Kind MD Vapes

[invisiblefriend]

above will be dropping this week my friends -- for use with our newest "slim" base !
It is an amazing tool to add to the collection or the ideal spot to start !

I do not want to jump too far ahead as well --- but we already are finalizing ...the next generation / .... dropping @ end of summer - these items will actually be wider as opposed to the "slim" so the load amount will depend on the size of the cartridge by the end of summer -the client will have a nice selection of choices and preferences !
- but currently we use our standard or small cartridge to fit the slim .... I cannot believe I'm calling these small ! lol -- i never thought I would due to large size already ....
- but yes -- there will be larger ones for our 2nd model release ! (dont let it hold you up due to the fact that it will always fit all our devices / cartridges -- and we will be offering an unheard of Kind MD / FC program that will save on the 2nd device upon release --- getting it to our fans for nothing but cost ! ) more on that as the week & sale moves forward !
- although I say it is our "small " cartridge / head it is larger and most important deeper than any others I see out and about in the marketplace --- this will be a client preference and will depend on the material used and the type ---
lets assume we are starting with our single airstone titanium head --- It can hold a lot due to how deep it goes and the extra cap -- and running it low at 3.5 - 3.8 will keep taste through out ! but the more it goes above the wick -- We have always found that this can cause some bubbling due to the oil being liquid state , warm and high above the wick ---
-but -- please remember the airstone REALLY REALLY ACTS LIKE A TRUE WICK & holds the liquid (a nice amount) at a nice temperature ! -- and we just sourced a brand new airstone that is larger than anything out there -- its a special white airstone after the kiln burn with an amazing diameter and more room to hold the pure parts of the oil --keeping anything else away
You will notice when the oil gets to the even point of the wick --- it starts pumping out clouds like crazy -- and goes on n on n on -- even when you would swear it was almost gone 10 hits or more ago by appearance --
But the fact that the suction pulls the oil from inside the airstone to touch the titanium 2 is amazing once you get used to it and think about the science of it --- and at this point amazing clouds, performance and boy does it conserve !!!!! and it makes so much sense with the wicking material !

back to ceramic 4 a moment -getting into it deeper it makes sense how the ceramic donut eats up the oil -I love the ceramic and will FINALLY master the cartridge for our industry ! but a few things we r trying to solve in a perfect way --
-- not only due to hot hot temps -- but no wicking to hold it in place as well so it just pools up n gets hot ! -- its either super hot n vaping up or its sitting on the heat and losing properties as it disappears ---
(*yes I love the fact it cleans itself to a degree and leaves nothing behind ???? but yes no gunk left ??? but where did the gunk go ?? I'm looking more and lore into some new concepts -- exciting methods ! amazing tools ! -- a lot thanks to you all for telling us exactly what you want -- and what you would love to see ! -- I just find we need a few extra steps with the ceramic disc and I'm very very close -- but the coils -- they are at an incredible point in technology ! )

** news ** From tests and the last year and half of developing the MD-72 top selling glacier wicks that got us started in the actual medical industry ! It really educated us and showed us the road ! and new announcement --- after a new product being finalized -- the MD-72 has now been picked up by a SEEGO company and will soon be available exclusively in some SEEGO products !

@Skored
I loved reading about your current set-up --- I have been doing ceramic tests for the last 8 months -- we have tried so many combinations / types / ohm's / shape & setup - and our newest and most successful method .....shhhhhhhhhh (ill be announcing soon) - I can put a photo up of our basic one which is the same cup as the single coil rod but has the donut inside instead ) still needs some adjustments 4 our friends ! We kinda figured let all the ceramic donuts get put out thur by the current market and we can sweep by in the summer and have a top quality #1 ceramic element - on a new separate level !

- as far as the ceramic in general--- its super for many reasons -- (OUR NEW ONES BASICALLY SELF CLEAN -- I PUMP IT UP TO 5VOLTS AND THE DARKNESS TURNS BACK TO THE BLEACHED WHITE ORIGiNAL COLOR ! -- i really really dig this part n will find a way to make this a standard once we get it right !
It is a tough one for portability due to the true hot hot heat from most ! certainly need special insulation which we will have as part of our ceramic cartridge -- and please do not forget
-- it will fit in the same spot as all our other heads -- so you will be able to jump from a single titaium2 coil air stone or ceramic wick -- swap to the ceramic cartridge --
then to the dual coil "super airstone" (this new airstone soaks almost 30 percent more material than the ones currently out on the market --- these are made special 4 Kind MD == )

They use these materials -- the new airstone as well as the ceramic heating elements for many purposes in the Medical / Surgical Manufacturer industry ---- my brother based in Germany have helped so much ! thx -- They have a new look on things and it has brought some great ideas to the table and Im so excited to share at the right time ...

back to the ceramic again -- we have been trying to perfect it due to the initial taste being so nice -- during the first 2 hits or so of course --- yet unfortunately the heat gets too high too quick and does not dissipate on these units - they stay hot/dangerously hot 4 too long and because of this ...... all terpenes / flavor disappear very fast and at times due to high temps even the thc/medicine have been ruined/ burnt off- no longer reclaim ) ( this is also why they r so much better for herb and dry material as opposed to oil / wax ) but they do offer some amazing clean taste --and clean high ! -- the reason I want to find the perfect design solution !

