Nausea: The Monster
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Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
t-dub, man that sucks! Glad to see you got some attention, that stuff can go south really quickly.
Tweek/Enchantre, sorry to hear, my stomach has really been acting up today too. I got some hash candies that are actually working very well, eating one here and there. The SSH I have right now is doing something nice for it, as well.
Thanks for the support, everyone. I've got to wait a month and see what happens. Hopefully I get better, else it's the swallowing test xray thing and if that's no good either, then I'm getting the camera down the throat More lab work to get done in April, too.
Tweek/Enchantre, sorry to hear, my stomach has really been acting up today too. I got some hash candies that are actually working very well, eating one here and there. The SSH I have right now is doing something nice for it, as well.
Thanks for the support, everyone. I've got to wait a month and see what happens. Hopefully I get better, else it's the swallowing test xray thing and if that's no good either, then I'm getting the camera down the throat More lab work to get done in April, too.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
Quetz....
The SSH is good for me too.
The candies also are a HUGE help.
The edibles really help my nausea too, but they really knock me on my ass sometimes. They always make me very tired too. I'm eating small portions too. I guess my tolerance is low when it comes to edibles.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Are those butterscotch chewy candies? Sounds delicious 
I've got my DART loaded up with some of that Blue Dream right now just in case, but today's off to a good start.
I've got my DART loaded up with some of that Blue Dream right now just in case, but today's off to a good start.
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
I've been wanting to get that recipe from Vito for a long, long time....
Hey Vito, how about posting it in the Cooking section?
I know many here could benefit from it's stomach soothing effects. 
Hey Vito, how about posting it in the Cooking section?
I know many here could benefit from it's stomach soothing effects. 
Vitolo
Vaporist
The unwrapped one was a butterscotch chew.
The wrapped one was Karmic Karamels.
As for a recipe.....
I will post a basic one. Patty after doing this almost a hundred times has secrets she uses beyond this, but she ain't talkin'
Sorry Mom... I do not even know where the cooking section is... and to post there means to watch for responses there to answer questions... and this Vaporist is not "watching" or posting in yet another thread.
Karmic Karamels
ingredients
*1 cup butter**
*1 16 ounce package (2-1/4 cups packed) brown sugar
*1 14 ounce can (1-1/4 cups) sweetened condensed milk
*1 cup light-colored corn syrup
*1 teaspoon vanilla
**Important note about the "1 cup of butter"
this should be a pound of butter that has been cooked with an ounce of meds. The resultant butter should then be clarified to half its volume, giving you 1 cup of butter to work with
directions
1.
Butter a 9x9x2-inch glass baking pan; set pan aside.
2.
In a heavy 3-quart saucepan melt the 1 cup butter over low heat. Add brown sugar, sweetened condensed milk, and light corn syrup; mix well. Carefully clip candy thermometer to side of pan.
3.
Cook over medium heat, stirring frequently, until thermometer registers 248 degree F, firm-ball state. Mixture should boil at a moderate, steady rate over the entire surface. Reaching firm-ball stage should take 15 to 20 minutes.
4.
Remove saucepan from heat; remove candy thermometer from saucepan. Immediately stir in vanilla. Quickly pour the caramel mixture into prepared baking pan. When caramel is firm, use butterknives to pry it out of pan. Use a very sharp knife to cut candy into 1/2-inch squares. Wrap each piece in clear plastic wrap.
Makes about 120 - 150 pieces.
Dosage varies.. 3-4 pieces is good for me.
The wrapped one was Karmic Karamels.
As for a recipe.....
I will post a basic one. Patty after doing this almost a hundred times has secrets she uses beyond this, but she ain't talkin'
Sorry Mom... I do not even know where the cooking section is... and to post there means to watch for responses there to answer questions... and this Vaporist is not "watching" or posting in yet another thread.
Karmic Karamels
ingredients
*1 cup butter**
*1 16 ounce package (2-1/4 cups packed) brown sugar
*1 14 ounce can (1-1/4 cups) sweetened condensed milk
*1 cup light-colored corn syrup
*1 teaspoon vanilla
**Important note about the "1 cup of butter"
this should be a pound of butter that has been cooked with an ounce of meds. The resultant butter should then be clarified to half its volume, giving you 1 cup of butter to work with
directions
1.
Butter a 9x9x2-inch glass baking pan; set pan aside.
2.
