How did Donald Trump Win?

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lwien

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You really believe a coup attempt is possible?

If you would have asked me that question before Trump won the primaries, I would have said no fucking way but considering the emotional make-up of this man along with his total lack of understanding about how things work outside of the financial arena and the danger that this brings to all of us from a national security perspective, yes, I think the impossible may actually be possible.

A coup in the US is so outside the box of possibilities but then, so is a Trump presidency.

He may actually resign before any of this takes place though.

On a side note, did ya listen to Trump talking about all of our high flying assets on national TV during his meeting with Obama after he got the intelligence briefings. WTF was THAT? He had the look on his face of a kid in a candy store gettin' all excited about our high flying assets. THAT is not something that you just casually bring up on national TV.
 
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HighSeasSailor

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Well, I'm definitely done with this thread. On this page alone we have FC regulars accusing others of being too high to think straight, implying that those who voted differently must have an underlying racist motive, and now suggesting a coup.

Sanity has left the building, and so will I. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail after the hangover wears off.
 

Scott A

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If you would have asked me that question before Trump won the primaries, I would have said no fucking way but considering the emotional make-up of this man along with his total lack of understanding about how things work outside of the financial arena and the danger that this brings to all of us from a national security perspective, yes, I think the impossible may actually be possible.

A coup in the US is so outside the box of possibilities but then, so is a Trump presidency.
So you really believe the ridiculousness you say? I guess as far as your posting points to you would even be in favor of the coup?
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Mike Pence wanted funerals for miscarriages and abortions in his state. Pence is a whack job and allows his religion to rule his life. That's OK but it interferes with his ability to govern. I don't want a minister for a president if Trump decides to quit. That would be worse.

You don't know @lwien very well. A very smart and intelligent person who puts a lot of thought in what he says. Who knows what will happen in the future. Anything is possible when we are dealing with such an unstable person as Trump. Yes he's unstable.

I was joking above. Sorry if anyone took offense regarding vaping. I don't want any hurt feelings. This is a discussion. No sense in getting angry if we don't agree. Just walk away from the thread if it's too heated.

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gaseous_clay

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Well, I'm definitely done with this thread. On this page alone we have FC regulars accusing others of being too high to think straight, implying that those who voted differently must have an underlying racist motive, and now suggesting a coup.

Sanity has left the building, and so will I. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail after the hangover wears off.
Sanity left the building on Tuesday.

The USA is the laughingstock of the planet. And it's well earned.
 

lwien

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..now suggesting a coup.

I NEVER suggested a coup. All I said was the possibility of it happening.

And as far as me being in favor of it, I'll put it this way. If there is a real danger of this idiot launching nuclear missiles because he feels that he's not being treated fairly or because of his impulsiveness taking over, than yes, I would be in favor but I don't think that it would come to that being that I'm sure that there are some constitutional safeguards built into our system to relieve a President of his responsibilities if it was deemed that he/she was not mentally capable of holding the position.

I'm thinking of something faster than what would happen in impeachment proceedings.

Then again, there may be a way for the government/military to keep his hands away from...........the football.
 
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Scott A

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Mike Pence wanted funerals for miscarriages and abortions in his state. Pence is a whack job and allows his religion to rule his life. That's OK but it interferes with his ability to govern. I don't want a minister for a president if Trump decides to quit. That would be worse.

You don't know @lwien very well. A very smart and intelligent person who puts a lot of thought in what he says. Who knows what will happen in the future. Anything is possible when we are dealing with such an unstable person as Trump. Yes he's unstable.

I was joking above. Sorry if anyone took offense regarding vaping. I don't want any hurt feelings. This is a discussion. No sense in getting angry if we don't agree. Just walk away from the thread if it's too heated.
It is hilarious that you chastise me for personal attacks while making your own. If you seriously think there is a chance for a coup attempt you have problems.
 
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HighSeasSailor

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I NEVER suggested a coup. All I said was the possibility of it happening.

And as far as me being in favor of it, I'll put it this way. If there is a real danger of this idiot launching nuclear missiles because he feels that he's not being treated fairly or because of his impulsiveness taking over, than yes, I would be in favor but I don't think that it would come to that being that I'm sure that there are some constitutional safeguards built into our system to relieve a President of his responsibilities if it was deemed that he/she was not mentally capable of holding the position.

I'm thinking of something faster than what would happen in impeachment proceedings.

Ok, so you never suggested a coup, you support a coup?

You're discussing, with some relish, the possibility of overthrowing the government, while breathlessly painting a doomsday scenario. Topping it off by mentioning that this would be faster than legal channels.

