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TigoleBitties

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I hate to break it to our local Canadian Trumpist (lol), but these people are absolutely fascists.

Before there has been any investigation whatsoever, Trump and his cronies are blaming the DC plane crash on the Blacks, and the Gays, and the Immigrants. This isn't just fucking retarded, it's fascist. Blame every single problem on the minority groups you hate. That's Nazi shit.


I also think this is going to eventually get very old, even for people who don't hate Trump. Taking zero responsibility for anything that happens on your watch. What an "Alpha Male". Simply blaming everything bad that happens on DEI. Pathetic.
Truly pathetic. If his base wasn't dumber than he is they would've tired of the ludicrous fascist "explanations" a long time ago. They were actively dying from Covid at his super-spreader rallies while he was forcibly vaccinated by doctors who know what's up so there isn't much hope for them figuring things out.

If the world was remotely fair he would've died from Covid while telling the public it's all a hoax. I imagine even if that happened and all his lies were laid bare for everyone to see, there'd still be conspiracy theorists claiming foul play.
 

Pib

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Trump is using the same tactics Hitler has used, so anyone seeing him not as a fascist?


Die Aufnahmefähigkeit der großen Masse ist nur sehr beschränkt, das Verständnis klein, dafür jedoch die Vergeßlichkeit groß.
Aus diesen Tatsachen heraus hat sich jede wirkungsvolle Propaganda auf nur sehr wenige Punkte zu beschränken und diese schlagwortartig so lange zu verwerten, bis auch bestimmt der Letzte unter einem solchen Wort das Gewollte sich vorzustellen vermag. - A. Hitler

In english

The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their understanding is limited, but their forgetfulness is great.
In view of these facts, any effective propaganda must be limited to very few points and these must be used as catchwords until even the last person is able to imagine what is meant by such a word. - A. Hitler
 

florduh

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If the world was remotely fair he would've died from Covid while telling the public it's all a hoax.

That literally almost happened.


The doctors around him lied to the public about the severity of his case. Trump, upon his release, said his survival was proof COVID was no big deal. This despite only surviving because he was airlifted to the emergency room (a several hundred thousand dollar service for non-Presidents). And being treated with Regeneron, a medication that was not widely available for regular citizens.

That having been said, severe COVID causes permanent vascular damage. I think his father survived into his 90's, but I'm praying this means he'll stroke out ahead of schedule.

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TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
That having been said, severe COVID causes permanent vascular damage. I think his father survived into his 90's, but I'm praying this means he'll stroke out ahead of schedule.
I'm right there with you. I remember that moment in time when he was diagnosed with covid because it was the first time in my life that I wished death on another human in a serious manner. Not proud of it but it is what it is.

He's no doubt responsible for thousands of deaths but it all happens in a "white collar" way. It's still mass murder in my eyes.
 

Pib

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I would like to say something else, even if I always target fascists here, it doesn't matter, every dictator, everyone would like dictator (I'm looking at you Erdogan) uses the same methods. Even in the relegion they use them, even the "good guys" use them to make you hear what they want you to hear. Yes, almost everyone uses these methods to some extent. It doesn't matter whether they are radical left or radical right, neither of them is good and only fights for their convictions. You sometimes only choose the lesser of two evils.

With a two-party system like in the USA, I sometimes only see the choice between plague and cholera. Sorry USA...
And like in Russia, North Korea, there is none of a choice...
 

TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
I will never forget Trump's actions during the pandemic.

Here is a man (and I use that term loosely) that had lung infiltrates and blood oxygen levels in the 80s after getting infected. He was immediately put on an experimental antiviral and was on the cusp of being put on a ventilator. He had access to the best medical care in the country that probably saved his miserable existence.

What does he do with his new lease on life? What message does he take away from this intense life-changing experience? Does he think "hey, I almost just died from this thing.... maybe this is a sign and I should re-think this?"

No, he decides that this would be a good time to capitalize on his image as a tough guy and a leader.

Trump, who repeatedly undermined and downplayed the severity of the pandemic and its soaring death toll, at times suggested that his own recovery was proof that the virus was not as big a threat as public health officials made it out to be.

Upon returning to the White House after his illness, Trump told supporters: “You’re going to beat it [coronavirus] … As your leader, I had to do that. I knew there’s danger to it, but I had to do it. I stood out front, and led.”


This is his advice to the American public.... Don't be a pussy, Covid isn't a big deal. I'm tough and I'm a leader. Let's not forget that this occurred *after* nearly half a million Americans had already died from it.