In a heavy 3-quart saucepan melt the 1 cup butter over low heat. Add brown sugar, sweetened condensed milk, and light corn syrup; mix well. Carefully clip candy thermometer to side of pan.
3.
Cook over medium heat, stirring frequently, until thermometer registers 248 degree F, firm-ball state. Mixture should boil at a moderate, steady rate over the entire surface. Reaching firm-ball stage should take 15 to 20 minutes.
4.
Remove saucepan from heat; remove candy thermometer from saucepan. Immediately stir in vanilla. Quickly pour the caramel mixture into prepared baking pan. When caramel is firm, use butterknives to pry it out of pan. Use a very sharp knife to cut candy into 1/2-inch squares. Wrap each piece in clear plastic wrap.
Makes about 120 - 150 pieces.
Dosage varies.. 3-4 pieces is good for me.
kelper
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I truly believe cannabis itself can cause stomach and intestinal problems for some people if used in large quantities. Kurt Cobain blamed cannabis for wrecking his stomach and that is why he turned to opium.
Personally I think these problems can be alleviated for many by change of diet. Cannabis use can cause a quickening of the nervous system and some foods can become indigestible when this happens. I cut out most dairy products and it made a world of difference.
Also, allergists will tell you that many allergies are caused by overindulgence in a substance to the point that the body rejects it - this applies to food and drugs. It can be like a drip in a cave slowly carving out a pit - the same thing over and over can wear you down.
As the wise man Art Kunkin advises when asked his opinion on drugs: If you're a user, stop. If not, start. A bit tongue in cheek, but there is truth there too for many people.
The best thing to do when trying to track down the cause of a medical problem is to change your habits one by one and study the effects over at least a month. The worst thing to do is to keep hitting your head with a hammer and wonder why you always have a headache.
Personally I think these problems can be alleviated for many by change of diet. Cannabis use can cause a quickening of the nervous system and some foods can become indigestible when this happens. I cut out most dairy products and it made a world of difference.
Also, allergists will tell you that many allergies are caused by overindulgence in a substance to the point that the body rejects it - this applies to food and drugs. It can be like a drip in a cave slowly carving out a pit - the same thing over and over can wear you down.
As the wise man Art Kunkin advises when asked his opinion on drugs: If you're a user, stop. If not, start. A bit tongue in cheek, but there is truth there too for many people.
The best thing to do when trying to track down the cause of a medical problem is to change your habits one by one and study the effects over at least a month. The worst thing to do is to keep hitting your head with a hammer and wonder why you always have a headache.
kingofnull
ace
Welp my nausea has been particularly bad these past few days. All I can say is thank goodness for vaping.
kelper
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I sometimes make the mistake of chiming in before at least reading the first post of a thread. After going back and reading the first post here, I feel the tone of my earlier post is insensitive in context. I like to give the other side of the argument to help complete a picture, but not to trample on hallowed ground, and I know this subject is for many people.
For the sake of balance and respect, I will add that I think marijuana is a gift from God and has benefited me beyond words, and obviously also many posters on this thread in ways that I don't even want to imagine (I am especially moved by Vitolo's testament). I believe in medical marijuana legalization for those in need, and decriminalization for the rest of us (perhaps also in need spiritually, but also often just in it for the thrills).
I wish it had been available to my late mother in her time of deep need. And it makes me very sad that I had it available to myself during that time, but could never have offered it to her due to her cultural conditioning and anger towards it (for other reasons I won't go into - some justified - this was a long time ago anyway).
Like everything in creation, I believe marijuana is two-sided and not a panacea for all people at all times (although I'll do just about anything to stay on her good side). I know from personal experience that it sometimes changes from being a benevolent mother to a cruel mistress, and when that happens my life experience needs to shift somewhere else for awhile. But for those clinging to her for salvation from pain and suffering, forget everything I said and just hear the silence between the words (the profound part).
For the sake of balance and respect, I will add that I think marijuana is a gift from God and has benefited me beyond words, and obviously also many posters on this thread in ways that I don't even want to imagine (I am especially moved by Vitolo's testament). I believe in medical marijuana legalization for those in need, and decriminalization for the rest of us (perhaps also in need spiritually, but also often just in it for the thrills).
I wish it had been available to my late mother in her time of deep need. And it makes me very sad that I had it available to myself during that time, but could never have offered it to her due to her cultural conditioning and anger towards it (for other reasons I won't go into - some justified - this was a long time ago anyway).
