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DMPesso

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SlinginPaint said:
Stereo Matrix = more diffusion and LESS flavor (large size and lots of diffusion)
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Yea but the large size is better for a big hit. U can only take so big of a hit in a smaller piece before it gets too harsh, as I said before flavor isn't nearly as important to as potency
Frederick McGuire said:
It's not even that I don't like the chug, it's just that the stereo didn't speak to me the same way the clear does...

I'm pretty sure the clear would have the largest internal volume.
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I already have a sheldon black showerhead bubbler btw so I want something I can take bigger smooth hits with. I feel like the matrix clear is more similar to what I already have and I can get bigger hits with the stereo matrix no?
 
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TBTD

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This thread has been quiet for quite a while!

I am pleased to say that I will be joining the ranks of Mobius owners here at FC. I have been eyeing the Nuc for sometime now and I finally decided to order it today, it should arrive late next week. The combination of the smaller can/pec sounds like it will be perfect for vapor!

I can't wait to pair this thing with my crafty. :rofl:
 
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MinnBobber

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Mrmrmrmr said:
My only wish is they design a perc with less points of diffusion. That was the only reason I sold my Ion,it cut so much of the taste.
Such great craftsmanship... :drool:
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I love my Ion too. I've been experimenting with more minimal water levels. I would, however love a Mobius with a minimal diffusion perc. I found more flavor when I used hot water.

I just got a Hydraline HT which has minimal diffusion and really like it EXCEPT a much prefer a bubbler with mouthpiece off the side and NOT the bong style/straight glass tube.
 
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TBTD

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Does anyone have experience with the Nuc? I am wondering if the smaller Matrix perc will lead to an appreciable increase in flavor when compared to the Ion Reti or Matrix.

I'll be sure to post my own thoughts as I get back to the states.
 
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Mrmrmrmr

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steama said:
I agree. That is why the Reti makes a top-shelf water piece for vapes. Less diffusion = more flavor and more vapor. :peace:
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But doesn't the reti have just a few less points of diffusion?like stu said I would think (as I have never tried the reti)it would be a subtle increase in flavor
 
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Stu

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My Reti is the older, original version. I do like the look of the new perc though. :luv:

Here is mine (click to zoom in on perc):
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Mrmrmrmr

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@steama do you mainly use the reti when you vape ?if the flavor isn't being robbed too much,I would consider getting one. Oh to own a möbius again :D
 
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masaki

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I'm considering the minibeak from mobius. The matrix downstem looks should have less diffusion.
 
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TBTD

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Well my Nuc came today and I have to say I am impressed. It hits quite nicely and looks well constructed with a very thick base.

Here are some pictures (I apologize for the editing...but I promise they looked worse before!)


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Next to the Crafty for a size comparison.

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An up close shot of the perc.

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And the label, because that is where half my money went!
 
A1FBG

A1FBG

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i recently was told i did not understand the function of a stereo matrix but i don't understand why. The topic was on diffusion. Not drag.

I had said other tubes are more diffused than the stereo matrix. Only the top row of slits on the top matrix perc fire while milking. Then the bottom matrix perc only acts as a dry perc and therefore does not produce as good of results because of the no water contact and the smoke not being trapped in bubbles

Can someone explain to me how it actually functions then? Mainly how does that dry bottom matrix perc benefit the design?
 
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ChiefKeefe

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The bottom perc forces water into the top one which then diffuses. And when im hitting my 60t it is 100% diffusing from more then the top holes in the top perc.

It is indeed one of the smoothest single chambers ive tried..
 
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A1FBG

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ChiefKeefe said:
The bottom perc forces water into the top one which then diffuses. And when im hitting my 60t it is 100% diffusing from more then the top holes in the top perc.

It is indeed one of the smoothest single chambers ive tried..
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For a single chamber. But idk why you keep bringing that up. We arnt restricted to single chamber tubes.. We were talking about purely diffusion.. A gridded streamline to gridded circ or tree would be much more smooth than that stereo matrix man..

Theres no way your bottom rows fire.. Unless your talking about when you clear the tube which does not count..

When you say smoothest i really feel like your talking in terms of drag. Drag and diffusion are different dog.
 
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Frederick McGuire

Frederick McGuire

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A1FBG said:
For a single chamber. But idk why you keep bringing that up. We arnt restricted to single chamber tubes.. We were talking about purely diffusion.. A gridded streamline to gridded circ or tree would be much more smooth than that stereo matrix man..

Theres no way your bottom rows fire.. Unless your talking about when you clear the tube which does not count..

When you say smoothest i really feel like your talking in terms of drag. Drag and diffusion are different dog.
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Because that's kind of an irrelevant point?
A stereo matrix to gridded circ or tree would be more smooth than a gridded stemline to gridded circ or tree...
74 natural perc ash catchers in a crazy daisy chain would probably be smoother...

By comparing single chamber pieces, it is a much more apples to apples comparison, as you are then directly comparing percs...
 
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A1FBG

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Frederick McGuire said:
Because that's kind of an irrelevant point?
A stereo matrix to gridded circ or tree would be more smooth than a gridded stemline to gridded circ or tree...
74 natural perc ash catchers in a crazy daisy chain would probably be smoother...

By comparing single chamber pieces, it is a much more apples to apples comparison, as you are then directly comparing percs...
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They don't even make a stereo matrix to gridded circ/tree so thats irrelevant..

Y'all are actin like this a strictly single chamber tube discussion.

Ill say that matrix percs are the smoothest in terms of drag no doubt. But i just can't agree when speaking on diffusion.
 
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Frederick McGuire

Frederick McGuire

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A1FBG said:
They don't even make a stereo matrix to gridded circ/tree so thats irrelevant..

Y'all are actin like this a strictly single chamber tube discussion.

