Discontinued MistVape Touch

[shaolinmilk]

So I've been using this bad boy out for a week or so... I must say... it definitely deserves a spot in my collection. It uses so little herb and gets you there fairly quickly! I'm still trying to figure out what the best technique is and with time... I'll master this. It's a really great vape IMO, however if you are impatient, this may not be for you.

 

[turk]

....definitely rewarded....for patience and time...it's a great journey.

 

[HellsWindStaff]

I agree getting handfuls of tasty clouds with .1 or less while kicking back MvT in hand is awesome

 

[Little Bill]

So I've been using this bad boy out for a week or so... I must say... it definitely deserves a spot in my collection. It uses so little herb and gets you there fairly quickly! I'm still trying to figure out what the best technique is and with time... I'll master this. It's a really great vape IMO, however if you are impatient, this may not be for you.

What @shaolinmilk said. However I did find out it doesn't work without a battery installed. Then with said battery installed, I just had 8 draws off a small load of .007 grams. ABV is light brown. I am pretty high; but I am going back in for more testing for science.

 

[Little Bill]

@Little Bill if you type ' .jpg ' after you paste the link ( before pressing insert) it will post the picture. I had the same probs to start with. That's a very nice looking Vape you got there. It really looks like flames don't you think?

Yes it does look like flames a little bit. I prefer to think of the pattern as vapor rising. Now using your technique for posting photos:

Sorry but I guess you can click the link if interested. Maybe too vaped.

This picture is ABV from .006 gram medium grind herb. I took 4 draws without stirring; turning the stem 90 degrees after each draw. From initial touch I started each draw 8 seconds in and kept drawing until 15 seconds.
The best thing is that I could take one draw and put the MVT down as long as I preferred until taking another. More like sipping wine compared to drawing on a cigarette that would burn down whether you drew or not.

Modnote: Edited to display image

 

[KeroZen]

Sure you're not adding an extra zero? 60mg is already hard to measure... 6mg doesn't even register!

 

[areyouthereguad]

I was able to get an MVT from an acquaintance, but now I'm wondering if someone could tell me if this is an older / "beta" unit? Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, I've just noticed it looks different than most of the ones I've seen.

 

[KeroZen]

That's a vintage collector item! Congrats!

 

[RelaxedNow]

It may be an early unit, but it's sure pretty! Although I'm glad mine has the newer door and the button was moved, that one is cool in its own way.

 

[vapen00b]

I was able to get an MVT from an acquaintance, but now I'm wondering if someone could tell me if this is an older / "beta" unit? Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, I've just noticed it looks different than most of the ones I've seen.

As long as it has the stacked pancake coils (which it should), you should be fine.
There were only design changes after that version.. Button layout, battery door and kill switch.
Actually, I like the old button placement even more - wonderful to hold it sideways, very convenient. And that thumb screw is perfect for tamping
(Also in case of emergency you can unscrew it and use the post as a stir tool! Been there...)

Enjoy it!

 

[soulfulrebel.MC]

I was able to get an MVT from an acquaintance, but now I'm wondering if someone could tell me if this is an older / "beta" unit? Haven't had a chance to try it out yet, I've just noticed it looks different than most of the ones I've seen.

Mate , You've had a right ' Touch" .

Which is (was) London slang for you having a stroke of luck/fortune.

 

[Little Bill]

Sure you're not adding an extra zero? 60mg is already hard to measure... 6mg doesn't even register!

Well yes @KeroZen there is actually a misplaced zero in my number. Should have said .060 gram to show the accuracy of my scale which reads down to .001 gram theoretically.

My only excuse is that I have the new MVT and also a new delivery (new supplier) of 13.960 grams (notice the extra zero) of weed to test out. This stuff is not easy but someone has to do it, extra (misplaced) zero or not.

 

[mistvaporizer]

@areyouthereguad that is the first production design (to be an official beta unit you would have had to get it from one of the testers, even then it is still the production design, the betas didn't need any changes). Functionally it is identical to the current model with the exception of it being a little hotter.
It is very cool for me to see an older unit and be able to think, that looks good. With every unit at every step of the process there is always something that I think could be just a little better so to see a picture of one, long after it was made, and be able to think "looks good" is gratifying. For any of the other crafts people out there you know what I mean.
Spent the last few days starting the next batch, got all the wood cut into blocks and did some preliminary work on the details. Got 16 blocks prepped for inlays and made inlay strips. Snake wood, bocote, purple heart and just one set of kings wood. When the inlays are done I'll post pics. The kings wood one is amazing. Kings wood is very oily and clogs sandpaper very quickly, a real pain to work with but really beautiful stuff.
The snake wood is from the same piece I used for the racks, great grain pattern. I cut up a relatively large piece of bocote and ended up with just enough for two units, fantastic grain pattern. And the purple heart is great, dark purple delightful wood.
Pics coming next week.

