Milaana 3

[tb42091]

Appreciate the info! Cant wait to get mine!

 

[alleyhoops]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B8UcrtZHisQ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

 

[tb42091]

Well that's interesting.

 

[The Stray Fox]

Well that's interesting.

Interesting and concerning. I’m not sure why but I also noticed they pulled the Milaana 3 off their website. I’ve tried so hard to feel the love and ignore all the negative chatter but that Instagram post could not have come at a worst time and quite frankly solidified my already heavy heart towards RBT. I truly truly hope I can be won back in the future.

 

[Terpenetime]

Oh dear, I’m sad to see the news but I’m sure glad I bailed in January and already secured my refund. Good luck to those remaining in the game

 

[vapviking]

It does seem very odd that the Mi3 is not mentioned anywhere on the website.
We hope this is temporary, I'm looking forward to this one.

 

[Terpenetime]

It does seem very odd that the Mi3 is not mentioned anywhere on the website.

Without knowing more, I can only think of two potential reasons why...

1.) The investment RBT is seeking does not include the Milaana 3.

2.) There is a (further?) problem with the Mi3 that necessitates it being withdrawn from sale, either on a temporary or permanent basis.

Whatever the reason, I think RBT should move fast to answer this question before the rumour mill goes into overdrive, although I suppose it already has

 

[tb42091]

In the instagram post comments rbt says the Mi3s should still ship in 2 weeks and new designs are coming. So I'm definitely sticking with them a while longer. It also helps that I have the chargeback option if everything falls apart.

But there is also another comment saying that they would never invest in Ryan, followed by RBT agreeing they wouldnt invest in Ryan either.....

That seems odd, especially considering a post not far off is quoting someone who said "if you dont like Ryan, fuck you."

 

[alleyhoops]

In the instagram post comments rbt says the Mi3s should still ship in 2 weeks and new designs are coming. So I'm definitely sticking with them a while longer. It also helps that I have the chargeback option if everything falls apart.

But there is also another comment saying that they would never invest in Ryan, followed by RBT agreeing they wouldnt invest in Ryan either.....

That seems odd, especially considering a post not far off is quoting someone who said "if you dont like Ryan, fuck you."

I saw that a few weeks back and I had no idea what that means. It was kind of concerning though. I don't like drama, but Ryan is a good guy and his products have been great. I hope he figures it out.

 

[caliganja420]

Pro-ordered beginning of August 2019... requesting refund NOW

 

[Stonedbadger]

Yep I too have just emailed RBT and Cole to request a full refund. The lack of communication and now the fact that the Mi3 is no longer listed on the website is the final straw I'm afraid.

 

[Ramahs]

This at least relieves some of my regrets for not pre-ordering as I'd planned way pack in mid to late 2019.

 

[sickmanfraud]

Guys,

I am not on the pre-list so I have no skin in the game, however, there are various benign reasons possible which may explain why the MI3 is not listed:

1. Perhaps the "pre-order" option is not there because if you want a MI 3 now you will need to pay full freight (if not for the discount why tie up $$ for months) at this time?

2. It could be "missing" so people don't try to get the 30% discount (Feb only?)on the soon to be released MI 3. If "newcomers" would be able to get the MI3 cheaper than the pre-orders, the people who had been pre-orders would be upset.

3. It could be that the MI3 is missing so they can adjust the retail price to reflect the extra costs of the delays and forced "upgrades/improvements".

As I said, I have no skin in this game, but I am not sure panicking is in order, yet.

@RBTcole am I correct? A small dose of reassurance would go a long way in making pre-order customers calm.

 

[vapviking]

I don't think panic is at all in order. Ryan has written here that the Mi3 is in US, held up by a minor customs snafu. We will see the pre-orders soon and I am excited to be getting my first Milaana!

I think that within days of having one I will make the call, brass screw or ss screw, then put the other away and basically forget about it. So much for the 'manufacturing glitch', no big deal.

Hey, I'm a hardened Grasshopper Veteran; none of this seems more than a ripple to me...

 

[rosedale]

Guys,

I am not on the pre-list so I have no skin in the game, however, there are various benign reasons possible which may explain why the MI3 is not listed:

1. Perhaps the "pre-order" option is not there because if you want a MI 3 now you will need to pay full freight (if not for the discount why tie up $$ for months) at this time?

2. It could be "missing" so people don't try to get the 30% discount (Feb only?)on the soon to be released MI 3. If "newcomers" would be able to get the MI3 cheaper than the pre-orders, the people who had been pre-orders would be upset.