We have been working hard hand in hand with Germany with the OHM changes and a totally different design in many ways -- using different fixes for the extra heat and the other issues --- we have come up with some very successful solutions---

the one issue we are still trying to work out is using the ceramic heating units for large amounts --- due to the heat damaging the taste and the thc types / or levels after the 1st / 2nd pull ......we need to either accept the ceramic heating device has a beautiful taste but maybe should just be for small go n load situations! no .3 or .5 --(.1 . .2 ) - unless wasting half of the oil taste IMO huge sacrifice IMO ( I happen to really like the taste of my medicines ) so this is high up on my list --

we are solving this problem with different solutions from extra air flow for cool down -- to so much in between --- hush hush stuff 4 now ---
I feel very strongly about this technology being incredible for this purpose and you will see a very similar application for one of our main medical "Home Kind MD devices" -- but that uses cooling functions and other items we have room to do this indoors box -- but yes we will also continue to develop and get the "on tha go" cartridge to hopefully hold more in the future --- Unfortunately even when we add more space or room for the concentrate -- the heat is too much --- we have even tried a separate compartment far away from heat source but the intense direct ceramic heat still reaches all over

But we currently have load n go ready .3 currently (ceramic heating) but we will not be selling these yet --------- another example of how we will NOT ever be using the market as a test ---
we will get everything as perfect as we can and then push a product out from thur ---
- we will have a thermal cover for these high heat situations--- but honestly want a more scientific solution and we almost thur !
Ill put a photo up later of the current ceramic disc -- but it will be just like many on the market since it is just another test unit

My bad to go onto other items we still working on --- (i never realized I would have to focus at so much st once -- instead of step by step --- ) but its a MUST n fast paced -- but I WILL not put items out too fast ! --
******************** we just decided to use FC as a place we can document as we move ahead into the future !
Kinda like a journal with our g00d friends throwing out kind props n incredible ideas !

thank you --- huge updates about to drop ---- and anyone still awaiting answers that I started touching on -- I will get to everyone / and item by the end of weekend !

peace n respect

 

[mixchu69]

I like the fact that you did not try to reinvent the wheel, but use quality parts with the classic blueprint. Please send us a link where we can purchase.

 

[invisiblefriend]

@mixchu69 thank you my friend !

Means a lot coming from you ! and thank you for reading between the lines and seeing our plan ---
We just want to make available the best possible group of true medicinal items out here in the medicinal vape scene -- making all items " tried and true " -- and without just copying what is out thur (instead - DEVELOPING FURTHER to another level for us all ! ) ...
. we decided we can create every part in the chain fairly easy if we plan it step by step ---- giving us opportunity to learn / make honest mistakes in - house and then make final products exactly the way we like with top notch / fine grade materials and quality design -- in the end IMO allowing us to come out with a better product --- yes it has gotten more expensive for me getting started and yes I had to absorb some losses $$$ and I tripped a few times already but its for the best cause ! and if I trip -- I get back up and continue forward with the amazing community around me !
--no worry too -- (these losses/any losses we at times may have to deal with will never get passed onto the customer/friend! Never ! ) this has all been factored into the development process and we are able to still help local collectives !
I honestly feel if I enjoy and feel healthy along with my collective and friends while using our products -- well - thats good enough -- but if we can help others with our products and ideas -- even better !

Yes of course we are very serious about a few new concepts and brand new ideas but I will be the first to admit I have learned alot by watching the industry tops and of course true science as well - --- It is OK to take really good technology and make it better on many levels --- everything we touch has room for improvement -- then -- using my own ideas and many incredible suggestions from you all and many past fails we move forward with existing technology as we touch on the edge of the next best thing !
-- and with our logic of -- kinda just trying to build a better mousetrap for our loved ones -- yet not in the cheapest way - instead In the healthiest way and by using the best results to help in giving us the positive vibes to move forward with each item !
thank you all so very much

I look forward to continuing to offer our special equipment to all our friends --

http://kindmdvapes.com


Our Website "should" be up today (I'm finishing a few parts so a lil delay I'm sure ) --- but it is looking like it may be a couple more days till its just right the way I like ---- and we will begin selling our products on our new site by Friday !!!!!!! --
(goodbye ebay ! LOL ) super excitement to say bye bye to them - but they certainly helped get us started with our MD-72 single & double coils --- selling those titanium heads out every time I got in a new box without even advertising ??? thank you I thank everyone for the support that got us to this point --- and thank the Glacier users for adapting to our aftermarket tools !!!!!!!! and thank you to Seego for accepting and continuing the KindMD MD-72 for the new water device they gunna drop !

Hope all are having a super weekend !

Peace and respect

and back to the lab ! ( i promised to test the amount we feel they will comfortably hold )

the more I think about it --- Im thinking it will probably be nice to keep 2 or 3 heads at a time with cap on each -- and as each is finished -- one will get through a huge group session -- and then you swap heads for session 2 - so - on -- so on ---
--- then it gives you the opportunity to do a qwik clean every night or so -- keeping all items in next 2 new condition - and then use the multiple head cycle for each day ?