I submit to you good denizens of FC that someone who clutches at power in this way, with such a total and utter disregard for human life is not only a fascist but a psychopath as well.
 

florduh

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Erdogan is a fascist. He might virtue as a religious guy, but he's a plain Right Wing ultranationalist.

Russia, North Korea

Putin is also a Far Right Winger. Only North Korea could plausibly be called "Far Left" and that seems to be more aesthetic than descriptive. They created a hereditary monarchy and religion around the Dear Leader. Though it's hard to get reliable information about them that isn't filtered through US State Department propaganda.

But I don't think it's accurate to say the Far Left and Far Right pose a comparable threat globally. And certainly not in the United States. There's never been a Far Left here.

With a two-party system like in the USA, I sometimes only see the choice between plague and cholera. Sorry USA...

Completely agree here. Which brings me to...

I submit to you good denizens of FC that someone who clutches at power in this way, with such a total and utter disregard for human life is not only a fascist but a psychopath as well.

I agree with everything you're saying, TigoleBitties. But how pathetic is it that the Democrats lost to this guy, twice? In fact... I'm almost certain he would've won in 2020 if he wasn't hospitalized DURING early voting.

He's a billionaire scam artist who was born with a silver spoon up his asshole. And it never occurred to anyone in that decrepit party to run a populist, anti-billionaire campaign? It's madness.
 
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TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
Fascists are psychopaths. Give me one fascist movement that hasn't tortured and killed. And liked to do so.

Fascism prioritizes the nation or race above the individual but maybe only a psychopath would prioritize (leading) the nation over his own life? He definitely gambled with it. Maybe that's more narcissism or delusions of grandeur?

Or maybe he's just really, really dumb.

I agree with everything you're saying, TigoleBitties. But how pathetic is it that the Democrats lost to this guy, twice? In fact... I'm almost certain he would've won in 2020 if he wasn't hospitalized DURING early voting.

He's a billionaire scam artist who was born with a silver spoon up his asshole. And it never occurred to anyone in that decrepit party to run a populist, anti-billionaire campaign? It's madness.
Truly it is madness that they continue to lose. It still doesn't change just how vile this guy is. He is a cancer.
 
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florduh

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This morning, Vice President JD Vance implied that even if the Air Traffic Controllers last night were white and straight, they were still unable to properly do their jobs because, in the back of their minds, they were still worried about DEI and wokeness attacking the beautiful white race.

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In reality, ATC's are unable to properly do their jobs because they're underpaid and overworked. This same thing is also happening across the country.


Fair warning to anyone flying in or out of San Francisco. There is now an airport in SFO airspace running without air traffic control.
 

Radwin Bodnic

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Fascism prioritizes the nation or race above the individual but maybe only a psychopath would prioritize (leading) the nation over his own life? He definitely gambled with it. Maybe that's more narcissism or delusions of grandeur?
Again, all fascists leaders are narcissistic and develop a cult of personality.

That's because they are very insecure. Fascisme is based on xenophobia, literally the fear of those who are different. How can't they be insecure ?

Every drop of power à fascist get, he uses it to secure his self.
 

florduh

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Just checking in on the party that's supposed to be "resisting" real quick....

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"Ummmm akshully... we're better at being fascists than the Fascist Party🤓"

Shut the Fuck Up!!!! Shut THE FUCK UPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!

You people are so fucking useless!! Who is this for????? If you love brutalizing immigrants... you're already voting for the Republicans. These people have been getting their asses kicked by, maybe the stupidest guy I've ever seen, for a full decade now. I'm a dumb fucking pot head and I understand this, how do they not??????

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Poor people are worrying about their food stamps being cut and the elderly don't know if Meals on Wheels will show up and the leader of the Democrats is criticizing Trump for defunding the Feral Hogs who are currently taking a break from murdering black teenagers to terrorize abuelas across the continent.

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Octavia

No thoughts, head empty
For one, I don’t
At this point I doubt there’s anything that’ll change your mind then, but if you have anything that you view disqualifies him from being a fascist I would honestly like to hear it.