Ill say that matrix percs are the smoothest in terms of drag no doubt. But i just can't agree when speaking on diffusion.
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Yeah, but it could easily be made.
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Also, Note - also I used the word "would" - it's usage in that sentence is to acknowledge that such a piece does not currently exist, but if it were to exist in a hypothetical word where we are discussing hypothetical perc setups...
So telling me that a stereo to whatever doesn't exist really isn't relevant unless I'd used "is"
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We keep bringing it back to single perc tubes because that's the only logical thing to do!

If you want to talk pure diffusion, then seriously, name me absolutely any piece on the planet that you think has the most possible diffusion.
Slap an ash catcher on it, boom, that has more diffusion.
Say an inline to circ is smoother, well, an inline to circ to tree is smoother again...

It just gets non-sensical if you start taking extra chambers into account, it essentially just devolves into "what's the most chambers I can have before my lungs implode from the drag?"

In a hypothetical discussion about perc styles, and compare/contrasting them, it only makes sense to do so when thinking about single chamber pieces.

If we are leaving drag out of the equation entirely, then basically any perc can be added in an extra chamber above any other perc.
 
A1FBG

A1FBG

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Frederick McGuire said:
Yeah, but it could easily be made.
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Also, Note - also I used the word "would" - it's usage in that sentence is to acknowledge that such a piece does not currently exist, but if it were to exist in a hypothetical word where we are discussing hypothetical perc setups...
So telling me that a stereo to whatever doesn't exist really isn't relevant unless I'd used "is"
/grammar nazi edit...

We keep bringing it back to single perc tubes because that's the only logical thing to do!

If you want to talk pure diffusion, then seriously, name me absolutely any piece on the planet that you think has the most possible diffusion.
Slap an ash catcher on it, boom, that has more diffusion.
Say an inline to circ is smoother, well, an inline to circ to tree is smoother again...

It just gets non-sensical if you start taking extra chambers into account, it essentially just devolves into "what's the most chambers I can have before my lungs implode from the drag?"

In a hypothetical discussion about perc styles, and compare/contrasting them, it only makes sense to do so when thinking about single chamber pieces.

If we are leaving drag out of the equation entirely, then basically any perc can be added in an extra chamber above any other perc.
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Come on now.. what educated smoker is gonna go buy a bong with excessive percs?.. ive read multiple threads on single vs double chambers. You've never read a toro or sovereignty single vs double chamber thread?

I aint the arguing type tho so imma say fuck it. I don't even combust unless I'm rollin up fattys.

At the end of the day just go with personal preference and :chill::smug:

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ChiefKeefe

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Lol at you. When discussing flower tubes in regards to diffusion and drag people ALWAYS classify single and double chambers different. Yes when I hit my sovereignty stemline to griddome it has more diffusion then my 60t. But you also loose a lot more flavor and potency with that diffusion.

And if you dont believe that I can get the top matrix to fire on more then one set of holes want a video? Maybe you have weak lungs or are putting a restrictive vape on it?

And lmao at drag and diffusion are different dog. Yea im super new to glass bruh. Never owned a bong over 30$

And a TON of educated smokers buy pipes that have only 1 chamber, and some that have 2. Its preference and some days you like different things.

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jpdnkstr

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My semi-new Divine Tribe e-nail has a new home..... right on the end of my drop down...... that sits on my favorite piece ever....... Mobius stemless 60t Stereo Matrix Limited:rockon:(why limited?, have they ever stopped production?) anyway, sometimes I remove the drop down..... for some OG Ticker Cloud action!:p. I use my Mobius EVERYDAY:shrug:
 
Frederick McGuire

Frederick McGuire

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A1FBG said:
Come on now.. what educated smoker is gonna go buy a bong with excessive percs?.. ive read multiple threads on single vs double chambers. You've never read a toro or sovereignty single vs double chamber thread?

I aint the arguing type tho so imma say fuck it. I don't even combust unless I'm rollin up fattys.

At the end of the day just go with personal preference and :chill::smug:

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Yes, I was farcically pointing out the flaw in your argument...

On a Lets compare perc X to perc Y basis, a single chamber tube is the only way to do so logically.
That's the point I've been repeatedly trying to convey to you.

I understand multi-chamber tubes can, and often do, offer more diffusion than a single chamber tube.
Please note that I understand this.
You don't seem to think I get that, I absolutely do, but as I have tried to explain multiple times, it is irrelevant to this discussion IMO...


FFS - I've said it multiple times - I'M TALKING ABOUT COMPARING PERCS!!!

WHEN COMPARING A SPECIFIC PERC TO ANOTHER SPECIFIC PERC, IT IS ASININE TO JUST SAY "Yeah, but slap another perc on there and its smoother" WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING...

Can you please address the actual substance of what I'm saying instead of nit-picking my hyperbole?

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Seriously, It feels like this is the discussion I'm having:
A1: A gridded stemline gives more diffusion than a stereo matrix

FMG: Nope, not at all.

A1: Well you can slap a gridded circ on that stemline - NOW there's more diffusion HA.

FMG: But that doesn't address that a stereo is still more diffusion than a stemline...

A1: Don't you understand that these 2 percs are more than that 1 perc?

FMG: Sure, but if that stereo was combined with the gridded circ it would still be more diffusion again, what is the point of talking about extra chambers?

A1: Stereos don't come with extra chambers! Don't you understand that these 2 percs are more than that 1 perc?

FMG: well what if I stacked 94 ash catchers together then? They do exist, and are just as irrelevant in the discussion about the functionality of one perc over another...

A1: Who would want that many percs?
A1: Don't you understand that these 2 percs are more than that 1 perc?
A1: Don't you understand that these 2 percs are more than that 1 perc?

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