I have been testing this method using the metal cap and a rubber cap just in case (right now I have a runny oil) again a good reason for the airstone as it sucks in the concentrate nicely

this is just an idea I'm testing with using multiple heads @ a time --- ill let everyone know the individual volume later but will also keep posted on how the swapping works out ----

Peace and respect all

 

[invisiblefriend]

@Neicey76

thk u 4 kind words and past business ! I have a few Md-72's ill get out to you especially since it was a fellow FC member making that bulk order ! thank you !

but thx 4 holding off on anything new -- the full Kind MD site and our first full unit will be shipping by the end of week if all lines up & it should
I have 8/10ths of everything in-house --- and a crazy collection of test units I'm starting to lose mind with -- lol .. J/K

-- I have some reports I want to discuss about future products and ideas as well as current industry trends
***** I almost forgot ---- we did many volume tests and have some interesting but great results ! *************

as I mention I love the level that the ceramic can take us and I want to master -- I think the temp control along with a vessel to keep the material separate maybe or keep from staying so hot in between hits -- but I then start to question if it is still vaping @ all? Lets not forget it cleans itself by burning the residue up -- the first few hits are so nice but then it gets to a different burnt taste imo -- in most SOLO tests with high temps have given these results -- we have been having new luck though !

yes the old technique can leave gunk from time to time (regular cleaning and swapping heads can keep this from occurring) -- but the purer oil will always help with this -- we did a lot of testing in Washington and the company used had such pure oil it was amazing and obvious it was vaporizing at normal low temperatures !



You guys in the right spots would be amazed what we have to do in some areas to keep our medicine clean -- or would be disgusted to see what the dirty stuff can do to any equipment we have -- (tri-state 4 sure unless you in correct circle)

but even the dirtiest evaporate to nothing with the ceramic at the 800 plus temps ! but solutions are our specialty and we are taking those import and steps b4 releasing that particular head piece !
This head like others we produce will fit both new base pieces!

thank you and hope the weekend giving u a gr8 time !

 

[710]

I used to use a Glacier. I don't like silica/fiberglass strand wick for my oil, so I stopped using it. It was fun though, seeing the smoke come out of 9 holes, and swirl around like a Helix pipe. I'm very happy to see this same kind of thing on a better coil setup.

After you get proper production going, I hope you can get this mainstream, to knock out all the shitty GPens/countless clones of other devices. Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, whatever.

Everything looks to be coming together nicely... this picture doesn't show any visible solder/metal wavy stuff that's in every cartridge (what even is it? I've asked before and can't get a straight answer) so I am impressed with that. Make sure you test that disc like crazy, I know a few of those kinds of vapes have been known to crack, and when ceramic cracks, it puts microscopic sharp particles in your lungs that can be damaging. Yes I've nitpicked about in every one of my posts, but that's our job as FC members!

Hope to be using one soon, so I can experience the next generation of tasty portable concentrate vaporization. You guys have a web team?

EDIT: You say you have trouble with impure concentrate sometimes... why not try the Ice Wax or the Rosin method? I'm glad I live in Washington, home of apples and coffee, and perfect climate for bud. And legitimate laboratories who have the art of hash oil down to a literal science.

 

[invisiblefriend]

My good friends .... so much has been going on --- (it seems something new every day -- ) and a chess game as to what move to make first

but we care about our customers first ! ForeMost ! the more going on in our studio -- the better for us all !

I am going to make this kinda short and tmro gunna hit on everything else -- thank you all 4 the amazing support ! that is what keeps me going forward !

-update === OUR BATTERY WILL BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF WEEK .. -- SOOO SHIPPING OF KindMD BATTERIES WE HOPE WITHIN 2 WEEKS at the most (more info tmro)
(just finishing packaging)

We have been thinking about simply doing a small release to our closest friends / past customers for our new "slim" design and we will make it a very affordable premium kit -
- maybe only shipping the original 1000 in stock -

we also will be releasing our next generation pretty soon (everyone remember all heads will be interchangeable which is so key moving forward) --
- also - this new design works incredible with the water filtration ...........

so much testing going on-- but things are coming together so very well !
- n this is allowing us to try and stay ahead of the technology !



I will be getting the beta kits out any day -- I will confirm b4 sending out my friends !

I hope everyone has been signing up for the new http://kindmdvapes.com website -- It is still not up fully yet but all emails will be getting an automatic discount ontop of FC discount !
I will be sending out codes at the end of week --

I was hoping the site and all would be up and running on Friday -- it is still possible but there still may be a few day delay ---
We do apologize for this and if we can accommodate anyone in the meantime plz let me know and we will work it out 4 sure !

peace and respect


Invisible Friend

 

[710]

You guys seem to be doing a lot at one time. Multiple products, plus a battery... crazy. As always, thanks for the updates and interaction with FC. Water filtered cartridges always intrigue me. If you can make one that works great, doesn't leak, and is compact, it will truly be an amazing feat.

One worry about the slim design... the mouthpiece doesn't look that comfortable with the jagged edges, and maybe too close to the heat. Looks pretty solid though, so it probably doesn't get hot, unless you fire the fucker for a solid minute. I might just end up slapping a silicon mouthpiece over it, or 3D-printing something.

Can't say too much yet of course. I'll just have to wait until it hits the market to post an in-depth review after a gram of CO2, if I'm still conscious

 

[arrr]

Can't wait to try this atomizer. Just registered on your site.

