Magical Butter

[BuzzDanklin]

Almost 4 hours later, feeling a bit relaxed, pretty mild. Time to eat 6 more.

On another note, I have always had a hard time with edibles, they just don't seem to affect me near as strong as other people. Are there any tips to maximize my results? I did the first 6 today on a fully empty stomach, then the next 6 I hate with a pack of crackers, and the final 6 I just ate on an empty stomach again.

Should I be eating something fatty with edibles? like yogurt and cheese/milk etc?

Also worth noting, the edibles I get from dispensaries also don't seem to do much for me either, even the 100mg ones they repeatedly warn not to eat at once, so I am in no way blaming the MB

 

[t-dub]

Should I be eating something fatty with edibles?

Yes it helps. The most stoned I ever got was on a hash cookie and a grilled cheese sandwich with lots of butter. Everyone is different with edibles. There is the first pass liver effect to consider. Because biology is brilliant your blood goes there first before going elsewhere, unlike breathing. When Delta 9 THC enters the liver it is converted to 11 Hydroxy THC, a much more psychoactive substance, but your digestion, gut health, and ability to absorb nutrients is going to come into play as well.

 

[Puffers]

@BuzzDanklin and @champion buzzmate are hard at work testing again. Buzz try a fatty well rounded meal that is somewhat light a half hr or so before your medible. Sometimes it works for me but like your expereince it can be really hit or miss. Which is frustrating when everyone around you is ripped on like half your dosage.

Buzz! Surprisingly that handle is unused for your roommate to claim. You should have him sign up so grasshopper followers can innundate him with questions

 

[momofthegoons]

I've had trouble with edibles too. Not only making them, but eating them. The ones I make are either too weak or like LSD, lol. And the only ones I've ever really gotten off on (in recent years) are the ones that were like LSD and that was no fun AT ALL. Let's just say I get why that infamous police officer was calling 911...

I've tried twice recently; once with abv and once with good quality trim. I got a mild buzz from both after eating several. My husband and my friend's husband who don't use were tweaked from one of them. A friend of mine with a tolerance much lower than mine ate a dozen of them and felt nothing.

One thing I think I'm going to try this next time is leave the 'pulp' in for edibles. Back in 'the day' all I did was throw a bag of pot in a brownie mix. And it was always successful. Shit... I don't even think we cooked at low temp, which is probably how it decarbed, lol. The pulp left over still has actives in it and is ground so fine I don't think it will be an issue.

And I just read an article tonight before coming on about the optimum time to eat an edible. It said about 45 minutes after eating a light meal. It also talked about the 'first pass' through the stomach and liver that
@t-dub mentioned. The stomach plays a part in this too since it is in the process already of digesting when the edible hits it.

 

[Vapor King]

Just wondering how much people are using for their magical butter MB2 recipes of each product and what level of potency you would call it (I know subjective)


of ABV, Trim, fresh, extracts. per butter/oils


I saw a video where he used 1/8 of fresh per stick of butter.... just curious what works for everyone

 

[ChiefKeefe]

Do whatever you want. Some like more potent some less. There is a min line in the machine so you have to do a certain amount of butter. The brownies i use for my abv are 1/2 of oil. So I usually do the math .8 of shake per. 12 brownies per batch. Which is 9.6 grams of shake per batch. I think I need minimum 3 cups of coconut oil in it. So I do 9.6 x 6 for 3 cups divided by half cup.

Thats a good way to do math out. If you want .4 per brownie then do the math.

Also I use lecithin and once I strain freeze for over an hour.

 

[Vapor King]

I was hoping to get some base lines.

I've read a ounce of keif per pound of butter.... sounds excessive

 

[ChiefKeefe]

Are u not capable of simple math. Potency all depends on who takes it.. If i give my dad an edible with .4 it would rock him, me not so much.. Its all what you want.

1/2 of oil = 1 batch of brownies = 12 brownies.

So if you put 6 grams per 1/2 cup each brownie will have .5 if you do 1/2 cup and 12 brownies a tray..,


The math is simple testing potency for yourself is just going to be trial and error.. No1 will know what amout will get u medicated except for U.

Not trying to be rude..

 

[killick]

I made a batch yesterday with 4 cups coconut oil (max line on the machine) to 80 grams. I did a quick decarb in the oven (220 for an hour) beforehand.

I've made it both stronger and weaker. I find this a reasonable baseline for most things, and if I need stronger I top it off with tincture.

 

[Vapor King]

Are u not capable of simple math.

No my calculator is broken...Don't be rude!!

Of course potency depends on the user.... trying to get baselines for people are using for each product....I'm not looking to recreate the wheel

Potency between ingredients is what differ... so amount would differ...can you comprehend that?

.5 of ABV is certainly differs from .5 of flower which would differ from .5 of trim which would differ from .5 of extract

So if you don't have a starting baseline....you can do all the math you want...but your math would suck

I made a batch yesterday with 4 cups coconut oil (max line on the machine) to 80 grams. I did a quick decarb in the oven (220 for an hour) beforehand.

I've made it both stronger and weaker. I find this a reasonable baseline for most things, and if I need stronger I top it off with tincture.

Thank you! 80 grams of ?? ABV??

