the works):http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-micro/
Looks nice for torching: http://www.quartzcastle.net/#!price-list/c24pk
Pretty carb cap/dabber: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/ebosstm-xl-quartz-nail-carb-cap-dabber
Super expensive pukinbeagle quartz enail?

Anyway, I appreciate any insights or advice the collective may have.



But it sounds like SiC + Sapphire might be the winner.

I bought the dabfarm eboss and it broke on me in a month. I currently use the pukinbeagle direct inject with no problems. But it looks like the SIC with sapphire is the way to go.

 

[anasrzi]

Been looking into these over the past few days but I'm completey new to anything enail/dnail so if you guys have any ideas or think I'm missing out on something i need to know then please tell me as I've said newbie alert. Few questions coming up.

1) Seen the 710whip mentioned a fair bit, is it worth extra money to get a digital unit or is this one pretty good for the money (money's not much of a issue)?

2) for flavour is ceramic the best? I notice the one in the 710 kit screws and unscrews depending on what glass your using it on, that standard? Temps for the best flavour would also be handy

3) do you have to clean the ceramic nails and if so how (iso)?

4) if opting for a digital kit any good suggestions, I live in the UK so right now I've only seen two digital ones available one by gimido the other by waxy, any difference apart from price? Links beneath.

https://www.vapefiend.co.uk/gimido-e-nail.html

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Waxy-Dab-Nail-Dnail-Enail/dp/B00Y1EIAD0

Both of these units have titanium or Quartz as heating elements but that could be changed if ceramic is superior in flavour.

6) many Chinese enail/dnail for much cheaper, they ok or should I steer clear?

7) when using it with herb (if you do) what temps are you using to achieve vaporisation (no combustion) seen it done. When using the nails is there a point or temp where it turns to combustion? Im not sure if using a enail is similar to vaping in that way?

Apologise for all the question but it's best to know. I've looking into a Sublimator but I'm leaning more towards enail ing at present.

Any other advice or anything I've missed that I should take in to consideration please feel free to fill me in, like I say very new to this talk

Thanks guys so nice to have such a great resource

 

[kazz]

Few questions coming up.

1) Seen the 710whip mentioned a fair bit, is it worth extra money to get a digital unit or is this one pretty good for the money (money's not much of a issue)?

2) for flavour is ceramic the best? I notice the one in the 710 kit screws and unscrews depending on what glass your using it on, that standard? Temps for the best flavour would also be handy

3) do you have to clean the ceramic nails and if so how (iso)?

I've owned the 710 whip for a few weeks now. But that is the only one I've used, so I can only answer regarding it.

1. I have the analog unit, and have no complaints at all regarding it. I do not regret the purchase at all.

2. I do like the ceramic nail (very easy to use with the ceramic carb cap) But, I don't personally feel that the flavor is better or worse than when using a quartz banger and torch.

3. Yes, the nail will gunk up depending on your concentrate quality. I just disassemble mine, soak it in PBW and scrape off any little bits that are left behind.

Good luck with your decision!

 

[Silver420Surfer]

Does anybody remember which company stole H.E.'s design concept for their enail? The guy at H.E. was working with a guy who ended up stealing his design concept. I remember it was discussed here before, I just can't seem to find the info in the forums anymore.

Any help is appreciated!

 

[Been Vapin]

Does anybody remember which company stole H.E.'s design concept for their enail? The guy at H.E. was working with a guy who ended up stealing his design concept. I remember it was discussed here before, I just can't seem to find the info in the forums anymore.

Any help is appreciated!

SmartDab also the guy did something shady with Vapexhale, I think.

 

[Silver420Surfer]

Thanks @Been Vapin!!

 

[Monsoon]

Does anybody remember which company stole H.E.'s design concept for their enail? The guy at H.E. was working with a guy who ended up stealing his design concept. I remember it was discussed here before, I just can't seem to find the info in the forums anymore.

Any help is appreciated!

The company name is DabJoy, if you check out this search result there's a ton of hits for you to parse through including HE's official story.

 

[Silver420Surfer]

@Monsoon -- Thank you very much!

 

[Enchantre]

Progress report on the 710Whip.

I'm leaving it on 24/7 now. Pretty consistent results. I did have to do a deep cleaning on the carb cap... and when I'm using crumble or wax, I lift the lid and dump in, then replace. Keeps the little dab hole from getting all clogged up. As near as I can tell, with the heater nut snugged up as much as I'm comfy with, I'm getting almost 675F on max. I run it about a quarter back from max. I have the older, plain black controller... not even as much help as the ENano's! ... but, it's working great.

I'm expecting to find my cat working it some morning....

 

[alittledabwilldoya']

this is a duplicate post, but might get better traction in this thread (apologies for redundancy):

I just switched to all concentrate; haven't purchased flower in ~ month.
Bought a nice oil rig, as pictured above.
And have been doing online "research" re: nails, heaters, carb caps and what not.

