Immune system vs. cannabis

Have you found cannabis use to increase illness frequency?

  • Yes, but it’s worth it.

  • No, just the opposite, I never get sick since I started using.

  • I’m not sure yet.


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C No Ego

Well-Known Member
Wow, that is incredibly helpful. Thank you so much for sharing!
glad to help out... the phytocannabinoids ( cannabinoids) are mainly responsible for keeping cells in a state of homeostasis via how they metabolically express @ receptors as intracellular adjustment messages ( retrograde signals) in our brains. the immune system via cannabinoid type 2 receptors helps keep that action potential actively expressing @ all times by connecting through the endocannabinoid system back to the brain... 2 arachidonoylglycerol ( 2-AG) is the main endogenous Arachidonic acid derived cannabinoid ligand that works through CB2 receptor and modulates that CNS retrograde information via cellular back cross talk and lipid rafts/ signal transduction . action explained somewhat here https://www.bionity.com/en/encyclopedia/Lipid_signaling.html
 

Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
Against colds we sometimes did make hot cannabis infused milk with honey and a little alcohol like whisky or rum, add some ground black pepper for severe cases.
Drink this in the evening, when you feel a cold or cough coming, go to bed and sleep alot and well.
The next day the cold often was gone.
 

just_the_flu

they say im crazy but i have a good time
Have you found cannabis use to increase illness frequency?


...not trying to be a dick or whatever... but if cannabis increased illness why would it be so widely used in the medical field and have so many medicinal/health benefits?


...like i said not trying to be a dick... i use cannabis pretty heavily and the worse illness i've had in over 20 years is the common cold, which i get about twice a year coincidentally when the seasons change...
 
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Dyna-saur
...not trying to be a dick or whatever... but if cannabis increased illness why would it be so widely used in the medical field and have so many medicinal/health benefits?


...like i said not trying to be a dick... i use cannabis pretty heavily and the worse illness i've had in over 20 years is the common cold, which i get about twice a year coincidentally when the seasons change...
Many many medications “fix” one symptom while aggravating another. It’s incredible how many side effects commonly prescribed medications have. Also at one point cannabis was thought to possibly impair the immune system. My question stems from things such as these.

Against colds we sometimes did make hot cannabis infused milk with honey and a little alcohol like whisky or rum, add some ground black pepper for severe cases.
Drink this in the evening, when you feel a cold or cough coming, go to bed and sleep alot and well.
The next day the cold often was gone.
I have GOT to try this. Thanks for sharing!
 

ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
Mono is nothing to mess with, it can damage your immune system if you don’t get enough rest - and that means not pushing hard AT ALL, physically and emotionally. Refusing to rest, being “a bad patient” will at the very least prolong the period of recovery you require. I didn’t have access to cannabis when I had it (‘71-‘72), but if it’s easily tolerated by your body, I’d use it as I could.

Since I began my career as a heavy head, I’ve gotten sick very little, after a childhood and adolescence in which I was frequently sick with congestive fevers. In a typical year, I’ll get sick once or not at all, aand typically I’ll continue cannabis with no ill or compound effects. This year, the coughing has been horrific, they’ve been too many instances where I feared I would drown in my own phlegm, which has brought me to the brink of fucking combustion entirely.
 

just_the_flu

they say im crazy but i have a good time
Many many medications “fix” one symptom while aggravating another. It’s incredible how many side effects commonly prescribed medications have.


...i agree completely... i guess my point i missed was if cannabis increased illness, being an (in most places) illegal substance, why would they study and use it so much for medical use if there are many other alternatives? yes some alternatives might exaggerate other symptoms, but i'd bet not all do?


...and IF cannabis increased illnesses would that not be used by the anti-pot group(s)? in my opinion because they don't, or even use that point as propaganda, almost proves for itself that cannabis does not increase illness on the average (i'm sure there's something that cannabis will trigger further???)
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
...i agree completely... i guess my point i missed was if cannabis increased illness, being an (in most places) illegal substance, why would they study and use it so much for medical use if there are many other alternatives? yes some alternatives might exaggerate other symptoms, but i'd bet not all do?


