Looks good Greg - in the usage video posted to your account is appears that you are still using the original polyamide capsule - is there any way you can provide usage videos with the glass capsules since that's the main selling point vs the XP?
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Looks good Greg - in the usage video posted to your account is appears that you are still using the original polyamide capsule - is there any way you can provide usage videos with the glass capsules since that's the main selling point vs the XP?
Yellokat1000
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Delicious! can't wait ~ this version will blow all the other vapes out of their clouds!
2clicker
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Greg seems like a cool guy. Glad to see you starting a new youtube channel for inhalater I hope you will fix up your website and add videos so people can actually see how well the unit performs.
gosaints420
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Click the watch on YouTube button then click there channel name to bring up there vids.
Doesn't show much usage tho just how to use.
Yoosh
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Here ya go!
I really like Greg, seems like a genuine guy. This iteration of the inhalator looks great too. Really looking forward to this one.
natural farmer
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I am not impressed with what I see so far… Especially Greg... Not much has changed and they insist it uses both convection and conduction. I'd love to a sketch of how they accomplish this! 
AT this point I would prefer a PAX over an INHALATER…
AT this point I would prefer a PAX over an INHALATER…
namasteIII
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It looks to me like the unit you have in the pictures looks different to the unit featured in the videos. I'm wondering if this is true, and if it is which one will you be selling?
just a different color
I am not impressed with what I see so far… Especially Greg... Not much has changed and they insist it uses both convection and conduction. I'd love to a sketch of how they accomplish this!
AT this point I would prefer a PAX over an INHALATER…
I think that is a fairly impossible assertion to make when none of us have seen anything more than a few pictures of the new unit. I understand being wary due to the issues with the XP units, but I think that your being unfair, especially since the Pax had it's fair share of issues in the past. The only difference there was they had millions in seed funding to fall back on.
I'm also kind of shocked to see you take a personal shot at Greg, of all the people on this forum you would have been one of the last I'd expect to see that from.
I can personally corroborate the fact that the inhalater is indeed both a conduction and convection device, and having taken mine apart like every other vaporizer I own, I think I can make a pretty good diagram of what the internal heating chamber is like. Apologies for the lined paper and shaky art, but here goes:
This vaporizer works by drawing in air to the top of the heating chamber, which is then routed through a small chamber surrounding the polyimide lined heating coil. As the air makes it's way from the top of the chamber to the bottom, it is heated to vaporization temperature before finally being pulled into the chamber through the holes in the ceramic baseplate.
This design is extremely similar to both the Bud Toaster and Arizer Solo vaporizers, among others. I have come to refer to it in my own mind the"convect-duction" design, where a single heating element performs both convection and conduction heating to an approximately equal degree. I think it is a solid design and that the Inhalater implements it elegantly.
I'm very much looking forward to the launch of the indiegogo fundraiser and will do everything in my power to help inhalater make it. I know this vaporizer has the potential to be one of the very best portables on the market, and I'm not willing to give up on it over the growing pains they had with their last model.
namasteIII
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And the sticker is different as well, anyone know how this unit compares in size to something like the pinnical?
I guarantee you the electronics inside are the same, the only differences are cosmetic. Its very similar in size to the pinnacle pro, both are about as comfortable to carry as a cellphone. Battery life and vapor quality beats the pinnacle pro. The only thing that makes the pnpro interesting to me is the oil attachment, but I heard it makes wispy vapor using that attachment and isn't really that good (people on these forums have reported using oils in their inhalaters with much success). I have used both and both will make you happy. A major difference is the pnpro is full conduction heating which makes vapor that is really easy to see but is harsher. The inhalater has a conduction/convection heating style which I find to be much much smoother but it is hard to see the vapor unless you hold a light to your mouth which will reveal clouds (convection vapor is thinner and therefore harder to see). The inhalater is so smooth it feels like you're just getting flavor but actually you're getting clouds of vapor.
EDIT: Greg mentioned in the usage video that the auto setting starts at 190 degrees celcius and rises. Can we get more information on this? Like how hot it gets at max temp on the auto cycle and info on how it gradually raises the temp. Also can someone post where 190 degrees celcius is on the dial(I use temps 4-6 over 3-4 cycles)? I would like to see an updated temp gauge chart. For the XP as well as the INH 05.
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You did a very nice drawing and I could let it slide like you have drawn it but actually there is another chamber that you have not shown.....in between the black and the white....and I'm sorry I don't belive there is any ceramic anything in the Inhalater.....I wonder if he tried that at all....it sounds like an interesting idea....that surely would improve the convection side as well as heat retention......... interesting........I think that is a fairly impossible assertion to make when none of us have seen anything more than a few pictures of the new unit. I understand being wary due to the issues with the XP units, but I think that your being unfair, especially since the Pax had it's fair share of issues in the past. The only difference there was they had millions in seed funding to fall back on.