 

[invisiblefriend]

@710 thank you so much 4 your interest and advice / ideas !!!! ( thk u for noticing the water device mouth top ... -- I have exciting news about that -- ill show you under a shorter msg )
@arrr -- thank u so very much my friend -- ( shoot me PM when u have chance ! )

Yes we are doing a lot at once (sum - times I think maybe I'm nuts -- yet its starting to all make sense -- but I can see how important it is becoming just wish i could clone a few peeps -- so we can be ahead of the game --- we must have our hands in a bunch of areas so we can improve upon, develop or decide to throw away certain technology / etc.-- Kinda like a large think tank --- and I thank you all for your ongoing help -- telling us your needs and wants --- and ideas -- and we will continue to try n make the perfect set up for YOU !

as a perfect example -- so many customers want different items -- n we r trying to offer as many of these as we can -- so there is no more need to keep trying the newest thing -- just to discover its not your style or feel ? ( that is our goal ) ... I did this over n over for too many years on my own ..lol -- soooo I just had to start making my own for me and my circle --
- I'm now honored to make the circle of KIND peeps larger day by day ! Thanks going out 2 everyone on that !
-----
so lets fast forward to recent times --we focusing on using safe & the best materials on the medical tip -- but then we start researching with our customer base & of course ask questions ??? some want the best taste -- others largest clouds -- many just want to put the most medicine in -- and want to pack between .5 - 1g and go --- and we have been experimenting and testing sooo many ideas -- elements -- styles -- sizes -- wide / narrow / short / tall -- lol and this is allowing us to break it down and perfect certain parts 4 certain customer groups --

We find overall -- the titanium2 with airstone method when done correct -- using the actual users pull of the air to draw from below to pull the oil up towards the porous wick and coil instead of just burning oil up with the heat --

This is where we either compromise or make 2 products --- we can make a load as you go --- with a little extra volume due to our wick placement and special new material ... The Load as You GO will always give the best in taste --- IMO -- so far of course --- I feel everyone will realize how great the airstone technology is improving this entire game -- It holds so much inside -- and due to its amazing properties - it keeps the temperature low enough inside to hold the terpenes and other medicine qualities many many doses into the session (we will break down size / technique and other items in a future post ) but I am amazed as I look into the cartridge and see an empty cup --- but still pull 6 doses outa the airstone alone ! (and we just located a new larger airstone (almost 20 percent larger)
so we excited about those future tests !!!!) again that is in between load as you go and an all day oil can IMO ...

but still working on making a larger oil can without losing taste --- (we will see this coming soon enough -- and you will recognize it from the past --- sometimes using original technology and mixing with new -- hint hint -- -- of course this is for future reference -- not in testing yet !

SO MaNY TIMES I THOUGHT WE were about to BUILd THE BETTER technology ... recently I was really very happy with the ceramic disk (also another shape that we will try next)
-- and we had 4 different types we were testing -- At first we were so happy -- the tests went great in house and out in the collectives .... but within a week I realized a huge issue -it ate up oil like bad magic !- it will never be able to hold a lot or keep more than a nice hit or 2 without ruining /wasting product .... Of course you could add as much as you wanted -- and we tried so many configurations -- and it always gave great taste for the first hit - n maybe the 2nd hit --
but after that -- no matter what -- due to many factors that we tried to correct - the ceramic keeps the heat insulated & inside (and no way around this yet ???) hot hot hot -- n the heat stays -- ouch ouch hot hot hot !!!!!!!
so the bottom line is after hit one -- most of the taste and nice medicinal properties have been removed due to the heat ---
(the ceramic holds heat inside too much 4 this application IMO) -- so that many times after stopping the vape session and opening the screw top -- I would look into the cartridge and it would still be bubbling / oil boiling practically or still releasing vapor even 10 seconds after turning off -- just showing this method is only good for a hit at a time IMO --- maybe 2 tasty ones
now this will rid your medicine of many properties and takes taste away too quickly --
we have been finding other issues as well with this set up --- -- -- positive side is the health issues are not an issue - no worries about particle talk and such -no doubt safe to use longterm and high temps (again bringing up the fact --- are we really vaping when we get to these temps ? and if we are is it as enjoyable ? or worth it ? ) - but for this purpose of wax/oil -- I think it will be a great heating element and technology to use we just are not thur yet ??? - -I feel it must be used in a different way -- a completely different way ---
- We originally only thought about this application for our home unit -- since there is much more control with temperature and dosing as well --- (can keep parts further away and insulate better / even add cooling fans ) otherwise as I mentioned it eats up oil too quickly in this format -- and I think for on the go it should stick to dry herbs not oils -- unless you are ok doing 1 or 2 hits a time and reloading --
(another huge positive is how nice ceramic cleans up -- )

but as the entire industry started to get into the ceramic game as if it was new for 2015 -- not new ...
it has been re-purposed for 2015 and we almost followed the lead n pushed it further to release -- but after all the feedback we have gotten from our testers and my own feelings/experience --
we were able to put a hold on it -- and not release another item to the market that IMO isn't ready -- (i hope some other companies / friends are able to advance this technology ! -- we want us all to survive ! )
I have seen recently reports of new items and new companies using the ceramic disks --- I hope they have figured it out and respect 2 all of them ... this repost was from my own testing and other collective testing of our products ---
I hope these new ones r onto something -- I look forward to learning from each other out here in this amazing fast moving industry - much respect

I hope and feel ceramic will be a great tool for our future since it is so versatile -- but with current options the industry is not ready for the wax / ceramic element -- We will still keep trying we promise -- but we will be putting a hold on releasing ceramic elements to the wax market until we feel some important changes have been made -- and being honest we have not been able to get it to a point where we can stand behind it --- so we will just put it into our research room for the temporary time being

and we march forward !