...and IF cannabis increased illnesses would that not be used by the anti-pot group(s)? in my opinion because they don't, or even use that point as propaganda, almost proves for itself that cannabis does not increase illness on the average (i'm sure there's something that cannabis will trigger further???)
Funny how most of the top NBA players go 2 Germany 4 repair? (StemCells)
POT/CANNABIS work’s 2 heal many conditions?
Don’t tell anyone!
 

Grey hair

Flop shot guru
Mono is nothing to mess with, it can damage your immune system if you don’t get enough rest - and that means not pushing hard AT ALL, physically and emotionally. Refusing to rest, being “a bad patient” will at the very least prolong the period of recovery you require. I didn’t have access to cannabis when I had it (‘71-‘72), but if it’s easily tolerated by your body, I’d use it as I could.

Since I began my career as a heavy head, I’ve gotten sick very little, after a childhood and adolescence in which I was frequently sick with congestive fevers. In a typical year, I’ll get sick once or not at all, aand typically I’ll continue cannabis with no ill or compound effects. This year, the coughing has been horrific, they’ve been too many instances where I feared I would drown in my own phlegm, which has brought me to the brink of fucking combustion entirely.
Yep.
I hear ya on the mono thing.
Got it in college. 2 weeks of Christmas was spent sleeping.
Knew a gal in high school who contracted it.got so bad she reverted back to a second child hood state of mind for a month or so.

Don't mess with it.

All that said, on a completely different thought, I had a great micro dose day.
Nailed it.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Yep.
I hear ya on the mono thing.
Got it in college. 2 weeks of Christmas was spent sleeping.
Knew a gal in high school who contracted it.got so bad she reverted back to a second child hood state of mind for a month or so.

Don't mess with it.

All that said, on a completely different thought, I had a great micro dose day.
Nailed it.
Really?
MICRO DOSING?

Why?
 

analytika

Well-Known Member
Yep.
I hear ya on the mono thing.
Got it in college. 2 weeks of Christmas was spent sleeping.
Knew a gal in high school who contracted it.got so bad she reverted back to a second child hood state of mind for a month or so.

Don't mess with it.

All that said, on a completely different thought, I had a great micro dose day.
Nailed it.
I didn't know that Epstein Barr is simply the modern name for mono.
 
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Dyna-saur
Really?
MICRO DOSING?

Why?
Microdosing is where it’s at! Same effects, less material. It’s a win win. Efficiency is civilized.

I didn't know that Epstein Barr is simply the modern name for mono.

??? - I had *no* idea, and that’s the kind of thing I tend to stay up on....

Sort of. As I understand it MANY people have the Epstein Barr virus in their bodies dormant once they have been exposed. That’s why most adults don’t get mono, they have already had it or been exposed to the virus. Adults typically only get Mono if they have a compromised immune system. Mono is when the virus isn’t dormant, and your body is actively shedding the virus so you are more contagious via any body fluid.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Unfortunately I'm not the complete master of my domain and can't vape freely . I use to be when I was self employed. Now I work for 'The Man' . Not so bad though.I'm left alone, for the most part.
Maybe I'll resort back to the good ole days and sign my own cheques.
Thanks for checking in @ataxian .
Keeping me honest...
It’s so cheap we’re I live?
I hear this fuss about the need 2 micro dose?
Where do they practice that?

Just sounds like some kind of CULT BEHAVIOR?
 

Grey hair

Flop shot guru
It’s so cheap we’re I live?
I hear this fuss about the need 2 micro dose?
Where do they practice that?

Just sounds like some kind of CULT BEHAVIOR?
Agreed. It's cheap.:nod:
The need to micro dose comes from the need to function safely in my work environment. Many moving parts.:uhoh:

Aren't we all a member of some cult?:hmm:

Life is great. My needs are simple.

Stay cool my cyber friend.:myday:
 

C No Ego

Well-Known Member
It’s so cheap we’re I live?
I hear this fuss about the need 2 micro dose?
Where do they practice that?