I'm also kind of shocked to see you take a personal shot at Greg, of all the people on this forum you would have been one of the last I'd expect to see that from.
I can personally corroborate the fact that the inhalater is indeed both a conduction and convection device, and having taken mine apart like every other vaporizer I own, I think I can make a pretty good diagram of what the internal heating chamber is like. Apologies for the lined paper and shaky art, but here goes:
This vaporizer works by drawing in air to the top of the heating chamber, which is then routed through a small chamber surrounding the polyimide lined heating coil. As the air makes it's way from the top of the chamber to the bottom, it is heated to vaporization temperature before finally being pulled into the chamber through the holes in the ceramic baseplate.
This design is extremely similar to both the Bud Toaster and Arizer Solo vaporizers, among others. I have come to refer to it in my own mind the"convect-duction" design, where a single heating element performs both convection and conduction heating to an approximately equal degree. I think it is a solid design and that the Inhalater implements it elegantly.
I'm very much looking forward to the launch of the indiegogo fundraiser and will do everything in my power to help inhalater make it. I know this vaporizer has the potential to be one of the very best portables on the market, and I'm not willing to give up on it over the growing pains they had with their last model.
Anyway back to the extra air chamber....notice that the outside holes are towards the bottome of the chamber.....then the air travels up to find the holes at the top of the white sleeve just as you've shown and back down to the bottom where it can make its way into the material to ensure vaporization and then out to us.....so a total of 3 chambers
1st pre-heated area between the black and the white sleeve {down->up}
2nd pre-heated area between the white sleeve and the exterior of the heat chamber itself {up->down}
3rd is the heat chamber itself {down->up}
You did a very nice drawing and I could let it slide like you have drawn it but actually there is another chamber that you have not shown.....in between the black and the white....and I'm sorry I don't belive there is any ceramic anything in the Inhalater.....I wonder if he tried that at all....it sounds like an interesting idea....that surely would improve the convection side as well as heat retention......... interesting........
Anyway back to the extra air chamber....notice that the outside holes are towards the bottome of the chamber.....then the air travels up to find the holes at the top of the white sleeve just as you've shown and back down to the bottom where it can make its way into the material to ensure vaporization and then out to us.....so a total of 3 chambers
1st pre-heated area between the black and the white sleeve {down->up}
2nd pre-heated area between the white sleeve and the exterior of the heat chamber itself {up->down}
3rd is the heat chamber itself {down->up}
My drawing is based more off of the inhalater 004 (and from memory over a year ago), I guess they must have made some big changes to the later versions. I did not do any extensive material testing but there was definitely some white high temperature resistant material surrounding and beneath the heating chamber, if it's not a ceramic then perhaps it's mica or PTFE.
Vape Dr.
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Greg, could you possibly clarify what the new 05 chamber is constructed of?
Rather than speculate, I would like to hear straight from the source.
I think were all getting pretty anxious as we get closer and closer to actually acquiring one of our own. I am behind your product 100%. It would be great if you could keep us in the loop with any updates you are able to share with the forum members.
I'm looking forward to hearing about any progress personally if possible.
thanks in advance.
Rather than speculate, I would like to hear straight from the source.
I think were all getting pretty anxious as we get closer and closer to actually acquiring one of our own. I am behind your product 100%. It would be great if you could keep us in the loop with any updates you are able to share with the forum members.
I'm looking forward to hearing about any progress personally if possible.
thanks in advance.
Yellokat1000
Inhalator shill account
How can you guarantee such a thing? the electronics are the same hahahhaha you don't make much of an argument when you don't even represent the technology or the brand - why so much pessimism ? You need to try something first and only then you'll be able to review it, it's not even available yet.. Assumptions ?
Your wondering if it's true? Keep wondering, eventually it will become your reality
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New body components are made of Polybutylene Terephthalate, PBT for shorts. This material has the appropriate engineering caracteristc; it is used amongst other to produce soda bottles.
Electronics are all new for perfect reliability and more performance.
Auto is mode is set to rise 5 Celsius over the course of the cycle, rising in step at every 90 seconds or so. It is like Using the unit from 5 -5.5 over the course of the cycle. There is still some work to be made regarding this algorithm.
There will be various color schemes for the new unit. Bodies are to be black and lights blue. Page 2 pictures some units.
Electronics are all new for perfect reliability and more performance.
