BayAreaVapologist
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Anyone get an email from Loto Lux about their new dabbing rig, Legend? After my bad experience with their vaporizer, I am probably not going to make this purchase.
Discontinued Loto Labs Lux (formerly Evoke)
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I would be extremely hesitant being that the Evoke "Lux" was such a flop.
Have they even fulfilled everyone's order before starting on the next flop?
Have they even fulfilled everyone's order before starting on the next flop?
BayAreaVapologist
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From what I hear, no. Probably same experience. Place order and wait years down the road for the product and finding you're fucked. Every communication I've had with them about the Lux vaporizer had been in the tone that their product is exceptional and we are the idiots that don't know how to use it and fingers are pointed elsewhere besides themselves.
If its anything like Neeraj's other ventures it won't be long.
The few meetings I had with him and "his team" (every time was a new team, suspicious) were a joke, had zero interest in function or how it would be built, He literally preferred a sanded block of wood with zero functionality as a better prototype than the functional prototype I produced. A total joke and didnt give 2 shits about the future customers, just wanted my Thermovape contacts (he didnt get any) and for it to look "like modern tobacco pipe"
Don't forget the first IndieGoGo campaign spectacularly failed, all the donors were loto labs employees/friends and their own money. But just ran it again with a paid ad campaign and got people to bite. Really poor business practices IMHO.
The few meetings I had with him and "his team" (every time was a new team, suspicious) were a joke, had zero interest in function or how it would be built, He literally preferred a sanded block of wood with zero functionality as a better prototype than the functional prototype I produced. A total joke and didnt give 2 shits about the future customers, just wanted my Thermovape contacts (he didnt get any) and for it to look "like modern tobacco pipe"
Don't forget the first IndieGoGo campaign spectacularly failed, all the donors were loto labs employees/friends and their own money. But just ran it again with a paid ad campaign and got people to bite. Really poor business practices IMHO.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
I have been, and always will be, a force for good concerning what my health/and/or/pain dictates in my reality. There is no amount of pain, or circumstance, or money, that would allow me to be a shill for any company . .. period.
Neeraj has contacted me concerning the launch of the "Legend" on FC but has been very quiet, and mysterious, about what he exactly wants from me. I do not trust him, and never will.
I still use the Lux for vaping pure, anhydrous, CBD, isolate crystals, however I am moving to oral, CBD products.
The "Legend" is just an attempt to copy the VaporBrothers VB2.5, combined with a hydrotube like on the VXL EVO.
Long live Linus and Seibo Shen .. .
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Oh geezus I just saw the "legend"
He must be making up for something with how large these things are, couldn't it be the size of a redbul with all that "technology"...
"6 power settings"..... seems like a downgrade from an enail that measures in a few hundred degrees.
He must be making up for something with how large these things are, couldn't it be the size of a redbul with all that "technology"...
"6 power settings"..... seems like a downgrade from an enail that measures in a few hundred degrees.
BayAreaVapologist
New Member
LOL
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Finally found a path to get it to work as we expected:
- first, forget the ugly plastic mp, great new, isn't it?!
- second, forget the big glass capsules included
- third, find a Ilite vaporizer (very, very cheap if still available) and dismantle it to convert in a sort of Vaponic
- fourth, place a small amount of mesh in the bottom of the Ilite bowl and cut a susceptor at 3/4 length
- fifth, place the susceptor+wax in the Ilite bowl, add the rivet and I use a small amount of hemp fiber I place in the bottom of the glass test tube just under the rivet+susceptor will be
- sixth, insert the Ilite and enjoy smooth, tasty and BIGGER dense clouds!!
I think this is works better cause 2 things:
- the airflow is a lot more restricted, this is helps to keep the susceptor hot enough and it's easier on the throat.
- the maller bowl/capsule helps to keep the oil close of the heated susceptor
I'm not anymore under the impression I'm wasting my meds now!