 

[killick]

Fresh herb, sorry. All my ABV got used during the great MCT oil making frenzy of early 2015 Having said that I do have 15 or so grams of ABV - I'll go toss that in with the fresh in the MB machine for a more well-rounded experience. I use about 15g/cup on average.

I originally started using about 5 g of ABV per cup, but it was only an occasional thing when I was first starting MM. Now I make something every week or two. Last time it was tinc, this time it's cocobudder, next time it will be MCT oil. And ABV gets added when there is enough in the collector to make it worthwhile.

Plus I save the sludge and use it for something - putting in brekkie smoothies, cannacapsules, mixed with epsom salts for bath time (not tried this yet, but it failed miserably in the shower

 

[darkrom]

Are u not capable of simple math. Potency all depends on who takes it.. If i give my dad an edible with .4 it would rock him, me not so much.. Its all what you want.

1/2 of oil = 1 batch of brownies = 12 brownies.

So if you put 6 grams per 1/2 cup each brownie will have .5 if you do 1/2 cup and 12 brownies a tray..,


The math is simple testing potency for yourself is just going to be trial and error.. No1 will know what amout will get u medicated except for U.

Not trying to be rude..

I get what you are saying and appreciate it because it is correct. However its always good to hear what others do. I am interested in hearing people's ratios of bud to glycerin, because my buddy just got one of these bad boys! Its definitely variable and trial and error, but if 10 people like 10 grams in the minimum glycerin, 1 person like 5g in the min amount, and 2 people like 28 grams all in the same amount, it gives you a ballpark of where to start.

I'm super curious and I'd love to make some tincture. I don't really want to waste buds, or "overdose" which in my case would be some pretty bad anxiety and nothing dangerous, but still not fun.

 

[killick]

Darkrom - that's exactly how I figured my ratios. Lots of reading, followed by trowel and error which was a lot shorter than the other way.

Tincture is great. I use it for everything. I #just now# made chocolate using cocao powder, cocobudder and maple syrup. And an 1/8 cup of tincture to kick it up a bit... Great stuff

PS - the tinc was 80g to 4 cups Everclear, and then reduced down to a cup.

 

[darkrom]

We want to use glycerin not alcohol for this one.

 

[momofthegoons]

We want to use glycerin not alcohol for this one.

Here are a few links to articles that might have the answers you are looking for:

http://skunkpharmresearch.com/glycerin-extraction/

http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http://bigbudsmag.com/how-to-make-a-glycerin-based-medical-marijuana-tincture/&h=mAQHxEDJt&s=1

http://culinarycannabis.org/glycerin-cannabis-tincture/

https://patients4medicalmarijuana.wordpress.com/medical-use-of-cannabis-video/marijuana-tincture/

None of these use the MB machine, however. I did also find this:

 

[Vitolo]

I get what you are saying and appreciate it because it is correct. However its always good to hear what others do.

I always make my ABV quantities 3 to 1 to what I use for bud.
This applies to butter, tinctures... and ABV ground into flour for immediate use.
It is my estimation after years of experimentation and variety of consumption methods that ABV has lost 2/3 of it's THC content to vapor production, and retains the CBDs and some THC to the tune of 30% or so.

 

[darkrom]

I'm definitely not using ABV for a glycerin tincture, the taste would kill me haha. But thanks for the info both of you Very helpful stuff.

 

[Steele Concept]

Hey guys, hope everyone has been well in this thread. Been a while since I posted in this thread but I made a new YouTube tincture tutorial. Hope you enjoy it and stay medicated folks

 

[cannacane84]

I made a batch yesterday with 4 cups coconut oil (max line on the machine) to 80 grams. I did a quick decarb in the oven (220 for an hour) beforehand.

I've made it both stronger and weaker. I find this a reasonable baseline for most things, and if I need stronger I top it off with tincture.

Hello. Im new to this thread but I was wondering if you knew if your material don't meet the minimum fill line well it burn

 

[momofthegoons]

Hello. Im new to this thread but I was wondering if you knew if your material don't meet the minimum fill line well it burn

You absolutely need to fill the MB to the minimum line. Yes, it will burn.

 

[cannacane84]

You absolutely need to fill the MB to the minimum line. Yes, it will burn.

So how much material do u think I would need for 2 cups of oil? My tolerance is stupid high. How much trim. And how much flower

 

[Vapor King]

What ratio of keif to butter that folk use?

 

[momofthegoons]

So how much material do u think I would need for 2 cups of oil? My tolerance is stupid high. How much trim. And how much flower

My ratio is 1 oz. of good bud to 1 c. of butter for edibles. If using trim, I use 2 oz. If using abv, I use 3 oz. The same ratio for oil.

What ratio of keif to butter that folk use?

You need to be more careful with this since it is more concentrated. I'm not sure what the generalized ratio is. Perhaps @Vitolo could chime in here and help?

 

[grokit]

I think that I would rather just sprinkle my keif on buttered toast than infuse it in said butter

 

[Vitolo]

Loose kief would be most desirable.. if pressed kief, break it up well in spite of the unit having a blender.
I use 10 to 12 grams of kief for a full pound of butter as a ratio.
And then there is this:

I think that I would rather just sprinkle my keif on buttered toast than infuse it in said butter