 

[Little Bill]

More test results but no picture.

I put .050 gram herb into the MVT using standard stem 2 screen method. By now I had put 7-8 loads through the MVT and felt confident using it. I had 4 draws on it turning after each draw.

suggestion for @mistvaporizer
I think it would be great if the standard stems had little notches at 90 degree angles around the top circle of the 14/20 joint. Easier to track stem turning.

Anyway I dumped the ABV out and saw it was still pretty green. Extraction maybe 40-50% without stirring. I put the light ABV into a Crafty and 3-4 draws later had a solid dark brown extraction 90%+.

I like the MVT a lot. It is beautiful, hits hard and tastes great. You can relax and draw at any pace, and I am not going to be concerned with stirring or vaporizer efficiency. I will just vape the ABV from the MVT (without stirring) in the Crafty or maybe learn other uses.

 

[PPN]

That's a vintage collector item! Congrats!

My beta unit will never quit my home.... maybe am I too much romantic...?

 

[soulfulrebel.MC]

More test results but no picture.

I put .050 gram herb into the MVT using standard stem 2 screen method. By now I had put 7-8 loads through the MVT and felt confident using it. I had 4 draws on it turning after each draw.

suggestion for @mistvaporizer
I think it would be great if the standard stems had little notches at 90 degree angles around the top circle of the 14/20 joint. Easier to track stem turning.

Anyway I dumped the ABV out and saw it was still pretty green. Extraction maybe 40-50% without stirring. I put the light ABV into a Crafty and 3-4 draws later had a solid dark brown extraction 90%+.

I like the MVT a lot. It is beautiful, hits hard and tastes great. You can relax and draw at any pace, and I am not going to be concerned with stirring or vaporizer efficiency. I will just vape the ABV from the MVT (without stirring) in the Crafty or maybe learn other uses.

@Little Bill Was there a reason you didn't scoop that 40-50% ABV back in and continue to vape it ? Had it reached a flavor/taste at which you stop at or did you just not think of putting it back in ? Interested to know.

I often use my nano as a finisher, just set it to a temp slightly higher than I vape at and Finish the thing. More so just to see how thorough an extraction has been using a different vape. It helps me gauge what a vape can do. Using the nano as the reference point due to it's ability to reach a high but controllable temperature. I kinda use this as the ABV terninator , cos only dark almost charred but definitely not combusted , just well baked herb comes out.

Hence I'll push my MVT to see how much it can extract and I'd say it does a very good job. The ABV is never really charred by the time I'm finished squeezing everything I can from the herb. I've only usually gotten a light not dense cloud from the nano after taking the ABV from the MVT. Which I felt was more just the material getting turned darker or being really cooked as opposed to feeling I'd gotten any goodies.

 

[Little Bill]

@Little Bill Was there a reason you didn't scoop that 40-50% ABV back in and continue to vape it ? Had it reached a flavor/taste at which you stop at or did you just not think of putting it back in ? Interested to know.

@soulfulrebel.MC thanks for your response. Yes on past bowls I have stirred the MVT stem and continued to draw until the ABV is more brown. See the pictures I have posted. But the Crafty is to me like the Nano is to you. I know exactly how to get the best extraction from it. The MVT has excellent taste and effect on the first 4-6 draws; but yesterday I didn't feel like stirring and trying to suck the last of the herb from it. So I used the MVT and Crafty both for their individual strong points. It made me very happy.

 

[little maggie]

Could someone point me to info on how to use this and especially the new door. Most of the pictures have the one with the screw top that flips to turn on and off. I can't find directions for using the new model. I actually like that quite a bit better than the sliding door- not sure why the change. I've looked at the videos I can find and have been looking at the info here from the beginning but now I'm feeling overwhelmed.
Also where is the on and off button? Not the door anymore?
There is a little switch on the bottom but both sides say on.

 

[muunch]

One side actually does say "off" but it's pretty hard to read.

To open the battery door, go to the flat spot on the top and push down slightly and pull that little piece of wood off.