Auto is mode is set to rise 5 Celsius over the course of the cycle, rising in step at every 90 seconds or so. It is like Using the unit from 5 -5.5 over the course of the cycle. There is still some work to be made regarding this algorithm.
There will be various color schemes for the new unit. Bodies are to be black and lights blue. Page 2 pictures some units.
mmenzie
My friends call me "Menz"
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It's a flower dedicaced device BUT it get the power to vape concentrates evenly, the issue is you need to mix it with flowers or abv, you can also sandwich it between some cotton or hemp fiber but , actually it's not possible to vape concentrates alone in Inh Xp (and it seems the inh005 will do the same, just flowers).
The Xp is not the tastier vape but I like it cause is easy to use, stealth, powerfull, good longlife battery, fit in every joint easily and it's the cloudier portable that I know.
The taste issue comes from the added power, they could stop the t° settings at 6 and I will be happy but lot of peoples (me too!) wants cloud after cloud, Inhalater give it to us but IMO after 1 full session at 5 all the goodies are spent but the unit continue to produce clouds cause your load start to combust (not really but it's a mix of smoke and poor steam, look at the abv, it is black after 2 full sessions, one at 5, the 2nd at 6).
To get a real vaping experience with the Xp you need to start at 4 for the 5-10 first hits and you turn it up at 5 for the rest of the session except the 2 last draws at 6 to extract all the ggoodies. I write that but most part of the time I start at 5 for 1 full session and I take some more draws at 6 in a 2nd run.
The Xp is not the tastier vape but I like it cause is easy to use, stealth, powerfull, good longlife battery, fit in every joint easily and it's the cloudier portable that I know.
The taste issue comes from the added power, they could stop the t° settings at 6 and I will be happy but lot of peoples (me too!) wants cloud after cloud, Inhalater give it to us but IMO after 1 full session at 5 all the goodies are spent but the unit continue to produce clouds cause your load start to combust (not really but it's a mix of smoke and poor steam, look at the abv, it is black after 2 full sessions, one at 5, the 2nd at 6).
To get a real vaping experience with the Xp you need to start at 4 for the 5-10 first hits and you turn it up at 5 for the rest of the session except the 2 last draws at 6 to extract all the ggoodies. I write that but most part of the time I start at 5 for 1 full session and I take some more draws at 6 in a 2nd run.
natural farmer
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I think that is a fairly impossible assertion to make when none of us have seen anything more than a few pictures of the new unit. I understand being wary due to the issues with the XP units, but I think that your being unfair, especially since the Pax had it's fair share of issues in the past. The only difference there was they had millions in seed funding to fall back on.
I'm also kind of shocked to see you take a personal shot at Greg, of all the people on this forum you would have been one of the last I'd expect to see that from.
I can personally corroborate the fact that the inhalater is indeed both a conduction and convection device, and having taken mine apart like every other vaporizer I own, I think I can make a pretty good diagram of what the internal heating chamber is like. Apologies for the lined paper and shaky art, but here goes:
This vaporizer works by drawing in air to the top of the heating chamber, which is then routed through a small chamber surrounding the polyimide lined heating coil. As the air makes it's way from the top of the chamber to the bottom, it is heated to vaporization temperature before finally being pulled into the chamber through the holes in the ceramic baseplate.
This design is extremely similar to both the Bud Toaster and Arizer Solo vaporizers, among others. I have come to refer to it in my own mind the"convect-duction" design, where a single heating element performs both convection and conduction heating to an approximately equal degree. I think it is a solid design and that the Inhalater implements it elegantly.
I'm very much looking forward to the launch of the indiegogo fundraiser and will do everything in my power to help inhalater make it. I know this vaporizer has the potential to be one of the very best portables on the market, and I'm not willing to give up on it over the growing pains they had with their last model.
What's the impossible assertion I made here??? That I would prefer the Pax at this point? That's an opinion, not an assertion! And I have this opinion cause other than the top cap that becomes bottom cap and the differences of the rotating knob, nothing else has improved in this unit AFAIK… And I hate the PAX, I was just making a point of how much I think the INH05 will suck. Again, this is my opinion. It's just that I believe it's well justified.
About taking a shot at Greg now… I just said I am not impressed...