I thought we were starting our online sales today -- small delay / hiccup due to a mistake in todays german glass delivery -- (I was worried as I shook the large fedex box and heard so much broken glass -- but then after opening seeing it was even worse -- all 1000 pieces 2mm too tight and 6mm too short ????)
makes no sense -- but I guess everyone makes mistakes ?? even after getting the first 125 sized perfect ?? hmmmmmmmmm.....
**** any testers who have not received yet can still expect to receive this week of course
(you were 1 of the 125 sent out) -- thank u all again and look forward to all feedback --- I know it will be a lot of good positive news but plz - we want constructive ideas as well !
they are packaged well but not in the actual customer packaging
so sorry to disappoint with any delays -- but the good news is the product is final product ! just plain packaging 4 the testers - but full customer packaging ready next week ....

todays delivery was the missing link in getting online sales going instead of just local ......

but I will spend the weekend really finalizing the website for us all -- and will get replacement glass early next week -- and then we will begin with orders of the Kind MD "slim model" (these will also be available with Stainless Steel thick tubing as well -- a sweet look as well -- )

what I like the best so far -- aside the taste / ease of use --- and so much more --- my favorite part is the cap / and the SS filter we added below the cap -- and then a small filter by the mouthpiece -- anything to keep what belongs in the cartridge and not in the body unless in vapor form or baking -- It is amazing how our below cap new filter keeps the unit clean -- no more splash back -- or dirty glass or wasted medicine -- only reclaim will be in the filter and maybe a drop on the airstone -- put on a sheet of wax paper each month and let already de-carbed reclaim drip off onto paper -- mix with coconut oil and lecithin and make a nice chill pill (the terpenes/taste will be gone so - a great way to use ......)
all kits of course will include many extras including plenty of extra filters on course --



again I am very very sorry about the small delay -- I wanted to have in the mail today for you all !
I am sure we can correct the glass issue by next week and be rolling forward !

much respect and thank u in advance my friends

 

[710]

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That's disappointing. A manufacturer can't get specifications right, and can't package fragile materials properly for shipping? I'd be livid.

Hope you can get it straightened out.

edit: I'm curious to what your view are on convection vaping. I've been thinking of it for years, and most if not all who tried have failed. If you could get it to work, it would potentially address all 4 areas of concern you listed.

 

[invisiblefriend]

That's disappointing. A manufacturer can't get specifications right, and can't package fragile materials properly for shipping? I'd be livid.

Hope you can get it straightened out. (thank you bro !!! )

edit: I'm curious to what your view are on convection vaping. I've been thinking of it for years, and most if not all who tried have failed. If you could get it to work, it would potentially address all 4 areas of concern you listed.

no doubt my good friend - (if it wasn't my brothers company shipping from thur German location) I would be truly crazy crazy (honestly I wasn't proud of my phone call after receiving the boxz ..lol ) -- but I have had a few growing pains to say the least myself -- so after my initial screaming n yelling -- I calmed down n realized they too will need to change a drop n learn from some small mistakes :/ --- this is the first time the manufacturer has worked internationally with glass parts / they focus on SS and titanium parts for surgery ........ so I hope we both learned from this one !

I feel we have it all worked out finally (and it actually gave me an interesting idea as I was trying to think about what I could do with all these 1000 extra parts in the future )

I am so very glad you brought up the convection vaping -- I will certainly be posting our past experience and future ideas on here -- plus I will send you some info on it as well ...
I do agree if we could get it just right it could solve all issues ---
One area -IMO - we need to focus on is a heating element to be used that will heat up super fast (this is the area I really like ceramic in theory ! ) -- but more importantly - we NEED our unit 2 cool down immediately !!!! fast fast fast to keep our concentrate fresh ! wouldn't that be sweet !

that is why we are focusing on micro-fans for our in-house / home unit -- but are really hoping to find the "perfect" cooling/heating material ... to be used (yes in just a convection way .......)

I guess ...lets all remember in practice almost every vaporizing experiences are actually both
convection and conduction to some degree at certain points during the session regardless of the system in use
-- but we can only judge the type of vaporizing experience by the dominant factor of the tool -- ???
- we hope to make that dominant factor to be convection at least 95% of the time !
I don't feel we will have a true convection portable unit out thur just yet -- but the future will head back into that direction of convection 4 good reason -- (ironically kinda where it all started )----
just now trying to perfect it -- WE LOVE DOING THIS AT KIND MD VAPES ..We are hoping to use some interesting technology in the future to achieve this type of true convection -- unfortunately because of size we would have to make sacrifices that we would not be happy about to keep it really portable (meaning battery sized portable )-- --
we will start with our ac @ home unit now since we can utilize multiple parts and multiple separate sections we will explain why in the near future !
we are talking a lot about this unit since we focus on health --- and this will be tops when it comes to medically controlling your medicine in the cleanest - true vape style !
- No doubt - I believe the future is bright in this area with certain obvious improvements immediately ahead
I will always feel though -- - there will always be a group of clients who will not enjoy the convection since the air carries the particles -- so peeps don't get the same clouds they are used to -- so they automatically discount it .(thinking no clouds takes away from the medicine - of course this is not a true statement -- the vape is still getting to you but isn't as visible to the eye and also isn't as much of an irritant to the chest ! )
smoother by far !!! .. -- I wish they would take in the experience and the taste and the feelings and not be biased by the lack of thick vapor -- but these clouds certainly are NOT NEEDED to receive full medical benefits -- but some will still insist on using more cloud type / conduction vaping imo ???...... even I have been guilty of this from time to time -- mind over matter lol