Like everything in creation, I believe marijuana is two-sided and not a panacea for all people at all times (although I'll do just about anything to stay on her good side). I know from personal experience that it sometimes changes from being a benevolent mother to a cruel mistress, and when that happens my life experience needs to shift somewhere else for awhile. But for those clinging to her for salvation from pain and suffering, forget everything I said and just hear the silence between the words (the profound part).
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Kelper, there is no argument here, you have wandered into an area with medical patients who are here to support one another. You will find our passions run deep, and do not completely align with "normal" healthy people. We ingest cannabis to "enable", not disable, us to do things like peel ourselves off the toilet, get out of bed, or manage our pain so that we may tolerate daily existence. Any healthy person that uses a drug for recreational purposes is going to have some effect from that. So I'm not surprised to see chronic usage in healthy adults causing problems, it would with any substance. That being said, cannabis is the safest recreational drug in existence. Some people have had problems with ingesting too many cannabiniods, however I suspect this revolves around the heavy use of oils and other solvent based concentrates, they are unnatural imho.
http://iacapap.org/wp-content/uploads/G.2-CANNABIS-072012.pdf
kelper
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I don't think everyone in this thread is in the non-recreational category, but point taken. My comments are directed towards idiots like me who overindulge sometimes and pay the price. Also, some medical users might be helped by knowing about possible side-effects.
Enchantre
Oil Painter
My husband, who got his MMJ card first due to residual effects from rupturing one of his disks, is quick to tell you that, while MMJ is great for his pain, he has no problem enjoying the "recreational" part of it.
I would guess that "healthy" people using it thusly might get some of the other "medical" benefits, like stress relief and reduction of inflammation.
But, of course, anything overdone can be bad.
I would guess that "healthy" people using it thusly might get some of the other "medical" benefits, like stress relief and reduction of inflammation.
But, of course, anything overdone can be bad.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
Been in the hospital since Tuesday morning. From the ER to my own bed in less than a minute. Fastest I've been admitted yet, though I'm sure my insurance and history helped me out. Underwent minor surgery then a major one Thursday. Second time this year I've ended up here. Probably 5th or 6th since mid 2011 when my episodes started. Looks like I'll be here for at least another two days, more. Than likely 3-4. I want to say it's not fair, and a lot of other stuff. I am very blessed to have had two very close friends react to this. Last night they came by with sushi for myself and for them. They spent the evening here with me, in my room, connected to 3 machines, with 2 IV lines, with my shitty attitude, and had the patience to eat with me. We watched a hockey game on tv and planned an activity to do as a group every month until the end of the year. We will go hiking next month, then a small road trip somewhere, casinos, a concert, camping, celebrating our birthdays in various areas.
I told them both a hundred times how much I appreciated them but I know they don't really understand. No one except people who are in this kind of situation, understand the kind of gratitude I feel toward sthem. All of my real life "friends" hah. I can count the ones that contacted me on one hand."Friends" telling me to call them. Yeah right. I'm busy half-dead here and people want me to call them to find out how I am. They waste more time telling me to call THEM than just them calling me. Forget them. I know who really cares. I know who called ME the second they heard that I left school to go to the hospital, I know who texted me to let me know they would be over as soon as they were off work. I know who brought me food and the flowers, my mom told me who called my phone while I was under the knife. The people that I spoke to when I was nodding out from all the painkillers in my blood post-op. She told me about which coworker came to visit me (she came via public transport, with her kid no less) a mere hour after I was admitted. I know where to go when I have problems now. Four people total, out of so many. They're my real best friends.
I had a few people from FC send me touching messages. You know who you are. Thank you too, for the kind words in such unkind times.
I told them both a hundred times how much I appreciated them but I know they don't really understand. No one except people who are in this kind of situation, understand the kind of gratitude I feel toward sthem. All of my real life "friends" hah. I can count the ones that contacted me on one hand."Friends" telling me to call them. Yeah right. I'm busy half-dead here and people want me to call them to find out how I am. They waste more time telling me to call THEM than just them calling me. Forget them. I know who really cares. I know who called ME the second they heard that I left school to go to the hospital, I know who texted me to let me know they would be over as soon as they were off work. I know who brought me food and the flowers, my mom told me who called my phone while I was under the knife. The people that I spoke to when I was nodding out from all the painkillers in my blood post-op. She told me about which coworker came to visit me (she came via public transport, with her kid no less) a mere hour after I was admitted. I know where to go when I have problems now. Four people total, out of so many. They're my real best friends.