It's a small shot compared to what me and my bro have gone through since the XP came out. First, they sent us the 2 XPs with the 4 holes and they all break in a few days. First replacements came broken as well! Second replacements went to the wrong address! Final replacements came after more than a year later from the initial problems and the result of all these is that we didn't have working XPs for more than a year, we spent money for shipping broken XPs back and no refund was given to us when we asked for one after all this trouble. They kept saying wait for the next batch with no problems, wait for the next batch that heats better etc… The final replacements are as conduction based as it can get, I will explain later… So I finally put a face at all those fuck-ups and yes, I am not impressed with Greg! So what? It's not that I called him a bad name...About the convection/conduction thing… I have explained this over at the XP's thread more than once but the main issue I have about the design having a VERY SMALL convection action is that the heater in your INH 004 and mine was a coil and a very hot one that caused hot spots in the herb capsule. But it did heat the air before it entered the capsule. With the new ribbon heaters there is just not enough power to keep the air stream at the set vaporization temperature. And that shows in the vapor production through a glass piece or a vapor lung. It's exactly like the Pax's and the rest of conduction units. It starts thick and diminishes rapidly after that!!! With convection and heaters that can keep up with the draw the vapor production is continuous and if it's a strong heater the vapor can become thicker as you draw. With the Xp and the 05 if nothing has been changed in the heating department the ribbons heat to the desired temp but then they immediately begin to loose heat with the first cool air that enters the device while drawing. After that initial hot stream of hot air there is no more convection cause simply the ribbons cannot handle even MFLB like draws! I witness such vapor production in all the vids that are around. And that's why we don't see prolonged draws. Cause very little vapor comes out after the initial vapor formed in the chamber due to conduction. And then we see a guy saying that that the XP produces big clouds and another guy saying that he can barely see the vapor and needs a flashlight under the mouth…
The Bud Toaster and the Solo is almost the same design but they have a powerful coil (SS bowl in the Solo case) to support a nice even draw. The Firefly can also handle a relatively fast draw cause it's coil is burning red hot. The INH 004 could also support a nice draw. The XP though and the 05, if it still has ribbon heater, just can't! I wish I was in the states so I can personally come with an XP and prove these all to you but my poor English is the only means I have to protect a few members around here from throwing away their money. I am not mean. I am just saying things the way I see them with my own eyes. Had you any experience with an XP? I had a lot!
Yellokat1000
Inhalator shill account
What's the impossible assertion I made here??? That I would prefer the Pax at this point? That's an opinion, not an assertion! And I have this opinion cause other than the top cap that becomes bottom cap and the differences of the rotating knob, nothing else has improved in this unit AFAIK… And I hate the PAX, I was just making a point of how much I think the INH05 will suck. Again, this is my opinion. It's just that I believe it's well justified.
About taking a shot at Greg now… I just said I am not impressed...
About the convection/conduction thing… I have explained this over at the XP's thread more than once but the main issue I have about the design having a VERY SMALL convection action is that the heater in your INH 004 and mine was a coil and a very hot one that caused hot spots in the herb capsule. But it did heat the air before it entered the capsule. With the new ribbon heaters there is just not enough power to keep the air stream at the set vaporization temperature. And that shows in the vapor production through a glass piece or a vapor lung. It's exactly like the Pax's and the rest of conduction units. It starts thick and diminishes rapidly after that!!! With convection and heaters that can keep up with the draw the vapor production is continuous and if it's a strong heater the vapor can become thicker as you draw. With the Xp and the 05 if nothing has been changed in the heating department the ribbons heat to the desired temp but then they immediately begin to loose heat with the first cool air that enters the device while drawing. After that initial hot stream of hot air there is no more convection cause simply the ribbons cannot handle even MFLB like draws! I witness such vapor production in all the vids that are around. And that's why we don't see prolonged draws. Cause very little vapor comes out after the initial vapor formed in the chamber due to conduction. And then we see a guy saying that that the XP produces big clouds and another guy saying that he can barely see the vapor and needs a flashlight under the mouth…
I wish I was in the states so I can personally come with an XP and prove these all to you but my poor English is the only means I have to protect a few members around here from throwing away their money. I am not mean. I am just saying things the way I see them with my own eyes. Had you any experience with an XP? I had a lot!
Hey man, I can tell you've had quite an issue with the XP , I understand it can be frustrating having to deal with a unit that did not work to a 100%, but why take a cheap shot at Greg? What makes you allowed to judge someone like that?
1) The XP Q1 - Q2 - Q3 is no longer of this earth so RELAX and vaporize. You've done a great job of bad mouthing the XP - congrats ~
2) How can you compare the INH05 to the XP ? It's not even available yet, do you have psychic powers or perhaps a fluxcapacitor ?
The truth is, once the unit will be available, only then youll be able to review the device and give you're honest opinion. For now you keep can keep pooring your heart out based on youre assumptions and bad experiences.
You can even travel all the way to the U.S and try to prove your point however don't be surprised if their a huge fan base of Inhalater supporters. Pharmacore is a small company that focuses on technology and development rather then funding marketing campaigns for products to flood the martkets for the sole purpose of sales.
Beleive and chill ..
Chill bro
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