Yet of course no denying -- as I have used a convection unit for over 15 years now .... and it is still one of the top machines out thur (maybe not number 1 for wax but still incredible and still made the same)-- now it may be digital -- but still pretty much the identical parts / concept -- huge clouds it may not make especially with wax/oil .....and yes this is because it uses the air to carry the particles inside - --
BUT ..do we get huge health benefits from the invisible vapor ???-- absolutely !!!!
-precise temp control ! (control actual different medical benefits and experiment w/different types of meds)
-evenly heat / huge taste !
-much lower risk of combustion !

will we be working heavy in this area @ the Kind MD labs -- absolutely --- will it be our daily portable driver ... I don't think so -- but will most likely become our #1 daily tool for @ home use !

thk u all 4 everything -- and I hope everyone is having a super wknd !

any suggestions out thur plz send --- we will certainly put it through the KIND MD test

More info later my friends

peace and much respect


#invisiblefriend
#KindMDVapes

 

[invisiblefriend]

HAPpy MotHeRs Day

Love the KIND MD team !

 

[2clicker]

will you be offering any temp limiting devices with features like new YiHi SX350j chip offers?

i feel that temp control/limiting is the future of concentrate vaping.

 

[invisiblefriend]

@2clicker thx 4 stopping by my friend ~ so interesting that you would bring that up ---

I was actually just looking into some of the features such as being able to limit/change temp / voltage in real time !!!!

WE LIKE DAT

I must say we will be putting in some serious decisions over the next couple days (this is one of them ....)



so .. I guess u agree ... you feel that is the new direction ---

I do feel it gives the user such better experience --

helping vape it all properly without just burning it all up

NICE my friend -- I would love to know any thoughts u have or ideas as well ?

Much respect !

 

[2clicker]

@invisiblefriend... thanks for the warm welcome.

i am in the process of building a temp limiting device myself by installing a SX350J into a custom 3d printed enclosure. its taking longer than i would like due to avail fundage and time (sorry @Ratchett!), but its slowly happening.

i am also working on a new kind of wick. ceramic, but different than anything else available. this is taking even longer than i would like as well unfortunately.

im hoping to produce a concentrate vape that is user rebuildable, easy to load, easy to clean, tastes amazing, and can be handed to a newb with zero experience with errl vapes w/out fear of them burning their dab. perfect.

excited to see what your team comes up with!

 

[invisiblefriend]

@2clicker ... of course -- you get the top warm welcome being part of the Kind Collective

so glad 2 have u as part of the team and discussion/r & d (so much currently going on its krakra)

I found it very very interesting and incredible about you working on a battery like that right now --- I look 4ward to discussing much more my friend --- I will certainly hit u up PM if thats kool I really look 4ward to chatting with ya !

PLUS --- very kool u brought up the new concentrate vape -- I look forward to hearing more about -- and best of luck in everything you are working on brother !

(many r afraid to discuss thur ideas so I respect that you have !!!!!! much props )

we were approached a couple months ago and asked about a perfect rebuildable --
and I have never really had or been into them .... but it intrigued me -- ....

so one of our important current projects is a similar MAYBE ??? / well an RDA type -- and it will fit onto our current base ~! (well our 2nd generation bases out this summer) ..

we want to make it on the new base to add to the air control .... so I feel it will be a nice additional feature --

then we thought of having a simple lift - type open / top -- and inside -- one side will hold the concentrate and the other side with allow the concentrate to drip into its area which will be powered by 2 ( or maybe 1 larger) coils/wicking that can be easily replaced by the user (if they make coil themselves or buy a 2$ replacement) --- it will be easy to replace if needed -- I will send u some other info to give a better picture ---
Because I agree -- if we can make a product so nice yet great for newbies and experts ! it will be stella !

I see newbies resorting to mixing the perfect wax / concentrate with the ...ICK .candy flavors and glycerin (or store pre made pens with the carts full already -- and IMO its disappointing -- (YES some of the top legal concentrate companies are doing very very well don't get me wrong --- but I'm still on fence about the process of stripping terpenes out and then adding back in the limonene and such ? I'm still not sure about -- I feel it will be great in the future for health benefits but now I see them using it to simply sell the items taste instead of selling the levels of medicine !!!!!

and who knows ???? what percentage of what is in the ones peeps get off street - not recommended @ all --

***** with that said (about the newbies) --- I CANNOT BELIEVE THE luck we have been having with the feedback from our new "slim" design -- from all levels

(TO EVERYONE -- I AM very sorry about the small delay in retail sales ----- )
-- but we are now converting to straight Stainless Steel instead of the glass style ! -- another few days n we good - (ill put full update later my friends ! )

bak to the "slim" results ---

not only have we been having incredible stability with our 32g titanium2 wraps --- but to date no burn outs or any damage with the 175 we got out for the testing and about right now its going on 4 weeks ! I have been trying to damage them !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I thought for sure a few would pop or ... well Im not gunna complain 4 sure !

but I do feel that size gives true stability @ 32g -- and they @ .80 OHM which seems to be nice for where the coil is -- ( everyone has been using at 3.7v - 4.3v )
recommended & tastes r incredible at 3.7v (temp is perfect for the terpenes ! )

the one thing we did this time --- we not only used the caps and filters --- to keep the concentrate down where it belongs ! / reduce splatter as well -- but we had other functional reasons 2 make changes !
-- we raised the coil / wick in our heads a couple MM ...
-- this now is essential in this setup and works just great with the airstone --
the airstone absorbs as much as it can -- the rest sits below the wick and coil ---
now -- naturally as you pull with your mouth -- you begin to pull the medicine up from the bottom and up from the inside of the wick to touch the titanium and create the vapor !