That's insanity. You're talking from both sides of your mouth, saying something while not owning it, and those words are madness.

Good day. Please do not contact me further. I see you are unable to rein in your emotion, and virtually all of your interactions with me have been to make thinly veiled accusations to my character, or to defend indefensible comments. I wish you would step back before saying such things in a public venue.
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
I think we all need some comic relief. Real Time I hope is good. They will be down in the dumps and depressed like the rest of us. I need some comedy after this stressful week. David Alexrod will be on. The voice of reason.

Sometimes you just need to ignore.:science:
 

Stevenski

Enter the Dragon
As a global citizen I am far more terrified of Pence having a "vision from God" & doing something catastrophic for the planet. Trump can be guided by his ego & save face by "negotiating a win for 'Murica" whereas Pence genuinely strikes me as a old testament kind of fuckhead who is utterly devoid of compassion.

If anyone wants a laugh I would suggest escaping with a mindless comedy movie or series over political commentary/humour. There is not much funny going on & it may make you despair more than laugh.
 

gaseous_clay

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Sorry, I don't feel comically today. :peace:

I don't laugh anymore. Nothing is funny.

As far as a coup, I highly doubt it. I think there was a scare that went through this government in the 1960's that they wanted to eliminate. How do you do that? Give the people something to occupy them. Credit did the trick. Now you can buy everything you want & not have to actually have the money to do it. As an added bonus, you end up paying the bankers a hell of a lot more for what you want than the actual price.

The only coup I could see would be if a war this administration starts needs soldiers, and they don't get enough volunteers. I would hope that people today would say "Fuck you. Jail me. I'm not getting killed for you. Besides, like trump one of my feet hurts. Like him, I don't know which one. Like him, it may be perfectly fine when I walk out the door."

There better not be any POW's. Their new president already expressed that he doesn't like people who get captured. Happy Veterans Day!

And yes, I said "Their president." One thing I picked up the last eight years is you don't have to have a shred of respect for the occupant of the White House.
 

Scott A

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As a global citizen I am far more terrified of Pence having a "vision from God" & doing something catastrophic for the planet. Trump can be guided by his ego & save face by "negotiating a win for 'Murica" whereas Pence genuinely strikes me as a old testament kind of fuckhead who is utterly devoid of compassion.

If anyone wants a laugh I would suggest escaping with a mindless comedy movie or series over political commentary/humour. There is not much funny going on & it may make you despair more than laugh.
You are terrified over what the VP would do?
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
@Scott A do you know anything about Mike Pence? He has some really weird ideas even to the average person. If Trump decides to quit we would be left with Mr. Pence. That would be worse than Trump. it's just not a good situation any way you look at it.

As Bill Maher just said, brace for impact.
 

gaseous_clay

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thisperson

Ruler of all things person
I don't laugh anymore. Nothing is funny.

As far as a coup, I highly doubt it. I think there was a scare that went through this government in the 1960's that they wanted to eliminate. How do you do that? Give the people something to occupy them. Credit did the trick. Now you can buy everything you want & not have to actually have the money to do it. As an added bonus, you end up paying the bankers a hell of a lot more for what you want than the actual price.

The only coup I could see would be if a war this administration starts needs soldiers, and they don't get enough volunteers. I would hope that people today would say "Fuck you. Jail me. I'm not getting killed for you. Besides, like trump one of my feet hurts. Like him, I don't know which one. Like him, it may be perfectly fine when I walk out the door."

There better not be any POW's. Their new president already expressed that he doesn't like people who get captured. Happy Veterans Day!

And yes, I said "Their president." One thing I picked up the last eight years is you don't have to have a shred of respect for the occupant of the White House.

You raise a valid concern regarding the POW's. I wonder how a Drumpf administration will deal with military hostages.

I firmly believe in the policy of no man left behind.

Let's not delegitimize the election process though. Trump will hold the title of US President. I remember an Obama trending thing titled NotMyPresident. That type of shit endangers the peaceful transition of power we have in this country. Something dictator countries probably envy us for.
 

gaseous_clay

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Also, if you wonder about Pence's character... want to know why it's illegal to use campaign funds on anything but the campaign?

Mike Pence.

No, he wasn't against it. The law was written because of him.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...gn-funds-mortgage-golf-fees-article-1.2714118

Not that it kept trump from paying himself a salary and booking events in his own facilities, which he happened to jack up the rent on.
 

