MiniVAP Vaporizer

Razhumikin

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...wat? the hole in the lid is substantially bigger than the flexicone thing I just received. There is ZERO chance I'm going to ever fit the WPA around the flexicone.

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The flexicone goes around the wpa and acts as a grommet between it and the lid.
 
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mp4466

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The flexicone goes around the wpa and acts as a grommet between it and the lid.
I can't get this to happen with the 10mm or 14mm adapter even once. I've been trying for about 3 hours now.

It's impossible. The flexicone might fit around the 10mm WPA stem if I give it another entire afternoon. But the 14mm one is definitely impossible, and is already a tight fit in the lid without the flexicone around it. Whoever designed this product doesn't use cannabis themselves.

I feel like I'm in The Twilight Zone; how are people happy with a ~$400 product that "functions" like this?
 
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monochord71

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...wat? the hole in the lid is substantially bigger than the flexicone thing I just received. There is ZERO chance I'm going to ever fit the WPA around the flexicone.
There's a reason the word "flexicone" starts with "flex"

It's obviously not "impossible"

Happy with the product because it works exactly as advertised.

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mp4466

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There's a reason the word "flexicone" starts with "flex"

It's obviously not "impossible"

Happy with the product because it works exactly as advertised.

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There's just no way with whatever they sent me. I can fit the flexicone piece inside of the WPA stem before it'll fit around the WPA. The WPA is so, so much bigger, I can't even stretch the flexicone that far pulling it with both hands.

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I'm now trying to put the WPA into it backwards/inside-out (just to see if the WPA can fit into that hole at all), and it's still not fitting and the "flexicone" is starting to rip:

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mp4466

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Yeah maybe the heating mechanism or whatever is nice, but the way the WPA + lid + flexicone (don't) work makes me feel like I just got scammed. If the MV just came out, I would've guessed it's an intentional design flaw in order to move more MV2 units or new accessories. But I'm pretty sure all of this has been out for a while now.
 
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mp4466

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Or someone sent you the wrong glass piece due to human error?

I hear weed makes some people really paranoid :rofl:
I haven't gotten to vape yet, just been getting super pissed at this glass piece since it arrived lmao. I'm hoping that is the case, but this company only sells 2 glasses pieces. I feel like that would be much more likely to happen with companies that deal with 3rd party logistics/retailers, and since they charge like $50 for 2 week shipping to the US...

Whatever, I should just put this down and wait til they get back to me lol. I'm getting irrationally pissed off I think because the last vape I spent $$ on was the Herbalizer that went out of business a week after. Also took the day off from work to enjoy this thing. Sad, but I'll stop being a child and panning the MV until I hear back.
 

monochord71

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I feel like that would be much more likely to happen with companies that deal with 3rd party logistics/retailers
miniVAP aren't glass blowers, so when it comes to the glass connectors themselves, they are 3d party re-sellers. The adapter itself is just a generic 14mm whip connector, it is possible that the glass wholesaler they get them from substituted "the next closest thing" when they ran out of glass with the correct stem width and they received a batch of the wrong ones.
The one in your photo does indeed look chunky.
I'm actually waiting on a couple of them, but it'll be a week or so until they get here. I cracked my first one after letting it get overly friendly with a huge hydratube.

In the meantime maybe try sticking the stem of the one they sent you into the business end of a flexicone+, I KNOW those will stretch to that size since I had to McGyver myself a temporary WPA using a chopped-off flexicone+ and a run-of-the-mill 14mm whip connector with a much fatter stem:

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mp4466

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miniVAP aren't glass blowers, so when it comes to the glass connectors themselves, they are 3d party re-sellers. The adapter itself is just a generic 14mm whip connector, it is possible that the glass wholesaler they get them from substituted "the next closest thing" when they ran out of glass with the correct stem width and they received a batch of the wrong ones.
The one in your photo does indeed look chunky.
I'm actually waiting on a couple of them, but it'll be a week or so until they get here. I cracked my first one after letting it get overly friendly with a huge hydratube.

In the meantime maybe try sticking the stem of the one they sent you into the business end of a flexicone+, I KNOW those will stretch to that size since I had to McGyver myself a temporary WPA using a chopped-off flexicone+ and a run-of-the-mill 14mm whip connector with a much fatter stem:

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Yeah, I wasn't thinking about them not actually manufacturing the parts themselves (silly thinking on my part). Will try this since I didn't intend to use the flexicone+ anyway. Thanks a ton, will report back.

@mp4466 ,
Check our @Delta3DStudios website and their superb silicon wide cap that goes over the mV lid.
Will check it out! Thanks for the suggestion.
 

Pea_Oh_Tea

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There's just no way with whatever they sent me. I can fit the flexicone piece inside of the WPA stem before it'll fit around the WPA. The WPA is so, so much bigger, I can't even stretch the flexicone that far pulling it with both hands.