Just sounds like some kind of CULT BEHAVIOR?
micro dose also initiates your intracellular Arachidonic acid metabolites to signal more efficiently.. cannabis actives (phytocannabinoids) have down regulatory potential... cannabinoids work down stream to bolster cell function, to much pressure from exogenous cannabinoids can up regulate that function which can be to much basically...
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
micro dose also initiates your intracellular Arachidonic acid metabolites to signal more efficiently.. cannabis actives (phytocannabinoids) have down regulatory potential... cannabinoids work down stream to bolster cell function, to much pressure from exogenous cannabinoids can up regulate that function which can be to much basically...
Did you know that the advance CIVILIZED world existed before the ice age?
You can MICRO DOSE all you want.

I like 2 have a large size GonG, BASKET full of CANNABIS 4 FLAVOR/EFFECT 2 ENJOY LIFE on the PALE BLUE DOT we live on!
 

C No Ego

Well-Known Member
Did you know that the advance CIVILIZED world existed before the ice age?
You can MICRO DOSE all you want.

I like 2 have a large size GonG, BASKET full of CANNABIS 4 FLAVOR/EFFECT 2 ENJOY LIFE on the PALE BLUE DOT we live on!
each persons tolerance and endocannabinoid tone determines their dose for sure... beginning cannabis users benefit from micro dose tolerance the most IMO. people using CBD only is basically like micro dosing because CBD initiates that Arachidonic acid cascade and all the intracellular enzymes/catalysts that biodegrade cannabinoids in cannabinoid receptors
 

Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
each persons tolerance and endocannabinoid tone determines their dose for sure... beginning cannabis users benefit from micro dose tolerance the most IMO. people using CBD only is basically like micro dosing because CBD initiates that Arachidonic acid cascade and all the intracellular enzymes/catalysts that biodegrade cannabinoids in cannabinoid receptors

Just from my personal experience I do not believe CBD only to have the same effect as micro dosing.
Depending on your individual/ailments and the effect you are looking for it can be very similar, but I think it is not the same.
If someone cannot get the desired effects with CBD only, it may be still worth trying micro dosing (or macro dosing, or mega dosing anyway) and vice-versa. (Or even homeopathic dilutions)
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
Just from my personal experience I do not believe CBD only to have the same effect as micro dosing.
Depending on your individual/ailments and the effect you are looking for it can be very similar, but I think it is not the same.
If someone cannot get the desired effects with CBD only, it may be still worth trying micro dosing (or macro dosing, or mega dosing anyway) and vice-versa. (Or even homeopathic dilutions)
4-me CBD is fine for some.
However I need THC 4 MEDICAL needs.
Micro DOSING is OK 4-some.

When U died does is really Matter?
Keep your EGO in your pocket!
 

C No Ego

Well-Known Member
Just from my personal experience I do not believe CBD only to have the same effect as micro dosing.
Depending on your individual/ailments and the effect you are looking for it can be very similar, but I think it is not the same.
If someone cannot get the desired effects with CBD only, it may be still worth trying micro dosing (or macro dosing, or mega dosing anyway) and vice-versa. (Or even homeopathic dilutions)
certainly different in the cb receptor that is targeted from different phytocannabinoids but similar pathways ETC... micro dosing tends to fit THC mostly as it is a direct agonist and effects are instantly recognized. CBD as antagonist takes more time to have effect and not as noticed ETC...
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
certainly different in the cb receptor that is targeted from different phytocannabinoids but similar pathways ETC... micro dosing tends to fit THC mostly as it is a direct agonist and effects are instantly recognized. CBD as antagonist takes more time to have effect and not as noticed ETC...
4-give me 4 jumping on you mentally.

I have a strong conviction of the benefits of CANNABIS.

MICRO DOSE sounds like economics 2-me?
Maybe my opinion is different than yours?
 

hibeam

alpha +
Pre vaporizing days I thought it was the cannabis that made me more miserable during a cold, but now I know it was the combustion. Also vitamin D/sunshine was lacking. Since in the medical program getting clean flower to vape daily, I have the sense of a constant plant residue in my upper respiratory tract that FEELS GOOD all the time. Balmy. I wonder if the anti viral/bacterial action is strong this way? I vape at low temps.
 
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