Homemade Vaporizers

2clicker

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Egzoset said:
Nice pictures (and article), now we can see a typical ceramic heating element in its full glory:

http://www.goot.com.ua/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/dynamic/GOOT_PX_2H_Replacement_heater.jpg

http://easyelectronics.ru/img/Instrument/GOOT-PX-201/px201-ceramic.jpg

Talk about having a close view!

:cool:

hakko element
A1177_mid.jpg
 
2clicker,

2clicker

Observer
2clicker said:

after more use with this version im very happy. its far outperforming my other hakko vape in just about every way possible. we have been passing the tube around and hitting it hard. every hit chalks nicely.

the only upside to the 456 version over the 556SE version is the non click dial. but even with the click dial the 556SE is superior IMO. much more portable and less to deal with. it mated easier to the DBV glassware than the 456 did. overall just easier, but it is a little more expensive.
 
2clicker,

2clicker

Observer
after even more use of the hakko vape iron V2 ive since wanted more of a "multi purpose" bowl. one that would work as a wand as well as a slide for a bong or bubbler. so this is what i came up with.
slideconcepts14x191-1.jpg


i contacted a few artist on etsy and placed an order with a couple of them. here is the first one ive received. good price and super fast.
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here it is kecked to the hakko V2. this works very well if using multiple water pieces... or just one really. you just pull the whole thing and clear. then you can shake it to stir. i have also installed a screen in the female gong joint of the heater cover so the material is sandwiched between screens.
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attached to my left coast beaker
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i dont have any pics of it being used as a wand/whip, but the standard 7th floor tubing fits onto the 14mm end so its basically just a shorter version of a DBV wand.
 
2clicker,

2clicker

Observer
Hippie Dickie said:
nicely done! vapor tastes better from a home-made vape, imho.

thanks!

the hakko V2 combined with this bowl makes for the perfect travel companion. my main reason for even looking into the hakko stuff was purely based on how portable it is. but since then it has become my go-to almost every time even at home. it can be mounted (small mic stand or something) and used just like a SSV/DBV, or it can be used as a wand style vape with or without the bowl/wand kecked to it. very versatile vape indeed. and still pretty inconspicuous. im fairly certain that if no herb or resin are found with it that a cop would just dismiss it. i do carry a replacement tip and sleeve with me as well as some solder. in hopes that it makes it seem more legit.

i have also been quietly been keeping an eye on your toaster... looks like a very nice stealthy piece :brow:
 
2clicker,

Egzoset

Banned
Euh...

Just for the sake of curiosity, how difficult would it be for a glass-blower (from Etsy or elsewhere?) to produce a flat round glass plate with well defined holes as pictured in this illustration:

k03m1c.jpg


...well, if that's even possible at all to begin with...
 
Egzoset,

Egzoset

Banned
Hi,

The short answer is i don't know much about glass work. I figure artisanal glass blowers depend on ready-made tubing and GonG joint parts which only need to be heated before bending and/or fusing together, etc. But not always: they become artists when colourful pieces are released, those are cases where i suspect precision and art don't reconcile easily though... Glass work is a new subject for me, you can be sure i'll use the link you provided in hope i learn something about glass drilling methods, etc.

Thank you.

:)
 
Egzoset,

Revvy

Well-Known Member
Does anyone have experience with Adams & Chittenden? Looks like they can make some pretty neat custom pieces.

So here's my new idea for an all glass air path using a two-piece heat cover for the Hakko 936:
dHBND.png


The glass heat cover screws onto the wand using the wand's threading and holds down the ground spring, much like the provided metal heat cover does.

The glass heat cover cover slides over the heat cover and connects with a ground glass connection. The space inbetween the two covers can be filled with glass beads for improved air heating.

Hopefully I can get something like this made for me after the holidays.
 