*** also we r releasing the new MD-72 coil cleaning tool smaller than 1/8th of your pinky
and made out of pure stainless steel - even the cute tiny handle
Just got them in yesterday -- will post picture later and will be available next week with the slim premium cartridge !!!

(sometimes the small little tools help in the entire process ! --- and make it an amazing and much better experiences! -- this is such a tool ! )

 

[2clicker]

@invisiblefriend, yeah we can shoot ideas back and forth. im not sure my project is for anyone but myself at this point. if it turns out well then i would consider producing them for sale.

about your rebuildable idea... as far as keeping the errl on one side and the coil/wick set up on the other... id say make sure that they are far enough apart so that when you fire the coil that you arent warming the concentrate that is sitting on the other side.

my design is a "load as you go" approach. of which i feel is ideal. sure you have to load after each dab, but your not affecting the rest of your stash by doing so. all of the carts that allow you to load .5-1g of errl work well, but every time that coil fires its warming up the entire amount that has been loaded. in turn stripping terps. that is why i feel loading as you go is the best method.

feel free to PM me whenever. i can discuss this shit all day long.

 

[invisiblefriend]

My dear friends !!! Hope all are doing well --- we have been soo busy in such positive ways ... n i apologize for some delays getting the newest cartridge out !

We planned on shipping by Wednesday -- but just to cover all bases -- it will be next week ----

The "slim - md-72" cartridge -- kind MD Vapes newest full cartridge and newest head with special airstone and true 32g titanium2 pure wraps ..... will be available at your local shop and online shipping/ our site by next wednesday ! (don't forget FC discounts )

(I still have NOT been able to pop my 3rd gen coil -- the md-72 newest generation -- we made it to run between 3.7v and 4.2v -- but i been pushing and pushing week after week ----
the last week -- I been vaping at 5.1 / 5.2 volts non stop and even burning dry to test out -- this baby has proven pretty indestructible .... I'm happy happy ---
honestly since I opened the 1000 pack to start testing --- 4 weeks or more ago --- I am still on head # 1 (I've cleaned many many many times as well !!!! ) ........ I'm even shocked --- (i think the titanium 2 and how careful it is coiled -- the airstone I feel helps keep it wet at all times ....-- and just real quality materials and quality control plus the new SS cleaning tool all help ... -- i just am shocked no broken coil yet though --- (just from past experience !!!!! )


I wish we had them out earlier -- but we were so busy trying to get the next devices perfect so no more future delays ---

EVEN OUR NEW BATTERY WILL BE DROPPING OVER THE NEXT 7 - 10 days ----
(after some internal work -- trying to keep costs truly low was the largest issue ..... Once we bagan adding the true variable voltage instead of just the 30 watt variable wattage (we want both options) then we had to extend the 10 second shutoff on the board for some special devices about to be released that will run perfect at 6 volts through 8 volts depending on medicine ! -- then we had to make a better cool down and heat blocker to keep safe of course -- so it added up quick --- )
Once we finished a few different ideas we noticed our favorite one matched a super popular mod that is already out --- -- we contacted them to see if we could work together to help keep costs down - it is working so well - we r improving and making some changes to an already amazing 30 watt device ! ill drop more info tmro

(after all we don't want all our research going into portable battery research since it is changing every day especially overseas -- lol -- it seems @ a super fast pace ...

and we are much much more focussed on our medicinal @ home A/C vape (oil and herb) unit that
IMO is the answer to everything in this medical area -- and even will have a special patented "part" that can be removed and added to your 510 mod for TRUE "on the go " use with "THE SAME" home premium super dab/vape medicine cartridge ! (IT has been developed to be used in home to assist in receiving the best medicinal levels / effects with the standalone unit and also to be swapped out with different medicines and different mods / power devices .....)

more to come my friends

sleepy

 

[710]

Wow, didn't expect to hear that they would be shipping so soon. How are people ordering them when your site isn't up? Do you have a store on eBay or Amazon or something?

 

[invisiblefriend]

@710 yea -- so sorry about the website mess -- we should have just kept up our original "KIND" site instead of updating at the same time we were releasing new products -----
bad business move IMO -- but more learning from my mistakes of course lol

I have actually been also selling on ebay and @ local tri-state shops / & collective groups for the last year and half --
(also a major oil company in Washington started using our coils exclusively with thur oil / wax devices ) -
I cannot say the company name -- since they re-brand & we made an agreement --- but they have helped with the entire testing stage thank goodness ! -- it was a blessing in disguise especially since we are based in NY ........

the ebay sales -- it was when we focused on just the two special MD-72 heads which were aftermarket coils for the glacier ......
- after realizing how many peeps needed quality coils -- it moved us further --
and now here we go my friends ....