IMPORTANT: I have to test but I'm afraid this mod will not work with the Vaponic cause the outer tube is an hair wider than the Ilite one although I think we can find the right sized test tube @Abysmal Vapor ...??
- first, forget the ugly plastic mp, great new, isn't it?!
- second, forget the big glass capsules included
- third, find a Ilite vaporizer (very, very cheap if still available) and dismantle it to convert in a sort of Vaponic
- fourth, place a small amount of mesh in the bottom of the Ilite bowl and cut a susceptor at 3/4 length
- fifth, place the susceptor+wax in the Ilite bowl, add the rivet and I use a small amount of hemp fiber I place in the bottom of the glass test tube just under the rivet+susceptor will be
- sixth, insert the Ilite and enjoy smooth, tasty and BIGGER dense clouds!!
I think this is works better cause 2 things:
- the airflow is a lot more restricted, this is helps to keep the susceptor hot enough and it's easier on the throat.
- the maller bowl/capsule helps to keep the oil close of the heated susceptor
I'm not anymore under the impression I'm wasting my meds now!
IMPORTANT: I have to test but I'm afraid this mod will not work with the Vaponic cause the outer tube is an hair wider than the Ilite one although I think we can find the right sized test tube @Abysmal Vapor ...??
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Here some pics of my mod mentionned in the previous post, first the Ilite used like a Vaponic+susceptor and rivet (sorry for the shaddy shadow):
And here the same but dismantled:
And here inserted in the Lux:
Sorry but I'm really bad with pics, in the last pic there is a short amount of silicone tubing cause the glass mp is so short you're blocking air inlet with lips (air inlet is a tiny channel in the recycled paper between outer and inner tube àla Vaponic).
I can even milk a watertool with great success, it wasn't possible with the original designed capsule and mp (and a bit awkward too).
No more leaking issue if you don't overload it but I use shatter/wax/rosin but nothing very runny (I used it a few linutes before to take the pic.
Efficient, a lot more than before. No more unvaped oil and works well with smaller load, even very small!
Usually I use my unit set at 60% heat for tasty hits and small/medium clouds size and my other Lux set at 100% heat for clouds and milky hits.
The Lux found a place in my routine now, I use it daily or close.... (I'm not affiliated with them and I supported the IG campaign with a 2 units perc, I just was under the feeling it was possible to use it in a better manner)
And here the same but dismantled:
And here inserted in the Lux:
Sorry but I'm really bad with pics, in the last pic there is a short amount of silicone tubing cause the glass mp is so short you're blocking air inlet with lips (air inlet is a tiny channel in the recycled paper between outer and inner tube àla Vaponic).
I can even milk a watertool with great success, it wasn't possible with the original designed capsule and mp (and a bit awkward too).
No more leaking issue if you don't overload it but I use shatter/wax/rosin but nothing very runny (I used it a few linutes before to take the pic.
Efficient, a lot more than before. No more unvaped oil and works well with smaller load, even very small!
Usually I use my unit set at 60% heat for tasty hits and small/medium clouds size and my other Lux set at 100% heat for clouds and milky hits.
The Lux found a place in my routine now, I use it daily or close.... (I'm not affiliated with them and I supported the IG campaign with a 2 units perc, I just was under the feeling it was possible to use it in a better manner)
dingus
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I don't think I'll ever be getting mine even though I was within the first 50. I really upset Neeraj that much that he was willing to steal from me. Just by posting information that was public domain that proved he was wasting some of our money on recreation, along with his contact information he shared when he went silent for 4-5 months (probably more) with no promised updates. What a waste of 100 and something dollars and so petty. I had a feeling it was going to happened when he banned me from the Indiegogo campaign.If I ever do get mine, I'll donate mine to the FC community as well. And t-dub, I hope you're feeling well these days bro!!! Much love your way.
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I thought I would be in the first 15
I ordered a "Early Bird Evoke (Loose Leaf)" on June 11, 2014 for $79 USD.