One basic question that I saw posed in the Errlectric thread drew my interest: can the heating unit itself affect the flavor of a hit?
It seems to me that it should only be influenced by temperature.
I can definitely see that different controllers could have different safety precautions / longevity / warranty issues.


With regard to an enail setup how does this look?:

This control box: http://www.e-nail710hotbox.com/new-page-1

I like the heat control via knob vs buttons, overall size of the unit, and the way it looks.
Looks like it's a dressed up version of the Auber 2.0?

This heater coil: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/errlectric/products/errlectric-domeless-titanium-nail-heater-coil

The bent neck looks like a good idea; my oil rig is small and delicate.
I like the insulation on the cord; looks clean (could have flexibility issues).



Nails are a tougher nut to crack:

1) SiC dish + Sapphire insert: http://www.d-nail.com/nails/highly-educated-infiniti-with-sapphire
(But with a different nail; the HE Infiniti loses heat too quickly?)

2a) Happy Daddy Genesis with quartz insert: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-system/
Looks like a trick design.

2b) HD Genesis Micro: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-micro/
Looks great for 10mm rigs; smaller and lighter, might obviate the need for a dropdown?
But are the internals the same as the bigger Genesis?
Can a quartz insert be fitted in the Micro?

3a) e-Boss Quartz: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/ebosstm-xl-quartz-nail-carb-cap-dabber
Pretty, very pretty.

3b) Errlectric Quartz: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/errlectric/products/errlectric-full-quartz-nail-heater-kit
This looks well thought out with the outer titanium cup to distribute the heat evenly in the quartz banger.
This is the heater that I'm after too.
But would the "torus crater" design of the e-Boss quartz nail overcome the deficiency of uneven heat distribution that may be inherent in the banger design?

4) Full Errlectric / Cannoussier: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/shop/products/cannoisseur-x-errlectric-concentration-station
I like the look better than stock Errlectric (but no knob for temp control).
It has the heater that I'm after.
I could probably buy the unit w/o a nail (or buy the quartz insert that fits the Errlectric nails).

5) No enail. Quartz and torch: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/c2-daisy-nail-carb-cap-combo-set
Muuuuch cheaper and I have a shit ton of butane.
Plus it looks like a nice design.



I currently enjoy a Honey Straw/Nectar Collector type unit to imbibe the concentrates and I like the nuetral flavor of the quartz tip.

No enail would be much cheaper, but my ultimate goal is too increase to efficacy of smaller doses of concentrate (thus saving $), and it sounds like controllable temperature is the key to that end.

I however, am uneducated in this field and am not married to any of the aforementioned choices, so would appreciate insights from those more seasoned in the arena of dabbing.

 

[jds32]

this is a duplicate post, but might get better traction in this thread (apologies for redundancy):

I just switched to all concentrate; haven't purchased flower in ~ month.
Bought a nice oil rig, as pictured above.
And have been doing online "research" re: nails, heaters, carb caps and what not.

One basic question that I saw posed in the Errlectric thread drew my interest: can the heating unit itself affect the flavor of a hit?
It seems to me that it should only be influenced by temperature.
I can definitely see that different controllers could have different safety precautions / longevity / warranty issues.


With regard to an enail setup how does this look?:

This control box: http://www.e-nail710hotbox.com/new-page-1

I like the heat control via knob vs buttons, overall size of the unit, and the way it looks.
Looks like it's a dressed up version of the Auber 2.0?

This heater coil: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/errlectric/products/errlectric-domeless-titanium-nail-heater-coil

The bent neck looks like a good idea; my oil rig is small and delicate.
I like the insulation on the cord; looks clean (could have flexibility issues).



Nails are a tougher nut to crack:

1) SiC dish + Sapphire insert: http://www.d-nail.com/nails/highly-educated-infiniti-with-sapphire
(But with a different nail; the HE Infiniti loses heat too quickly?)

2a) Happy Daddy Genesis with quartz insert: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-system/
Looks like a trick design.

2b) HD Genesis Micro: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-micro/
Looks great for 10mm rigs; smaller and lighter, might obviate the need for a dropdown?
But are the internals the same as the bigger Genesis?
Can a quartz insert be fitted in the Micro?

3a) e-Boss Quartz: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/ebosstm-xl-quartz-nail-carb-cap-dabber
Pretty, very pretty.

3b) Errlectric Quartz: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/errlectric/products/errlectric-full-quartz-nail-heater-kit
This looks well thought out with the outer titanium cup to distribute the heat evenly in the quartz banger.
This is the heater that I'm after too.
But would the "torus crater" design of the e-Boss quartz nail overcome the deficiency of uneven heat distribution that may be inherent in the banger design?

4) Full Errlectric / Cannoussier: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/shop/products/cannoisseur-x-errlectric-concentration-station
I like the look better than stock Errlectric (but no knob for temp control).
It has the heater that I'm after.
I could probably buy the unit w/o a nail (or buy the quartz insert that fits the Errlectric nails).