If anyone HASN’T decided that Fascist = Bad, Trump = Good, Bad != Good :. Trump != Fascist, here’s one of the definitions from wikipedia, link included below with more:
Historian of fascism Stanley G. Payne created a lengthy list of characteristics to identify fascism in 1995:[31][32] in summary form, there are three main strands. First, Payne's "fascist negations" refers to such typical policies as anti-communism and anti-liberalism. Second, "fascist goals" include a nationalist dictatorship and an expanded empire. Third, "fascist style", is seen in its emphasis on violence and authoritarianism, and its exultation of men above women, and young above old.[33]


  • A. Ideology and Goals:
    • Espousal of an idealist, vitalist, and voluntaristic philosophy, normally involving the attempt to realize a new modern, self-determined, and secular culture
Major difference here is instead of secularist, they’re aiming for the trappings of Christianity. Trump himself is pretty secular, but is more than willing to use religion for his own ends.

  • Creation of a new nationalist authoritarian state not based on traditional principles or models
  • Organization of a new highly regulated, multiclass, integrated national economic structure, whether called national corporatist, national socialist, or national syndicalist
Project 2025 (currently being implemented by the executive orders/Musk) is the authoritarian state being created. The executive orders in particular are very dictatorial, the ones raising alarms currently are attempting to bypass congress (rescinding funding allocated by congress without seeking approval), or the constitution (birthright citizenship established by the 14th amendment).

  • Positive evaluation and use of, or willingness to use, violence and war
  • The goal of empire, expansion, or a radical change in the nation's relationship with other powers
Should be obvious. The cozying up with neo nazis, pardoning folks who commit violence in his name and encouraging/not discouraging others to do the same meet the first point imo. His praise of other authoritarians (saudis, north korea, xi, putin, literally hitler, etc), and rhetoric around seizing Canada, Greenland and the Panama canal meet the second.

  • B. The Fascist Negations:
    • Antiliberalism
    • Anticommunism
    • Anticonservatism (though with the understanding that fascist groups were willing to undertake temporary alliances with other sectors, more commonly with the right)
Should be self explanatory again. Anticonservatism is the current state of the US Republican Party where they initially allied with Trump, but are now beholden to his whims. We’ll see if principles bear out over the next few years, but they’re in deep enough that I doubt it.

  • C. Style and Organization:
    • Attempted mass mobilization with militarization of political relationships and style and with the goal of a mass single party militia
January 6th, the various right wing militias who either have professed loyalty to Trump, or see their goals as aligned.

  • Emphasis on aesthetic structure of meetings, symbols, and political liturgy, stressing emotional and mystical aspects
  • Extreme stress on the masculine principle and male dominance, while espousing a strongly organic view of society
  • Exaltation of youth above other phases of life, emphasizing the conflict of the generations, at least in effecting the initial political transformation
  • Specific tendency toward an authoritarian, charismatic, personal style of command, whether or not the command is to some degree initially elective[32]
Point 1 is arguably the current use of christian symbols and trappings for their profoundly anti christian words and actions. The rest should be obvious with reflection, but not certain on the exaltation of youth considering Trump is himself a bloated shambling corpse. Arguably was his line of attack against Biden despite being just about the same age.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism
 

florduh

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Luigi deserves to have all charges against him dropped because the demon he (allegedly) sent back to Hell is still murdering innocent 22 year olds from beyond the grave.

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Link to the story

This young man, Cole, was a severe asthmatic who required a specific inhaler to survive. United Healthcare dropped that inhaler from his plan without notice. Days after he was unable to pick up his prescription, Cole suffered a massive asthma attack and died.

A brief list of some of the people who owe Luigi a public apology at his Congressional Medal of Freedom ceremony:

The CEO of McDonalds
Eric Adams
The entire NYPD
Bill Maher
The Governor of PA
The cops in that PA town with the terrible pizza
Every member of the Fake News Media

That's just off the top of my head :shrug:
 

florduh

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I'm going to be a raisin picker

Not a big deal, but my browser originally translated this as "cherry picker" which I think makes more sense.
For one, I don’t
I agree with @CanuckTrumpist

Trump isn't a fascist. He's a Maoist.


Time to put the AmeriKKKan Treatlerites on a diet. Live image from the White House Press Office:

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It's funny that these tariffs will hurt Canada way more than they'll hurt CHINA. Long term this will almost certainly benefit the dreaded ChiComs, while demolishing US soft power.
 

Radwin Bodnic

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The rest should be obvious with reflection, but not certain on the exaltation of youth considering Trump is himself a bloated shambling corpse. Arguably was his line of attack against Biden despite being just about the same age.
Western societies are based on the elders domination over the youth.
(Aaaaand also on domination of men over women, white skins over others colors, mankind over others animals and mankind over nature).
 

florduh

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The media is going to harp on Costco offering raises to $30/hour, calling the workers greedy. Do not fall for this propaganda. Without a contract, employers can pull benefits at any time.

