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MadHeaters Shipping Thread
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This is upsetting news! I preordered the TI in the USA and I’d really love to get it. How does it work? Are they shipped from China or UK?
jaanky
Active Member
May 2nd for China and Hong Kong. The "Fact Sheet" reads like de minimis exemptions might still be in place for every other country?
If these ship direct from China to the U.S. we're screwed. If they go to the UK first and undergo "substantial change" or whatever the term is then they'd be subjected to 10% IF de minimis exemptions are no longer in place -- at least, that's how I'm reading this
They will ship from the UK, but the country of origin is what matters and it's made in China. Currently via USPS, it’s a flat rate of $100 per parcel now and $200 after June 1st.May 2nd for China and Hong Kong. The "Fact Sheet" reads like de minimis exemptions might still be in place for every other country?
If these ship direct from China to the U.S. we're screwed. If they go to the UK first and undergo "substantial change" or whatever the term is then they'd be subjected to 10% IF de minimis exemptions are no longer in place -- at least, that's how I'm reading this
jaanky
Active Member
Damn. That's some pricey freedom. Well, smoke 'em if you got 'em.
A historical event about tea and taxes keeps coming to mind for some reason...
The fact sheet says “30% of the value, or $25.”Where does the rest come from? Either way I’m willing to pay the difference to USA lol. Have already spent and waited this much
KEKC
New Member
Could you please confirm if I understand correctly that the final cost for the USA would be:
Tempest 2 – $245
Shipping before June 1st – $100
Shipping after June 1st – $200
Total: $345 or $445?
As much as that would suck i would still pay it. It'll be an expensive-ass heat shield but full Ti would justify it for me.
I have so little faith that things will get better anytime soon, that I too am willing to pay $100 before June 1.
Nobody tell my friends and family though.
I might be wrong about this. There was a change on the 9th from $25/ $50 to the 100/200, but that page was deleted since, so it seems like it’s still 25$ through USPS.
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Hate to be a broken record but like others, I'll pay the difference if tariffs aren't resolved soon. Maybe you can have US customers reply to an email and then invoice whoever is okay with it.
It sucks, but what sucks more is having to miss out on something (that you ordered) because of a complete loser in the white house.
It sucks, but what sucks more is having to miss out on something (that you ordered) because of a complete loser in the white house.
cuckF0mbustion
Member
Dang man this tariff and refund talk is sad. I hope we have the option to pay the tariff instead of getting a refund. In most circumstances I would probably want a refund if it was slapped with an exorbitant tariff but I would rather just pay it in this case. I'm so ready to be done with combustion and I'm really close. I just need a daily driver that I like so I can stop carrying my hitter box and the portable vapes I've been able to get my hands on are mid. Seems like all the best portable options are small batch and hard to acquire. I used a tempest at a friend's house though and for sure could use that thing as my main device if it had a bigger bowl. The v2 looks like it actually might check all the boxes for me. These tariffs are so stupid and frustrating
jbm
Well-Known Member
I don’t know. If it’s a Chinese tariff you’d be paying 145% of the item cost, which would make it another 300 dollars or so. I love my v1, but I don’t know that I want to pay 500 bucks all told for the v2.
add1noob
Well-Known Member
The tariff must to be paid at or before delivery to USPS afaik. Hopefully they’ll have no idea how to collect the money and there will be a pause
It seems like it’s a flat rate of $25 per parcel atm.
Then you would have to pay 20% UK VAT instead which is even more
jaanky
Active Member
The $25 or $50 per parcel is effectively 10% or 20% and something I think most of us would stomach.
If things get really weird (like 145% weird), any chance the T2 could undergo some "substantial transformation" in the UK before shipping? Hand-etched serial numbers? Signature from the founder? That would make it a 10% tariff again. I'm sure an intelligent engineer/business owner could find a way to make the paperwork kosher
Edit: proper terminology and this source and this source
If things get really weird (like 145% weird), any chance the T2 could undergo some "substantial transformation" in the UK before shipping? Hand-etched serial numbers? Signature from the founder? That would make it a 10% tariff again. I'm sure an intelligent engineer/business owner could find a way to make the paperwork kosher
Edit: proper terminology and this source and this source
phenomflowers
New Member
was the free shipping based on drop ship from china?
we already payed a high exchange rate for a UK purchase(not china) but i would be ok paying shipping from UK if that can happen.
I have the Vong-i WPA stem and only ordered the V2 due to early delivery of the V2 head.
we already payed a high exchange rate for a UK purchase(not china) but i would be ok paying shipping from UK if that can happen.
I have the Vong-i WPA stem and only ordered the V2 due to early delivery of the V2 head.
add1noob
Well-Known Member
I miss when Americans would throw revolutions over taxes. What are we even supposed to do? Last time they dropped a bunch of tea into the ocean or something and that helped? Should we all just go to Boston and dump a bunch of weed in the ocean? What would the founding fathers do?Then you would have to pay 20% UK VAT instead which is even more
jaanky
Active Member
I think when basic day-to-day items aren't being stocked at big box stores like Target and Walmart we'll see public sentiment rapidly pressure the admin into retreating from tariffs or else there will be real-deal riots. This isn't WWII where everyone is pulling together and willingly rationing resources for a collective cause. This is just plain stupidity.
Americans, feel free to contact your reps and let them know there are limited run Tempest 2s with full Ti heat shields on the line.
add1noob
Well-Known Member
Is there a politics thread on this website? I wrote up a bunch of stuff, but I feel like it’s a bit much for a Tempest thread. But in short you would be surprised how much it takes to get the public to do something.
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Hold my beer... Actually, make that Hold our beer...
sternit
Member
i am no lawyer, but i am sure thats legally possible. BUT you would also have to legally pay all the tariffs once you get back to the US with a backpack full of tempests and if i understand that fact sheet right, that someone else linked earlier, you would have to pay even more:
"Imported goods sent through means other than the international postal network that are valued at or under $800 and that would otherwise qualify for the de minimis exemption will be subject to all applicable duties, which shall be paid in accordance with applicable entry and payment procedures."
ThisIsMyVapestick
Active Member
Well, this is the funniest fucking thing I'm going to read today.
"Dear Congressperson Dipshit,
I was lucky enough to score a pre-sale limited edition Tempest 2 (as in the one that I'm sure you know has the Ti heat shield!). Save the jealousy for another day - I need your diplomatic privilege to ensure its safe passage into the country. I didn't vote for you and I won't vote for you, like ever. Regardless, you have a month to prepare for its safe arrival.
Sincerely,
Your non-supportive constituent, FuckPyrolysis"
Kinda like that?