Would be going full circle
Would be going full circle
You know it's funny though, I've recently been using my DV after it living in the drawer most of the time, but exclusively with old skool hash which it's great for.
Unfortunately the old school hash I currently have is not a bedtime one.
Tbh I'll probably just continue with dabs, but in emergencies maybe go with Vapman and Dynavap
Yes, it can go slower. You would want a bigger bowl like the Couch Log bowl or a @VGOODIEZ 14mm injector bowl; the distance will help. Because of the geometry, more herbs will mean deeper herbs, so stirring and all that implies will be necessary. I would think that that depth vs diameter at this size could alter the effectiveness more than it might a broader load surface, but I don't see why it wouldn't be doable and probably doable just fine. I would have to experiment later to be more specific.
Thanks for the insight! Do you think the zirconia ZX bowl places the herb too close to the heater for slower sessions or are you suggesting the glass bowl for fitting bigger loads because it's difficult to get multiple hits out of small amounts of herb? I have one of Joda's CouchLog WPAs so I think I'm sorted either way, it's such a good bowl with the adjustable screen depth and ease of stirring.
The heater will be close but I was thinking more of the amount, yes. The Joda wpa aught to work fine, with caveats for the breadth v depth. I will try it later for anything unexpected but I think it will work great.
An observation, when dialing the ZX screen depth I tried a screen on the ledge that positions the head depth. It was workable, but it made the head prone to falling off the bowl. Preparation wise I adjusted the temps up and down and went with finer and coarser grinds (MFLB finish grinder to scissor cut) but performance (taste as goal) was not enough of an improvement to justify the breakage and burn risks. After working the load depth down the bowl to the stock position I stopped.
Just tried it with the basket screen full and about .5" down from the bottom of the joint. ZX set to 325F on the DC PID (~400F probably). I got 5 nice, cool, tasty hits off what would usually be a full hit and a cleanup, probably. It seems like between the temperature, the am't, and the placement of the screen, you have parameters you can modify to make it comfortable for yourself, along with more headroom if you ever need it. I think it would work.
Thanks a million for testing this set up for me! That kind of session sounds like exactly what I'm looking for, the small size of the ZX probably makes it easier to temp step with too if needed I'm guessing. After seeing that Ryan might be discontinuing the ZX & ZXL I decided to get a ZXL because it looked like he still had a few in stock. If he does do another run of the ZX I'd strongly consider putting my name down if it's noticeably better at microdosing and faster at temp changes!
Do you have any other thoughts around depth vs. diameter? Specifically, something I have been wondering recently is: At what point is it better for me to reach for a bigger chamber ball vape, versus packing a larger load into a glass bowl for use with a 14mm injector.
I think it would depend how you want the session to go with the bigger load. If your no. 1 priority is fast extraction then a bigger vape like the screwball will be able to provide more hot air and the bowl is wider so all the herb will be getting hit with hot air fresh off the rubies. If you also really dislike stirring the screwball will probably also handle the larger load better because again you're hot air isn't losing as much energy before it reaches the herb at the bottom of the bowl so you won't need to stir. If you don't mind stirring I think you'd be fine with the ZX and a good glass bowl to hold bigger loads, the extraction shouldn't be any less efficient you'll just have to stir to bring the herb at the bottom of the bowl to the top. The glass bowl also lacks conduction heating so you might notice the herb doesn't roast as well round the edge of the bowl.
The ZXL! Well, you'll certainly be able to go larger with it! It's really great, you won't be disappointed. I haven't fully got a handle on it yet because it seems crazy efficient in terms of temps--I haven't run it above 480 yet--though it varies per pipe more than others will, I guess because it's so open? The flavors are detailed. With the screen on the upper ledge, .1g will be a screen covering; with the screen lower or a deeper injector bowl, low-temp sipping sessions should be great. I'll have to try it at lower temps and see how it is.
~.2g in the ZX bowl is about the limit of what will fit. That or more in the ZXL or Zeal or Screwdriver would roast more efficiently.
The more I think about it the more convinced I am the ZXL will suit what I want better. I have the tempest for smaller doses and the screwball for larger. I was hoping the upper screen load would be around 0.1g so that's great to hear, I imagine the extraction could be even faster than the ZX with that wider diameter assuming it has enough energy to keep up! The max bowl size I think I'd be looking for is 0.25 to 0.3 so unless the glass improves the flavour I think I'll be more than happy with the zirconia bowl. Looking forward to hearing how the low temp session goes!
1.5g in the Zi half-bowl, ZXL set to 450F=5 decent low-temp hits and a couple cleanups. Temps could maybe go slightly lower; with the screen at the bottom you might have more flexibility. As long as you load enough you would be able to use it the way you'd like, and you'll have a lot of reserve power for roasting larger bowls or quick snaps--it's . Works nicely with Ed's newest injector bowls and the SBL bowls, too.
TARDIS technology?
I fucked that up so bad I don't even know what I was trying to say!