Insert the battery with the positive side up and then turn it on. I don't know how to help you if you can't tell them apart, besides hitting the button til the coil turns red with the battery inserted. You need to slide that top cover back on in order for it to work though. Insert the battery door back in with the lined side furthest from where the stem goes.

The old design is definitely nice, but I appreciate the new battery door in that it's less effort and I'm lazy as fuck.

 

[mistvaporizer]

@little maggie the reply from @muunch is on the money. I will evaluate the instructions on the website and update, sorry for the confusion. Since I'm the only one working on this some things don't get done, I haven't put the stir tool on the website yet.
On is with the switch towards the porthole.

 

[Little Bill]

Good results with the MVT without stirring.

Well I just finished a small bowl using the two screen method. I put in 1.5 pinches (about .060 gram) and took 8 draws over a couple hours. For each draw I watched for the heater to begin to glow; then I released the touch and put the stem to my mouth and began to draw while feathering the touch. The draws lasted 6-8 seconds each and I got good vapor and taste each time. A few of those draws had a hint of popcorn and my lips felt the heat; so I'm hitting it pretty good. The trick is to feather the touch enough to get good vapor without combustion. I turned the stem clockwise 45 degrees after each draw; completing a full revolution with 8 draws.

I dumped the ABV and it looked pretty well toasted and that is without it having been stirred between draws. I was happy but decided to load it in the Crafty and try it. Basically I got one wispy draw at temp and another even wispier one at boost temp. I could have stirred it in the MVT and gotten the same result.

I think that the heat spot area of the stem is offset from center; so that turning at 45 degree steps allows the hot area to cover the full stem cross section. The heater in my MVT seems optimized for small bowls and that suits me fine.

I'm all about simplicity and ease of use. There is a learning curve with the MVT. The good advice previously posted in this thread has helped me learn to make the MVT work well for me. YMMV

 

[little maggie]

One side actually does say "off" but it's pretty hard to read.

To open the battery door, go to the flat spot on the top and push down slightly and pull that little piece of wood off.

Insert the battery with the positive side up and then turn it on. I don't know how to help you if you can't tell them apart, besides hitting the button til the coil turns red with the battery inserted. You need to slide that top cover back on in order for it to work though. Insert the battery door back in with the lined side furthest from where the stem goes.

The old design is definitely nice, but I appreciate the new battery door in that it's less effort and I'm lazy as fuck.

This is from another thread but you say your MVT has a "killswitch". What is that?

I'm going to try this with water. It's stronger than my other new vapes (zion and tubo). I tried it with the tubo whip and came close to combusting.

 

[sickmanfraud]

This is from another thread but you say your MVT has a "killswitch". What is that?

I'm going to try this with water. It's stronger than my other new vapes (zion and tubo). I tried it with the tubo whip and came close to combusting.

Not sure what you mean.

Are you saying the MVT is stronger the a Zion and Tubo? Both the Tubo and Zion have higher wattage in the heater dept??

I love my MVT, but there are times when I have been rushed and in that case I have reached for the MVT stem (2 screens) a 18-14 reducer and my Milaana. The stronger heater extracts the cannabinoids faster than the MVT, in my experience.

 

[soulfulrebel.MC]

This is from another thread but you say your MVT has a "killswitch". What is that?

I'm going to try this with water. It's stronger than my other new vapes (zion and tubo). I tried it with the tubo whip and came close to combusting.

@sickmanfraud I think what litlle maggie may be confusing being stronger over vapes that have temp settings.

@little maggie It is not so much the MVT is stronger or has more power but the fact it is unregulated, and therefore can potentially combust. As the temperature will continue to rise to its peak whilst the button is be pressed. The peak usually being above a temperature which can cause combustion.

However with the Zion & Tubo it is harder to combust if you've set a lower temperature, also that temperature remains fairly constant. I think that is what makes you feel the MVT is more powerful than the other two vapes. Upping the temperature on those vapes will yield stronger results and depending on peak temperature ore in Tubo's case the temp you set you could then potentially combust as in the MVT.

The killswitch is the button on the bottom of the touch. Placing in the off position stops any unintentional turn ons , when being carried transported etc. A nice little touch.

Enjoy your touch, I am constantly on mine.

 

[muunch]

@little maggie the killswitch is the little 'on/off' switch.

I find same results as @little maggie as well. It's like my MVT is not as "tame" compared to my Mi or something. I haven't tried through water as I still am struggling to get consistent results dry.