Mobius Glass
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bassplayer
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If you ever get a chance to try a Binary Matrix I definitely recommend it. I've owned a bunch of different Mobius pieces and this one is by far my favorite, it's perfect with my E-Nail (I'm sure some of that statement is 'new piece excitement' talking but I'm really impressed with it, it has a nice little chug which I didn't get in the other pieces I've owned and it's the perfect size for me.) The new Mobius line is very cool, I was lucky enough to try them all (water tests) other than the mini beaker.
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
How does the binary matrix compare to the stereo matrix?
They seem to be relatively similar in concept from looking at them
They seem to be relatively similar in concept from looking at them
bassplayer
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the binary is a matrix perc cut in half, one half at the bottom the second on the top. the 50A/50T has a thinner diameter tube and smaller percs. You have to be really carefull with either as it was easy to get splashback. The binary also has a little chug vs the zero resistance other matrix percs, I really like the chug. Talking to several people in the shop that had or have tried both they said there is less diffusion with the binary which results in more flavor. The binary also feels much beefier than the 50A/T (though all pieces are top quality)
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MinnBobber
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Thanks. Where is best place online to look at new pieces.
I have a Ion Matrix and love it.
Anything new with less diffusion, can be smaller volume, max taste?
Sounds like this binary may be it??
Atom interested me but not sure on it
bassplayer
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I think good places online are aqualabtechnologies.com and thecavesmokeshop.com. It's really best to see the pieces in person though. You might like the Trichrome with Trichrome percs - the Trichrome is available with a very small stereo matrix perc or with the 'trichrome' perc which is like a retti (lower diffusion, more flavor) and the piece is fairly small. Also both the neutron and atom are very small, though I've only seen them with Matrix percs.
The Binary is larger than the Ion - it has a 60mm can but about half the height (estimated) of the 60T.
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bassplayer
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there is a bit of restriction when you first start to draw. the 50A/T are significantly smaller than the 60T/65T and I was not able to use much water before getting splashback.
That's what I was worried about.. but I can't find a 60T anywhere. Wonder why they reduced the size in their new line.
I noticed that in almost all of the videos of the 50A, people were getting splashback. Does the binary have that problem as well or is it better with it?
bassplayer
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The binary is much different IMO, it has a 60mm can, it's basically about 1/2 the height of a 60T. It's my favorite piece. No splashback even with the water up to the level of the reinforcement weld. I used to have a 60T, I liked it well enough but I like the Binary much more.
bassplayer
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I've had both. 60T has a much taller can and IMO zero restriction - you simply breathe in normally. The binary has a bit of restriction. I guess the binary would be less diffusion because instead of having two matix percs it has one matrix perc that's been cut in half - one half is at the bottom and the other on top.
SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
Loving this combo. Just picked the Ion up from the LHS for just over 302 incl. tax. Had to!
chronickiller7
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My current glass collection includes a mobius 60t, and toro macro xl. I want another oil rig, and saw these two. Can anyone comment on them? What do you guys think?
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...bius-minibeak-vapor-rig-with-matrix-perc.html
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...mobius-proton-vapor-rig-with-matrix-perc.html
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...bius-minibeak-vapor-rig-with-matrix-perc.html
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...mobius-proton-vapor-rig-with-matrix-perc.html
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
I've been LOVING my cheap china quartz banger - Haven't used Ti since I got them:
18mm male Banger - http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/100-quartz-nail-male-jiont-nail-domeless/216874578.html
I also can't agree enough with @jpdnkstr
So a better setup (This is the one I actually use):
2 x 18m-18m Adapters - http://www.dhgate.com/product/2pcs-lot-glass-water-pipe-glass-adapter-jiont/196105021.html (you only need 1, but a spare/backup is always nice, and this price is basically what you'd pay for 1 adapter anyway
)Quartz Banger - 18mm - http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/100-really-quartz-nails-all-clear-with-the/214897874.html
Or a different link to a similar banger - http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/5pcs-lot-quartz-nail-honey-buckets-bubbler/216688786.html
Or I'm sure you could get a nicer American Made banger, I just can't help with links
jpdnkstr
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It's funny you should mention the cheap quartz banger.... I just picked one up locally, and haven't used my Ti since either!( Well... just once to compare!) I don't know where my LHS acquired the banger, but I stick with my advice about adapters because the ground joint on the banger I bought looked like a 5yr old ground it, fit about the same, but still works like a champ on my 60t(attached with a claim catch.... of course)
what do you guys think is better for flowers? The matrix ion, stereo matrix, sov g line, or an apix king stem to disc or double disc? I want whatever is going to get me the most medicated that is smoothest and doesn't require too much water because that always seems to kill it for me.
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SlinginPaint
As Above ∞ So Below
Stereo Matrix = more diffusion and LESS flavor (large size and lots of diffusion)
Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
I ended up selling my 60t, haven't considered selling my clear or ion...
The stereo matrix is a sweet perc, it's got a really nice draw once you've got all the water moving, but there's that little hint of chuggy drag at the beginning of the hit until that water is moving.
The clear and ion just have a super
Imo, if you're interested in any of them, you'll be happy with them, just don't expect a stereo matrix to be 2x as "good" as a single matrix - they're just different perc types.
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I see so the only thing you don't like is the chug? I can see that, but the only reason I didn't consider the ion is its not that far off from the sheldon black showerhead bubbler I have now. I wanted something different that I can take huge hits with. I care most about gettig the biggest smoothest and most imporantly POTENT hit! Too much water or diffusion takes away from some potency I believe, so if the matrix diffuses too much and loses potency then that would be something to consider. I don't care as much about flavor as long as all of it isn't lost, I live in NYC don't have the pleasure of smokin medical or homegrown so I don't get the perfect tasting stuff anyway so I don't mind some flavor loss as long as the potency ISNT lost. I was looking at the dirty Rico double 12 apocoline I wonder how that compares to a mobius. The matrix just looks so much nicer and better made. I wish I had the money for a peyote pillar, after seeing videos of it in action Im amazed, hardly any water it takes and the hits look literally amazingly smooth and not watered down
Yea but the large size is better for a big hit. U can only take so big of a hit in a smaller piece before it gets too harsh, as I said before flavor isn't nearly as important to as potency and smoothness at the same time
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