Life Saber (LSV) by Elev8 Vehicles

hoptimum

Well-Known Member
I use the same...



Just load the bowl, drop the lsv on top and rip for fun



Yep...



You can just see the bottom of the elb sitting at the end of the frosted glass part, I normally fill the elb around half way and finish it in 2-3 lung busters :science: always comes out nice and even with a stir after the first hit, or if only loading enough for 1 nice hit no need to stir.

I'm a convert. The ELB in the M2M WPA is my new favorite method. Insane extraction from 1/3 bowl in a single rip.
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
We are still ironing out the wrinkles with a 7th Floor discount for you guys and here's where we are now...

-no more code at checkout.
-click the link in my sig to get a 10% automatic discount without dealing with me.
-private message me to put together something that gets you a better deal.

Thanks and holler at me with any questions!
 
Hey fellow LSV owners I need help. My cord is starting to tear right at the base. For now I've wrapped it with electrical tape but I don't think is a permanent solution. I've read about a cord tension release that may solve this issue.
But I'm wondering now how bad this is. Do I send it back to 7th floor or just continue to vape with the electrical tape covering the wires. I'm pretty bummed to see that this morning...must have happened last night.
 
I just wanted to write this and send some love to stickstones!

I decided to finally get a serious vaporizer after having an Arizer solo for the past 14 months. I had an LSV before but I had to give it away because of reasons Im not proud of.

So I thought maybe I should check out FC forums and the LSV thread to see if their are any promotions.

Low and behold stickstones has a post with 3 options. Hmmmmmm I thought to myself. I do not really know if its legit but who knows lets try it out. (Mind you I am extra paranoid and I have not read or looked at the thread for about 2 years.)

So I went with option number 3 and pm'ed him last sunday (1/10). After talking to him for a bit about my story and what I was looking for he sent an invoice to my email and we were off to the races.

I got a forwarded a shipping notification the following Wednesday (1/13) and I just took delivery today Monday (1/18)!

Needless to say I am extra satisfied and I would definitely recommend checking in my stickstones if your looking at any 7th floor products!

(Re-united and it feels so good!!!)
 

stickstones

Vapor concierge
Hey fellow LSV owners I need help. My cord is starting to tear right at the base. For now I've wrapped it with electrical tape but I don't think is a permanent solution. I've read about a cord tension release that may solve this issue.
But I'm wondering now how bad this is. Do I send it back to 7th floor or just continue to vape with the electrical tape covering the wires. I'm pretty bummed to see that this morning...must have happened last night.

I think that's worth a shout out to 7th Floor for a repair estimate. They have a strain relief option, but some members here have reported it starting to tear even with that on there.
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
Got destroyed last night using @DDave 's mod, haha.
Had the wand out, packed, ready to do more experimenting...I just sat there looking at it for 5-10 minutes and ended up putting it away and going to sleep, haha.

The temps are super touchy, still need to perfect that.

The LSV is a beast!
My friends don't seem to get the same results I do so they don't like it as much .... but....doesn't affect me from getting fat lung busters that make my legs shake and my abs hurt ;)
If I don't leave a rip with a tear in my eye, I ain't doin it right!
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
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Just makes it too easy to vape. Too too easy.
 

vapeguy

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After a few years and so many self repairs I've lost count I think my LSV is ready for the garbage. I've had to fix the electrical wire where it enters the LSV more times than I can remember, I don't know how someone without electrical knowledge could use this until the first time the wire breaks which wasn't very long at all (before you ask, I do have the improved model that was supposed to fix this but clearly doesn't).

I truly consider the LSV dangerous to use because of this electrical flaw and if I hadn't repaired it so many times each time the cable insulation starts cracking I likely would have electrocuted myself or stared a fire.

Has the LSV had any further improvement to stop the wire from breaking where it enters the body? I think they need to switch to an entirely different cable type and add a strain relief, I have never had any other electrical appliance where the cable insulation cracks every few months.

On top of that, the part with the heating element that holds the glass apparently broke loose and now wobbles freely inside the metal body.

This was a great vape but the problem with the insulation cracking is beyond unacceptable considering how dangerous it can be (has anyone been electrocuted, killed or had a fire started with an LSV? I'd be very surprised if not, in fact I think I remember reading reports of this in this thread).

I was already considering getting a better vape and now that my LSV is a useless paperweight I have no choice.
 

howie105

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I haven't had a problem with my current LSV as far as the cord goes but the heater has always been a bit wonky. I think it comes down to having the same basic components used throughout the entire desktop product range. If the parts we a bit more specifically engineered to the model in hand it might be better but the cost per unit goes up too.
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
Been loving low temps with the lsv. The airflow makes it difficult to milk, but that vapor is thin and continuous and can still lead to lung busters.
My heater is BARELY glowing, if anything just white, and I'm using DDaves mod.
A .06-.08 pack can last over 5 hits on low temps and brown-yellows very very evenly.
I've noticed the slower the draw with the lsv, the more even the burn. I think this is because when you pull quicker, more air is forced through the center of the herb and doesn't have enough time to heat all of it and not what's mostly towards the center (of the heater).

Either way, those low temps are awesome to wake up to. I'll try to get some vids once I get my good bubbler back (friend broke my d020d so now I'm stuck with a little headshop basic single stem slit bubbler.
 

howie105

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You might try low temperature dry hits with the LSV. Some find the hits are not too harsh and the hits a bit more favourable. I prefer a dry stem not only for the precise air flow/flavour but also because it cuts down on glass cleaning and the chances of glass breakage, I a glass assassin.