Scott A

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@Scott A do you know anything about Mike Pence? He has some really weird ideas even to the average person. If Trump decides to quit we would be left with Mr. Pence. That would be worse than Trump. it's just not a good situation any way you look at it.

As Bill Maher just said, brace for impact.
It doesn't really matter. He is only the VP.
 
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CarolKing

Singer of songs and a vapor connoisseur
Exactly @Scott A a pretty important position being the second in command in America especially when Trump is the president. Need I say more. I think most of us get it, Pence could be president at the blink of an eye. Trump is 70'years old, plus unstable. Reagen probably had early Alzheimer's during the last years of his presidency.

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Anything can happen the VP has to be there to step in. Yes Trump could die, have a stroke, get Alzheimer's or cancer. Trump will be the oldest president starting a first term as president. Trump could be deemed unstable by those around him because of temperament issues.

Pence is opportunistic he's hoping something happens to Trump. He personally doesn't care about Trump.

I love that. I just heard a nice cliche. Trump baked the Fuck You cake and you ate it.
 
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Scott A

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Exactly @Scott A a pretty important position being the second in command in America especially when Trump is the president. Need I say more. I think most of us get it, Pence could be president at the blink of an eye. Trump is 70'years old, plus unstable. Reagen probably had early Alzheimer's during the last years of his presidency.
I really don't get your point? You think Trump will die in 4 years?
 

gaseous_clay

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Let's not delegitimize the election process though. Trump will hold the title of US President. I remember an Obama trending thing titled NotMyPresident. That type of shit endangers the peaceful transition of power we have in this country. Something dictator countries probably envy us for.

I don't even wish I could respect him. I do not. There is nothing about him I respect.

I find him repulsive. From his well discussed treatment of women to his business practices.

Every business practice I have researched I find disgusting. When he built his trump tower, he tore down the department store that was on the site. There were some beautiful Art Deco murals on the building that a museum wanted. Publicly he agreed to allow the museum to have them if it didn't cause a great delay or cost too much. The museum had it estimated that it would delay the demo 10 days & cost about $15,000. Trump had his crew jackhammer them at 6am, then claimed saving them would have delayed the demo 6 months and cost millions. The only thing trump cares about preserving is his name on buildings.

I called Bush president. I disagreed with everything he did as president. I do believe however he is a fundamentally decent human being. From what I have read, he went to war in Iraq being told that line about it being a simple operation & they would welcome us with open arms (and it would help spread Christianity, which was important to him... not that I agree with that at all.)

I do not believe trump is a fundamentally decent person.

I cannot call him my president. His name even in the history books along with even Nixon is something beyond bewildering. He makes Nixon look like Jesus.

In fact, I would not be against dividing the nation into two countries & giving everybody a year to move to the nation that they want to be a part of. The people who want to live with him as president and an economy that closely resembles Brownback's Kansas could go there & build a wall to keep us out. Give us Bernie & Democratic Socialism. That wall would come in handy when their banks crash, their bridges & roads collapse... and we're enjoying universal health care.

The direction of this nation disgusts me. Remember, it's not just trump. Zimmerman is allowed to attack a 17 year old, then kill him when the kid fought back. Innocent! The Bundy clan plans an armed takeover over a government building & holds it for quite some time. When they're finally arrested & tried for it, even their lawyers were shocked. “My client was arrested in a government truck, and he was acquitted of taking that truck."

The right-wing radicals in this country see a return to when they considered America "great." Remember, it wasn't until 1968 that a white man was even convicted in Detroit of murdering a black man. Yes. In 1967 Detroit, every single white man ever taken to trial for the murder of a black man was found innocent by an all white jury. THAT is what they heard from their candidate when he repeated the slogan he trademarked & sells on hats.

He may be about to become president of my country, but he will never represent me. I'd actually rather see the White House bulldozed than have him spend a day living there.

I really don't get your point? You think Trump will die in 4 years?

I actually wouldn't be surprised. He isn't exactly in good shape, is 71 years old, and is about to take the most stressful job in the world. We see how it ages people. He is older than Bill Clinton, and look at Bill. Look at the change in Obama. He also has a doctor that supposedly tells him that nobody has ever been healthier, which if we go by his personality he probably just fired every doctor that told him differently. He's a massive heart attack waiting to happen.

Then there is his "Second Amendment" crowd who may not like it if he doesn't live up to all his crazy promises...
 

Scott A

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Does it not seem like some of you guys are reaching very hard to find damning things about Trump? Seriously who gives a fuck about some art deco shit getting destroyed in a real estate project?

Edit- even going as far to fear mongering about Trump's health
 
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