There is also a fundamental misunderstanding about what unions are. They are the only way we have to introduce some level of democracy into the place most people spend most of their lives. Giving workers some level of control over their benefits and working conditions.

Costco is refusing to negotiate in good faith. They are the villains here.
 

Pib

Active Member
No big deal, but my browser originally translated this as "cherry picker", which I think makes more sense.
It may be that this saying is based on raisin in Germany and cherry in America. Sometimes it is hard to translate....
 
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CANtalk

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Buckle up, it's going to get wild out there
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChicagoSuburbs/comments/1iejjpf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/1ievfif
Exclusive: Musk aides lock Office of Personnel Management workers out of computer systems

Difficult to tell how accurate this is, but there's lots of news that appears to support it
https://www.reddit.com/r/FBI/comments/1ieq8j9



TN passes a bill that makes it a felony for elected officials to vote against Trump immigration policies.​


The Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention is issuing a Red Flag Alert for genocide in the United States.

... If anyone HASN’T decided that Fascist = Bad, Trump = Good, Bad != Good :. Trump != Fascist, here’s one of the definitions from wikipedia, link included below with more:

Major difference here is instead of secularist, they’re aiming for the trappings of Christianity. Trump himself is pretty secular, but is more than willing to use religion for his own ends.


Project 2025 (currently being implemented by the executive orders/Musk) is the authoritarian state being created. The executive orders in particular are very dictatorial, the ones raising alarms currently are attempting to bypass congress (rescinding funding allocated by congress without seeking approval), or the constitution (birthright citizenship established by the 14th amendment).


Should be obvious. The cozying up with neo nazis, pardoning folks who commit violence in his name and encouraging/not discouraging others to do the same meet the first point imo. His praise of other authoritarians (saudis, north korea, xi, putin, literally hitler, etc), and rhetoric around seizing Canada, Greenland and the Panama canal meet the second.


Should be self explanatory again. Anticonservatism is the current state of the US Republican Party where they initially allied with Trump, but are now beholden to his whims. We’ll see if principles bear out over the next few years, but they’re in deep enough that I doubt it.


January 6th, the various right wing militias who either have professed loyalty to Trump, or see their goals as aligned.


Point 1 is arguably the current use of christian symbols and trappings for their profoundly anti christian words and actions. The rest should be obvious with reflection, but not certain on the exaltation of youth considering Trump is himself a bloated shambling corpse. Arguably was his line of attack against Biden despite being just about the same age.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism
Sorry but facts & common sense haven't mattered for a long time now to many :zombie:, even in 2017 Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway flat out defended the use of "alternative facts" to promote an obvious lie to the press & everyone. It's all part of a huge anti-science & anti-expertise movement in the US & beyond. The US is in a post truth era in many ways & lots are looking to tear down the current world order. Remember, it takes a village to build Trump, he hasn't gotten to president of the US without a lot enthusiastically supporting all of this. Imagine supporting someone looking to undertake economic warfare against your own country, an ally.

The Dumbest Trade War in History

:peace: :leaf:
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
It may be that this saying is based on raisin in Germany and cherry in America. Sometimes it is hard to translate....
Probably not, given that you can't pick raisins. You pick grapes, and then dry them to make them raisins. ;)

I suspect the expression comes from the fact that when you pick cherries, you have to choose which are ripe and which are not as you're picking them. So you're not picking the whole tree at once.
 

Pib

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Probably not, given that you can't pick raisins. You pick grapes, and then dry them to make them raisins. ;)

I suspect the expression comes from the fact that when you pick cherries, you have to choose which are ripe and which are not as you're picking them. So you're not picking the whole tree at once.
Ok, in Germany it means you only pick the best/sweetest/what you want, and let the rest lay around.:D That's a raisin picker in german.

So in a discusson or something else, you only use the things that underline what you want to say.
 
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florduh

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Trump’s tariffs will create a financial strain on U.S. households, with lower-income families likely feeling the greatest impact. As the tariffs raise prices across many sectors, American consumers will face higher costs, reducing their purchasing power. At the same time, the tariffs are set to shrink the U.S. economy, potentially leading to job losses and economic slowdown.

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That's a raisin picker in german.

Sir, we are declaring a trade war on your country until such a time when you stop picking raisins, and start picking cherries :goon:. Germany has been very unfair to the cherries, believe me 👐
 
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