I had a few people from FC send me touching messages. You know who you are. Thank you too, for the kind words in such unkind times.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I'm sorry you had to be in the hospital. I hate the hospital myself. I'll keep you in my prayers!!!!
Vitolo
Vaporist
Quetzal-
Love to you, man.
When a number of years have gone by, you will understand better than you do now the nature of transience in relationships....
I spent my life with people around me....
The closest of them I considered "associates'.
When I woke from my coma, and became aware of my surroundings..... it was revealing to me to learn that it was months later, but that I had not been searched for.
People assumed I stopped working, and left town.
Nobody looked for me.
After 2 years in a rehab hospital when I got home.. I saw that life moves on and when one is out of sight he is out of mind.
We are your friends here Quetz.....
The friends that did not meet your expectations, are your friends by proximity, and forced exposure through the circles you focus on......
here we bump into one another by choice.. and we have to consciously log in to do so.
What saddens me here, besides the fact that you felt poorly and suffered medical treatment is that you were taken by surprise and disappointed.
Feel well buddy~
Love to you, man.
When a number of years have gone by, you will understand better than you do now the nature of transience in relationships....
I spent my life with people around me....
The closest of them I considered "associates'.
When I woke from my coma, and became aware of my surroundings..... it was revealing to me to learn that it was months later, but that I had not been searched for.
People assumed I stopped working, and left town.
Nobody looked for me.
After 2 years in a rehab hospital when I got home.. I saw that life moves on and when one is out of sight he is out of mind.
We are your friends here Quetz.....
The friends that did not meet your expectations, are your friends by proximity, and forced exposure through the circles you focus on......
here we bump into one another by choice.. and we have to consciously log in to do so.
What saddens me here, besides the fact that you felt poorly and suffered medical treatment is that you were taken by surprise and disappointed.
Feel well buddy~
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
Astute as always Vito.
I have learned that if you have one true friend in life you are rich. To have more than that is not only a gift, but unusual. It sounds to me as if you are surrounded by good friends; you have two close friends there, and many here.
I hope you feel much better soon.
I have learned that if you have one true friend in life you are rich. To have more than that is not only a gift, but unusual. It sounds to me as if you are surrounded by good friends; you have two close friends there, and many here.
I hope you feel much better soon.
Quetzalcoatl
DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I'm home now, finally.
Vito, thank you for the eternal wisdom. I reflected on your post as well as mom's and you guys are right. What happened to me sucks but I really need to rethink who I call a friend and who is just an acquaintance. I'm not upset but it was a real eye-opener. To say their presence (as well as the kind words from FC members) lifted some of the weight off my shoulders is a huge understatement.
If having one real friend makes me rich, I feel like I won the lottery. We're going to be hanging out again some time this week and I know I'll cherish it so much more than I did before.
Thanks for listening
Vito, thank you for the eternal wisdom. I reflected on your post as well as mom's and you guys are right. What happened to me sucks but I really need to rethink who I call a friend and who is just an acquaintance. I'm not upset but it was a real eye-opener. To say their presence (as well as the kind words from FC members) lifted some of the weight off my shoulders is a huge understatement.
If having one real friend makes me rich, I feel like I won the lottery. We're going to be hanging out again some time this week and I know I'll cherish it so much more than I did before.
Thanks for listening
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I'm home now, finally.
Vito, thank you for the eternal wisdom. I reflected on your post as well as mom's and you guys are right. What happened to me sucks but I really need to rethink who I call a friend and who is just an acquaintance. I'm not upset but it was a real eye-opener. To say their presence (as well as the kind words from FC members) lifted some of the weight off my shoulders is a huge understatement.
If having one real friend makes me rich, I feel like I won the lottery. We're going to be hanging out again some time this week and I know I'll cherish it so much more than I did before.
Thanks for listening
I'm glad you are out of the hospital!!!
kingofnull
ace
Hope everyone is doing well. Unfortunately the past few days have not been good for me. Thank the gods for log vapes that stay on 24/7 - woke this morning and just started dry heaving. A few quick E-nano drags brought me to a manageable level, a few more and I was well enough to come here and talk about it
Gut is still rippling under the surface, but I'll make it through the day.
Gut is still rippling under the surface, but I'll make it through the day.
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