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I'm now trying to put the WPA into it backwards/inside-out (just to see if the WPA can fit into that hole at all), and it's still not fitting and the "flexicone" is starting to rip:

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I received my MV about a week ago and the nipple on the end of the WPA was exactly like this and wouldn't fit under any conditions, so I just connected the flexicone directly to the WPA and use it like a log. Even without the cap in play, it was extremely difficult to get the flexicone onto the nipple. The flexicone+ tube is thinner and much easier to stretch around the WPA nipple...so that is another options for using the MV with water until you get a WPA that fits the cap properly.

I agree with @monochord71 that there's decent chance that it's a QC issue and will get sorted, but it does take time when emailing Minivap and then for things to ship.

I did check in with the folks at @Vaporific.ca and sent them a few photos that illustrate this issue with mine so I suspect this concern will not be falling on deaf ears once it reaches the right people.

It's no scam and the device is brilliant so hang in there :)
 

mp4466

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In the meantime maybe try sticking the stem of the one they sent you into the business end of a flexicone+, I KNOW those will stretch to that size since I had to McGyver myself a temporary WPA using a chopped-off flexicone+ and a run-of-the-mill 14mm whip connector with a much fatter stem

This ended up working great! Unfortunately like a dumbass I chipped my tooth on my glass 😅 The MV is definitely best vape I've used so far. Thanks for the help y'all, apologies for the emotional slander!


Hi @mp4466 , please give a look at the @Roger D videos, he was an old member but I think some of his videos are still in Youtube (YT username is rogerdelalune), he uses another technic to use the MiniVap with watertools, no need for a glass adapter!

Found one! His videos are still in YT!

I really like this setup. Def going to try to put something similar together.
 

PPN

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I really like this setup. Def going to try to put something similar together.
It's just like that: fill a basket and close it with a cone (the cone isn't attached to the top lid, you don't need it for that setup), place the basket+cone on a 14mm female glass joint (basket facing up) and fire it using your MiniVap like a logvape (like in the video link).

I don't know which is your MV model but I use my Quick Glass Core with a third part bowl like a logvape ( without the MV basket and cone ), I have another model which doesn't allow to be used like that cause the less wide bowl/heating chamber (at least I don't have any bowl which fits this smaller heating chamber.
Enjoy your MV!
 
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condition

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I have the same problem I think. I maybe have not understand how to use it. If I insert the flexicone into the WPA the vapor path becomes very narrow and very restricted, or am I doing it wrong?

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Razhumikin

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Does nobody else use their MV exclusively dry?

MV needs no water to RIP!
Why use it only one way when it shines in every way? Dry through a jhook or wet through a bubbler, its good both ways to me. My minivap is out for an rma right now and this thread bums me out, i miss it!!!
 
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FlyingLow

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Is someone not going to use MV if you don't have the tools to pair it through water?

Be resourceful, grab some silicone... ENJOY.
 
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monochord71

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Thanks there may be an error in my order then. Is it the WPA or the flexicones?
There's not much room for error with the flexicones, but it is starting to look like they may have received a batch of glass in the wrong size from their glass supplier.
The (now cracked) adapter I received with mine last year was a bit of a challenge to insert correctly the first time around, but not impossible and nowhere near enough of a stretch to tear a flexicone. And definitely had a stem too narrow to insert a flexicone into.

Does nobody else use their MV exclusively dry?

MV needs no water to RIP!
It's not so much about water as it is about a wider air path. Stretching the flexicone around a glass stem improves this.

It would seem to me that the miniVAP was NOT designed to be used with WPAs or bongs or huge 30 second rips. I think there's a reason it comes stock with two fairly restrictive mouthpieces and goes into "hang on a second, let me heat back up" mode when you honk on it like a madman.
Unfortunately that's what I like doing, so my miniVAPs tend to blink a lot. LOL
 
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Pea_Oh_Tea

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I have started thinking of the reheat blinking as my MV flirting with me... tempting and taunting me :)

And, if we are using the device in a way that it was not designed, how comfortable are we assuming that the governor which controls the heating cycles can prevent us from doing damage to the heater or other components? Just food for wandering thoughts...
 
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condition

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Does nobody else use their MV exclusively dry?

MV needs no water to RIP!
I own it for around 10 days and using it very often with the flexicone+
Even if the WPA was the correct size, I would attach JHook, so dry again. Your comment was very right though, the vapor is very smooth and don't feel the need for a JHook like I felt with Tinymight and it's dry hot vapor.
 

monochord71

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how comfortable are we assuming that the governor which controls the heating cycles can prevent us from doing damage to the heater or other components?
Considering how impossibly scarce "my miniVAP won't turn on" posts have been (compared to other...er...very popular units) I sleep pretty soundly after a massive miniVAP-through-bong session.
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
It would seem to me that the miniVAP was NOT designed to be used with WPAs or bongs or huge 30 second rips.
I agree with you it wasn't designed to be used like that but it appears the laminar heat to be very incomfortable for the throat and the MiniVap to work better through water imho, the ability to keep your drawing rate constant for long is the key to get big clouds. Although I found a little trick which consists to prime the load with a first hit without looking to vapor, followed by another which will produce vapor faster (that trick is good for many full convection vaporizers though). But I enjoy to sip on my MV too:cool:.
 
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