3. It could be that the MI3 is missing so they can adjust the retail price to reflect the extra costs of the delays and forced "upgrades/improvements".

As I said, I have no skin in this game, but I am not sure panicking is in order, yet.

@RBTcole am I correct? A small dose of reassurance would go a long way in making pre-order customers calm.

Those are all possibilities and I think that in most cases, the manufacturer should get the benefit of the doubt. In this particular case, there is a demonstrated track record with other products in regards to communication, pre-orders, and product launches which suggest that the benefit of the doubt is not warranted.

RBT makes amazing vapes. The Zion is nothing short of a masterpiece but the explanation is not adding up for me. The original “story” was that the product was received but a screw swap was needed and that was the only thing delaying shipment. Next we hear about a previously undisclosed customs issue after it was insinuated that all of the product had been received. Now some more questions about the viability of the company and the product listing have come into play.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me repeatedly, that’s on me.

 

[tb42091]

If you no longer have a horse in the race why not leave the thread? No need to stress out people with money still tied up. You already said you got your refund so no one is fooling you.

 

[entirely_foreign]

People posting in this thread are not the problem

 

[tb42091]

People posting in this thread are not the problem

What do you mean?

 

[entirely_foreign]

You said

No need to stress out people with money still tied up.

It's not posts in this thread that are stressing people out. Nobody is kicking up a panic out of nothing, there's been surprisingly little speculation.

 

[tb42091]

Obviously RBTs lack of communication is an issue and is the cause for all of this speculation (which it definitely is because we dont know anything for certain and look at all the reasons people have already given). @rosedale said essentially the same thing they said on the previous page, except on the previous page they said they would drop it since they didnt have money in anymore.


Not sure how it helps....it just adds mud to the water.

You said



It's not posts in this thread that are stressing people out. Nobody is kicking up a panic out of nothing, there's been surprisingly little speculation.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Those are all possibilities and I think that in most cases, the manufacturer should get the benefit of the doubt. In this particular case, there is a demonstrated track record with other products in regards to communication, pre-orders, and product launches which suggest that the benefit of the doubt is not warranted.

RBT makes amazing vapes. The Zion is nothing short of a masterpiece but the explanation is not adding up for me. The original “story” was that the product was received but a screw swap was needed and that was the only thing delaying shipment. Next we hear about a previously undisclosed customs issue after it was insinuated that all of the product had been received. Now some more questions about the viability of the company and the product listing have come into play.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me repeatedly, that’s on me.

I think said track record does the opposite of what you said and DOES warrant the benefit of doubt here... For every product launch and pre-order situation, has there not always been a delay or communication issue? And has the product always ended up arriving eventually as promised?... That's my interpretation at least

 

[jbm]

2. It could be "missing" so people don't try to get the 30% discount (Feb only?)on the soon to be released MI 3. If "newcomers" would be able to get the MI3 cheaper than the pre-orders, the people who had been pre-orders would be upset.

This. I’d be pretty pissed off if, after having pre-ordered at the initial price the day of announcement, people were able to order it at a 30% discount 6 months later. I had bought a custom Z at full price awhile back, and before I ordered I asked Cole if there were any discounts in the offing. He said there weren’t, as far as he knew, so I bought it. A month later they announced 20% off everything. I was pissed, and I contacted Cole, who said he didn’t know, and I believe him. I see this as one of the risks of dealing with RBT, but it’s minor, in my view. I own 4 Splinters and a Mi2, and they’re stellar vapes. I’m not asking for a refund.

 

[entirely_foreign]

From the hypotheticals above 2 is straight up wrong. They've had discount codes in the past that applied only to select products, and that specifically did not apply to Mi3 (they've also had coupon codes mistaken applied to mi3 pre-orders).