the new "slim" model will be released next week ---
-- the full kit (including 30 watt VV battery / and the new battery purchased alone will be available by the end of the following week -- I wanted to release all at same time but I know a lot are excited about the "slim MD"

then the 2nd edition - the "bottle cap" cartridge is a drop larger -- to fit a few larger Kind MD heads for those who enjoy a larger setup (future use)--- (all coils are interchangeable so no worries -- you will be able to use anything Kind MD threaded on future models - and yes main thread will be 510 on all !!! )


** i was doing the site updates myself like I always have -(too much work now on the plate ! )
GOOD NEWS - just recently passed it onto my brothers team who specialize in IT .... sooo the site WiLL be up before the actual sales start next week ---

all peeps with emails already added to the Kind MD site -- will be receiving a huge discount email as soon as site is up next week



thank you all for the incredible support


PS Happy Birthday my brother -- Happy Birthday Round - n - Round !!!!!!!!!!!
(co - creator of Kind Audio and Video / Kind Recordings and KindKidz)


Have a safe and fun wknd !

plz be safe especially in the non - medicinal states -- the holidays are times peeps get into trouble for things as simple as taking our medicine --
the police do not want to hear it and won't listen especially on a busy holiday weekend --

so plz think twice and be careful my friends !

we send our very best !

 

[arrr]

@invisiblefriend I broke the glass to my cloupor m2 on this holiday weekend and can't find a replacement anywhere. Seems they discounted it. I modify the cloupor with RDX wick and my own wire.
I hope your product comes out soon cause as that was my last atomizer glass tube. I have all this wax and busted atomizer.

Peace and have a good holiday.

 

[invisiblefriend]

@everyone Happy Happy Memorial Day Weekend !!!!!!! fun fun fun 2 all ....



@arrr -- so sorry about the broken glass my friend

super great news -- all parts in place tmro morning at the studio / lab

--- I will post full info later and will PM u as well ... but all good 4 this week ---

will be shipping earlier than we thought ! hope to have full cartridges / replacement heads / replacement stainless steel tubes / new MD-72's for the glacier
and our new MD-72 SS cleaning tool !! (bonus!!!!!! )


no more worrying about glass my friend --


but when I ship your cartridge I will send you the glass tubes we have in our stock room -- we have 2 i believe that we cannot use -- maybe they will fit yours --- i think the diameter is 11mm and the length is 3cm ??? more or less !

will ttys

just wanted to share info --

I got a dhl notification a few hours ago about tiros delivery from germany ! arriving tmro --

and that is the final piece of the newest ANTI GLASS cartridge --
the Stainless Steel pretty tubes from Miltex surgical outa Germany

 

[arrr]

@everyone Happy Happy Memorial Day Weekend !!!!!!! fun fun fun 2 all ....



@arrr -- so sorry about the brown glass

super great news -- all parts in place tmro morning at the studio / lab

--- I will post full info later and will PM u as well ... but all good 4 this week ---

will be shipping earlier than we thought ! hope to have full cartridges / replacement heads / replacement stainless steel tubes / new MD-72's for the glacier
and our new MD-72 SS cleaning tool !! (bonus!!!!!! )


no more worrying about glass my friend --


but when I ship your cartridge I will send you the glass tubes we have in our stock room -- we have 2 i believe that we cannot use -- maybe they will fit yours --- i think the diameter is 11mm and the length is 3cm ??? more or less !

will ttys

just wanted to share info --

I got a dhl notification a few hours ago about tiros delivery from germany ! arriving tmro --

and that is the final piece of the newest ANTI GLASS cartridge --
the Stainless Steel pretty tubes from Miltex surgical outa Germany

Word up. Thanks @invisiblefriend

 

[invisiblefriend]

and my dear friends ... we are finally ready to roll ....
thank you so much for all the amazing support and of course the patience !


COMPLETE full info up tmro -- with the full website hopefully up & running at the same time --
*** all members who signed up will be getting a special email ..... ***

We Have the Full "Slim Kind MD Stainless Steel cartridge" which will be shipping with our md-72 airstone (Kind MD's newest generation 'true' titanium2 wraps 32 g ..... with our special "raised position"
- they run amazing at 3.7volts ... it gives you the best taste and allows the most medicine to stay inside the wick at a proper temperature ..
- you can run up to 4.3volts depending on your oil and your desired type of cloud !
(3.7v keeps the terpenes in tact yummy yummy !!!! ) but I have run my coils as high as 5.1volts without any issues .... not recommended but myself or any testers are yet to pop a coil --

- No GLUE used ever ! No solder ! Highest surgical grade materials available always used !

this model uses all stainless steel (zero glass) - - but we do have a glass option which will be available next week....

Honestly because of the many up-coming items that will also be dropping....
we have decided to make this our entry level product -- but it is for both beginners and masters alike!
Base has 2 dedicated air holes below the head !
all our items will continue to use the 510 standard or ego thread
- we have also made our heads with a fairly standard threading so it can be swapped with other manufacturers so you can see the difference in taste even in your favorite base !
-this threading will continue so all future heads / heating elements will all fit on all our bases !

- with that said -- we will not only be selling the full Stainless Steel Cartridge but will also start selling the MD-72 titanium airstone head for use on ALL new and future KindMD bases and a few "other" major bases as well !

We will also be offering our new Stainless Steel Md-72 cleaning tool ... (A must HaVe)
-- more info on this lil gal tmro

Much respect and luv from us all --- ill get photos up once I'm in the lab ... peace and respect 2 all

 

[710]

Awesome! I bet they will be worth the wait. Looking forward to the new site and info.