If they're going by order date, I should've been contacted along with the first 15. But they haven't communicated anything to me this year yet. I'm guessing that it's the "loose leaf" part that made them decide to skip me over. They could have at least reached out and told me.
I'm loose leaf too, so if grokit still hasn't got theirs, maybe I'm in the same boat. That gives me some hope!
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is that clothing brand seriously affiliated with loto labs? is it fucked up that i like one or two of their shoes?
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t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Thanks man . . . I really appreciate that . .. I'm struggling through Hyperbaric oxygen therapy right now to reduce inflammation in my body and maintain my existence. I really appreciate your kind thoughts.. .
dingus
Well-Known Member
Thanks man . . . I really appreciate that . .. I'm struggling through Hyperbaric oxygen therapy right now to reduce inflammation in my body and maintain my existence. I really appreciate your kind thoughts.. .
I really hope it's helping. How's your appetite if you don't mind me asking? In no way shape or form am I trying to compete with you (there is no competition), but when I was 17 I developed epilepsy (Juvenile Myoclonic Epilepsy) and still am in my 20's.. It's produced more pain in my life than I think the average person goes through in their entire life-span, when you think about how it effects familiar and friend-relationships, along with the deep, dark depression, guilt and loneliness that comes with it, and then finally coping with the illness itself.
The only reason I mention my issue is because I want you to know I may be younger, I may be suffering from something completely different than you, but I empathize with you deeply and know how much these things suck. I know how much staying in the hospital sucks. I also know how strong things like this makes us. And how strong you must be to be going through what you are. Don't ever forget you're strong, don't give up. I don't know you too well outside of this thread, but you've always seemed like a great person. I'm going to keep you in my prayers and seriously hope you get better dude. People really take being healthy for granted, I know I did.
I hope I didn't offend with this comment, it wasn't my intention. I'm so sorry you're going through this. Get better t-dub.
Well Neraj just said it in his stream, the LUX is no longer supported... WTF...
sickmanfraud
Well-Known Member
P. T. Barnum is reported to be the first to say "There is a sucker born every minute...
I am not saying anyone is a sucker (I have no "skin" in the game). Just a reason many of us hope for....More questions than answers tonight.
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
This is pretty insane.
Especially if they haven’t even delivered all promised items. and those they have sent don’t seem to work without significant modification. (If at all).
And especially if they are now releasing a new vape. I certainly wouldn’t trust them to invest any money at this point... they clearly do not stand behind their products.
Do you think people actually buy them? I can't really imagine they are going to sell a lot. They also didn't send me any dry herb capsules although I ordered them but are selling two for 49 dollars in their store. I hope that no one will buy their products
Baron23
Well-Known Member
Dunno....but as often said, there's a sucker born every minute....and I know 'cause I have been one on more than one occasion. LOL
sickmanfraud
Well-Known Member
Great minds think alike. See my post 4 above yours.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Please guys, be quiet, I know some guys took the plunge and they will not post here if you think they are "suckers"!!
Somebody told me he got one and he doesn't seems very satisfied mainly cause it seems you dab directly from stainless steel.... shaddy isn't it? Although he can saw some mod but it's bad a so pricey unit doesn't comes with several options for dabbing.
Personnaly I'll get one for testing and further review very soon...
Somebody told me he got one and he doesn't seems very satisfied mainly cause it seems you dab directly from stainless steel.... shaddy isn't it? Although he can saw some mod but it's bad a so pricey unit doesn't comes with several options for dabbing.
Personnaly I'll get one for testing and further review very soon...
Mr. Gweilo 420
Dude
Only a sucker would pay this company twice.
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Thanks for your consideration, the guy I spoke about wasn't in the Lux game. Personnaly I supported them with a 2 units perc but I didn't payed for the Legend since it's a review unit although I'll review it like if I had payed for it, 500$ is a high price so I have high expectations (and maybe big disappointments!).