 

[CL52613]

Panic is not what anyone of us is doing, it is expecting a 420 company to operate by the same principles, we as consumers expect from any other legitimate company from whom we would buy products. Many of us have supported Ryan's projects since they first hit the market, and showed extreme patience when products were delayed. Back than Ryan had a presence here, would communicate and answer questions and concerns. As his business plans grew his presence diminished but most of us continued to support his endeavors. Last year he came here and announced plans for a number of vapes he was developing and the update to the Milaana 2, which he touted as smaller, more powerful, more efficient, and cleaner; due to an improved heater design. He said pre-orders would benefit from reduced price, additional accessories, and a fulfillment date before 2020. December came and we got a flaky excuse of resistance problems with the heater that required retooling of connection screw. I guess we were supposed to think a commonly manufactured screw needed to be custom-made and would require an additional 2 weeks. No problem, we can all underestimate how much time we need to complete a job, but the explanation was a bit concerning since it sounded like an excuse instead of being transparent. Well the 2 weeks came and went without a word from Ryan or Cole, which caused some to reconsider their order, which is understandable. Than came the snafu regarding the issuing of refunds, some were processed others were not; and still not a peep from Ryan or Cole. Finally Ryan did post an update, albeit almost a month after the last shipment date delay. Now a new delay is said to be the fault of the Customs Department because of something to do with the type of wood used to manufacture the Milaana 3. Are you frigging kidding me? Weren't these already finished and simply awaiting the magic screw that had to be custom made? Suddenly we are told the wood for the vapes is being held by customs, so what happened to our vapes only needing the magic screw to be added to the ready to ship boxes? I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone, but in the words of Judge Judy, don't piss on my head and tell me it is raining. I am still hoping Ryan has the integrity to finish this project he asked all of us to support and stop being so shady or flaky or whatever you want to call it. Dude, stop with the excuses and just tell us straight up what the situation is, and when you are going to deliver the already paid for vapes. If you are upset by this post I sincerely apologize, just remember I put my trust and good faith in you and your word because you asked and you should feel a responsibility to keep the trust and not abuse it through avoidance or BS. I requested a refund almost one month ago and did not receive one just in case some of the followers are curious for my motives regarding this post. I do not mind having spent my hard earned cash, I do not mind a minor setback with delivery, I do mind being a mushroom and kept in the dark and the powerful smell of mendacity emanating from the too infrequent responses to legitimate questions.

 

[Dreuft]

Panic is not what anyone of us is doing, it is expecting a 420 company to operate by the same principles, we as consumers expect from any other legitimate company from whom we would buy products. Many of us have supported Ryan's projects since they first hit the market, and showed extreme patience when products were delayed. Back than Ryan had a presence here, would communicate and answer questions and concerns. As his business plans grew his presence diminished but most of us continued to support his endeavors. Last year he came here and announced plans for a number of vapes he was developing and the update to the Milaana 2, which he touted as smaller, more powerful, more efficient, and cleaner; due to an improved heater design. He said pre-orders would benefit from reduced price, additional accessories, and a fulfillment date before 2020. December came and we got a flaky excuse of resistance problems with the heater that required retooling of connection screw. I guess we were supposed to think a commonly manufactured screw needed to be custom-made and would require an additional 2 weeks. No problem, we can all underestimate how much time we need to complete a job, but the explanation was a bit concerning since it sounded like an excuse instead of being transparent. Well the 2 weeks came and went without a word from Ryan or Cole, which caused some to reconsider their order, which is understandable. Than came the snafu regarding the issuing of refunds, some were processed others were not; and still not a peep from Ryan or Cole. Finally Ryan did post an update, albeit almost a month after the last shipment date delay. Now a new delay is said to be the fault of the Customs Department because of something to do with the type of wood used to manufacture the Milaana 3. Are you frigging kidding me? Weren't these already finished and simply awaiting the magic screw that had to be custom made? Suddenly we are told the wood for the vapes is being held by customs, so what happened to our vapes only needing the magic screw to be added to the ready to ship boxes? I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt to anyone, but in the words of Judge Judy, don't piss on my head and tell me it is raining. I am still hoping Ryan has the integrity to finish this project he asked all of us to support and stop being so shady or flaky or whatever you want to call it. Dude, stop with the excuses and just tell us straight up what the situation is, and when you are going to deliver the already paid for vapes. If you are upset by this post I sincerely apologize, just remember I put my trust and good faith in you and your word because you asked and you should feel a responsibility to keep the trust and not abuse it through avoidance or BS. I requested a refund almost one month ago and did not receive one just in case some of the followers are curious for my motives regarding this post. I do not mind having spent my hard earned cash, I do not mind a minor setback with delivery, I do mind being a mushroom and kept in the dark and the powerful smell of mendacity emanating from the too infrequent responses to legitimate questions.

Agreed 100%! I feel like a mushroom kept in the dark too and I don't like this AT ALL!!! WTF?? @RBTcole you own us the truth and our already paid vaporizers!
What a fuckin mistake I made to pre-order with this company!!