5) No enail. Quartz and torch: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/c2-daisy-nail-carb-cap-combo-set
Muuuuch cheaper and I have a shit ton of butane.
Plus it looks like a nice design.



I currently enjoy a Honey Straw/Nectar Collector type unit to imbibe the concentrates and I like the nuetral flavor of the quartz tip.

No enail would be much cheaper, but my ultimate goal is too increase to efficacy of smaller doses of concentrate (thus saving $), and it sounds like controllable temperature is the key to that end.

I however, am uneducated in this field and am not married to any of the aforementioned choices, so would appreciate insights from those more seasoned in the arena of dabbing.

Here's another option, for $135 total, with shipping and tax:
1. Auber rdk-200, $70, http://www.auberins.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=45&products_id=459
2. 20mm coil, $33, http://www.dhgate.com/product/factory-price-high-quality-enail-coil-heater/229811963.html
3. Quartz nail, $15, http://www.dhgate.com/product/electric-quartz-nail-quartz-enail-for-smoking/230298136.html
4. Glass carb cap, $17, http://www.dhgate.com/product/quartz-carb-cap-of-size-16mm-fit-for-20mm/232150173.html

Just an option.

 

[Monsoon]

this is a duplicate post, but might get better traction in this thread (apologies for redundancy):

I just switched to all concentrate; haven't purchased flower in ~ month.
Bought a nice oil rig, as pictured above.
And have been doing online "research" re: nails, heaters, carb caps and what not.

One basic question that I saw posed in the Errlectric thread drew my interest: can the heating unit itself affect the flavor of a hit?
It seems to me that it should only be influenced by temperature.
I can definitely see that different controllers could have different safety precautions / longevity / warranty issues.


With regard to an enail setup how does this look?:

This control box: http://www.e-nail710hotbox.com/new-page-1

I like the heat control via knob vs buttons, overall size of the unit, and the way it looks.
Looks like it's a dressed up version of the Auber 2.0?

This heater coil: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/errlectric/products/errlectric-domeless-titanium-nail-heater-coil

The bent neck looks like a good idea; my oil rig is small and delicate.
I like the insulation on the cord; looks clean (could have flexibility issues).



Nails are a tougher nut to crack:

1) SiC dish + Sapphire insert: http://www.d-nail.com/nails/highly-educated-infiniti-with-sapphire
(But with a different nail; the HE Infiniti loses heat too quickly?)

2a) Happy Daddy Genesis with quartz insert: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-system/
Looks like a trick design.

2b) HD Genesis Micro: http://www.happydaddyproducts.net/product/genesis-micro/
Looks great for 10mm rigs; smaller and lighter, might obviate the need for a dropdown?
But are the internals the same as the bigger Genesis?
Can a quartz insert be fitted in the Micro?

3a) e-Boss Quartz: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/ebosstm-xl-quartz-nail-carb-cap-dabber
Pretty, very pretty.

3b) Errlectric Quartz: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/errlectric/products/errlectric-full-quartz-nail-heater-kit
This looks well thought out with the outer titanium cup to distribute the heat evenly in the quartz banger.
This is the heater that I'm after too.
But would the "torus crater" design of the e-Boss quartz nail overcome the deficiency of uneven heat distribution that may be inherent in the banger design?

4) Full Errlectric / Cannoussier: http://cannoisseur.com/collections/shop/products/cannoisseur-x-errlectric-concentration-station
I like the look better than stock Errlectric (but no knob for temp control).
It has the heater that I'm after.
I could probably buy the unit w/o a nail (or buy the quartz insert that fits the Errlectric nails).

5) No enail. Quartz and torch: http://dabfarm.bigcartel.com/product/c2-daisy-nail-carb-cap-combo-set
Muuuuch cheaper and I have a shit ton of butane.
Plus it looks like a nice design.



I currently enjoy a Honey Straw/Nectar Collector type unit to imbibe the concentrates and I like the nuetral flavor of the quartz tip.

No enail would be much cheaper, but my ultimate goal is too increase to efficacy of smaller doses of concentrate (thus saving $), and it sounds like controllable temperature is the key to that end.

I however, am uneducated in this field and am not married to any of the aforementioned choices, so would appreciate insights from those more seasoned in the arena of dabbing.

Just to clarify your options, the Errlectric/Cannoisseur is a closed eco-system which means the unit and accessories were made to be used together and aren't really intended for use with other companies' products. Their heater coils are fused to the nails so it doesn't support third party nails and run at a higher wattage than most other e-nail units. You may be able to get their coils to work with the Auber/Hotbox or a standard coil and third party nail to work with the Errlectric but you'll need to do some research and it probably isn't worth the cost. Errlectric warranty is nixed if you use third party products too I believe. So your choice is actually an "e-nail" and an Errlectric.

The SiC Dish and HE Infiniti are different nails, however the SiC can however be mounted on top of an Infiniti base. Whether you use that base or the D-Nail v1.3, heat loss differences shouldn't be a concern. The sapphire insert can be used with either the SiC Dish or with the nail that comes with the Infiniti.