Edit... I see you went with the larger silicone tube fitted into the M2M adapter. It really is a nice easy way to have a dry stem with decent air flow and less chance of glass breakage.
 
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AJS

Calm Consistency
@howie105
Haha, I've never broken any glass before so I'm not too concerned, although my friends could follow that advice. Ha!
I use DDaves mini stem almost half the time and it's awesome. Smaller male end so it slides in and out real easy. It can be a bit harsh on the throat but I'm training myself to adjust and it's working quite well. Never thought I'd end up putting my Nano in the drawer and using the lsv with stems and low temps like this. Haha.
Don't get me wrong, love my nano, and I'm not even sure what keeps bringing me back to the lsv .. Maybe cuz it's new .. But something always brings me back.
 

howie105

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Both the LSV and the Nano share some of the same attributes (power, simplicity, etc) but they are different enough to fill some different usage niches. So I keep switching back and forth between the two of them too. It is like I tell my wife, I am not indecisive I am spoiled, there is a difference.
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
I agree @howie105
The Nano will always be more flavorful for me through water, and so whenever I really want a tasty strain to come through while wanting milks, I'll use the Nano.
But for now, I'm enjoying this super sweet blue dream through the lsv stem on low temp and it just keeps going

Edit: About 10 hits in on this .05-.07 or so basket and the flavor hasn't changed a bit.
The vapor has been thin every hit, but with taste this good who would ever care.
 
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vapeguy

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I contacted 7th floor about my LSV falling apart after just a few years and having to repair it about 10 times in the few years I had it and haven't heard back.

For those that had the LSV and used it daily for 4 years or so, have you also had the wire insulation break where it enters the body (I do have the one with the strain relief)? The wire probably cracked about 10 times at that location. In addition I had the metal plate that holds the heating element break free from the body but steel epoxy has fixed that. My heating element again became loose/wobbly so I thought my epoxy broke free after 2 years but when I checked the glue is still rock solid and the plate isn't moving, it's now the heating element that moves freely inside the metal plate where it enters the body and this seems unfixable. I checked all 3 screws at the base and they all seem tight.

This vape looked rock solid but is quite fragile despite its appearance. Have others had similar issues after a few years of daily use?

I was actually considering getting a Da Buddha as a temporary/backup vape but with the manufacturer not responding and the poor durability of their products I'm not sure I would get another 7th floor vape.

I'm already decided on going back to the Volcano as I know it will last for decades as I've had one for many many years before and I don't want to end up with another $250 vape that will break in a few years. If you consider durability, the Volcano costs a lot less than the LSV as it may be 3 times the price but will without a doubt last way more than 3 times longer.
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
I contacted 7th floor about my LSV falling apart after just a few years and having to repair it about 10 times in the few years I had it and haven't heard back.
I get amazing results from them when I just call, very sympathetic when it comes to issues, and very encouraging when it comes to repairs.

I've heard of people here who's LSV's have held up against quite a bit, including falling from one's lap multiple times and still being fine.

I am extremely careful with my cord, and it is never curled nor bent nor strained in any way shape or form.

I got my LSV for $120, and would buy 3 of them over the course of 10 years and wouldn't care at all. It is such an amazing product, and saying that JUST because of durability you'll go for the volcano is saying that you'll miss out on a lot of potential simply because of one positive of the volcano. 7th Floor does A LOT of things better than S&B can, and vice versa.

Plus I get all tingly for glass vape path ;)

Edit:
Something ironically humorous to add to this...my first lsv broke within 1 hour of use. ha!
On my second now for a few months and everything is flawless of course.
Only time will tell.
 

vapeguy

Well-Known Member
I get amazing results from them when I just call, very sympathetic when it comes to issues, and very encouraging when it comes to repairs.

I've heard of people here who's LSV's have held up against quite a bit, including falling from one's lap multiple times and still being fine.

I am extremely careful with my cord, and it is never curled nor bent nor strained in any way shape or form.

I got my LSV for $120, and would buy 3 of them over the course of 10 years and wouldn't care at all. It is such an amazing product, and saying that JUST because of durability you'll go for the volcano is saying that you'll miss out on a lot of potential simply because of one positive of the volcano. 7th Floor does A LOT of things better than S&B can, and vice versa.

Plus I get all tingly for glass vape path ;)

Edit:
Something ironically humorous to add to this...my first lsv broke within 1 hour of use. ha!
On my second now for a few months and everything is flawless of course.
Only time will tell.

I just emailed them again to give them a 2nd chance but noticed the contact form shows no confirmation once you send the message, I'm wondering if their contact form actually works or if I'm wasting my time using it.

I also am careful with the cord considering I have to cut and repair it every few months but it keeps happening.

My reasons for going back to the Volcano are far from just durability, it has real temp control, it makes much denser and more consistent vapor without ever combusting (which seems to happen more and more with my LSV which hits me like a brick wall). It also can hold significantly more herb than the LSV for when I want very strong vapor or don't want to reload multiple times (and still works with small amounts). Having used both (LSV for about 4 years and Volcano for over 5 years) I think I'll be much happier going back to the Volcano.

What is it that broke on your LSV the first time?
 
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