Revvy,

Egzoset

Banned
What's been done with the Hakko soldering iron lately seems most certainly creative, achieving purity in such a relatively simple manner would make it so attractive i wonder if this won't threaten other brands/products... I like the idea of using glass pellets to increase the thermal mass, which in turn should help to improve heat regulation if the amount is right i suppose. This will slow down the heater but the question i have is this: would that result in a significant trade-off, hopefully a positive one?
 
Egzoset,

2clicker

Observer
Revvy said:
Does anyone have experience with Adams & Chittenden? Looks like they can make some pretty neat custom pieces.

So here's my new idea for an all glass air path using a two-piece heat cover for the Hakko 936:
http://imgur.com/dHBND.png

The glass heat cover screws onto the wand using the wand's threading and holds down the ground spring, much like the provided metal heat cover does.

The glass heat cover cover slides over the heat cover and connects with a ground glass connection. The space inbetween the two covers can be filled with glass beads for improved air heating.

Hopefully I can get something like this made for me after the holidays.


dude before you have this made ill have to show you my concept... its very similar

basically the current hakko nut holds down the rim of a gong reducing joint. this joint has an enclosed sleeve on the end of it just like your drawing. in fact think of a low profile downstem, but enclosed with no holes. if you could picture that in a 14mm...? then the outer cover comes down over that with a 14mm female gong joint to attach the two. then they are keck clipped together (plastic or metal should work).

make sense? ill have to do a photochop job cuz i really think it would work like a stock product.
 
2clicker,

Revvy

Well-Known Member
2clicker said:
Revvy said:
Does anyone have experience with Adams & Chittenden? Looks like they can make some pretty neat custom pieces.

So here's my new idea for an all glass air path using a two-piece heat cover for the Hakko 936:
http://imgur.com/dHBND.png

The glass heat cover screws onto the wand using the wand's threading and holds down the ground spring, much like the provided metal heat cover does.

The glass heat cover cover slides over the heat cover and connects with a ground glass connection. The space inbetween the two covers can be filled with glass beads for improved air heating.

Hopefully I can get something like this made for me after the holidays.


dude before you have this made ill have to show you my concept... its very similar

basically the current hakko nut holds down the rim of a gong reducing joint. this joint has an enclosed sleeve on the end of it just like your drawing. in fact think of a low profile downstem, but enclosed with no holes. if you could picture that in a 14mm...? then the outer cover comes down over that with a 14mm female gong joint to attach the two. then they are keck clipped together (plastic or metal should work).

make sense? ill have to do a photochop job cuz i really think it would work like a stock product.
That design makes alot of sense with the 456 but it wouldn't work with 936 due to the different nut/flange and shorter element. Really wish I had went with the 456 :/
 
Revvy,

2clicker

Observer
Revvy said:
2clicker said:
Revvy said:
Does anyone have experience with Adams & Chittenden? Looks like they can make some pretty neat custom pieces.

So here's my new idea for an all glass air path using a two-piece heat cover for the Hakko 936:
http://imgur.com/dHBND.png

The glass heat cover screws onto the wand using the wand's threading and holds down the ground spring, much like the provided metal heat cover does.

The glass heat cover cover slides over the heat cover and connects with a ground glass connection. The space inbetween the two covers can be filled with glass beads for improved air heating.

Hopefully I can get something like this made for me after the holidays.


dude before you have this made ill have to show you my concept... its very similar

basically the current hakko nut holds down the rim of a gong reducing joint. this joint has an enclosed sleeve on the end of it just like your drawing. in fact think of a low profile downstem, but enclosed with no holes. if you could picture that in a 14mm...? then the outer cover comes down over that with a 14mm female gong joint to attach the two. then they are keck clipped together (plastic or metal should work).

make sense? ill have to do a photochop job cuz i really think it would work like a stock product.
That design makes alot of sense with the 456 but it wouldn't work with 936 due to the different nut/flange and shorter element. Really wish I had went with the 456 :/

actually thats the 556, but yes it works great on the 456

wasnt sure of the specs of it
 
2clicker,

2clicker

Observer
never shared this photo for some reason, but here it is

i was looking for different ways to mount the hakkos so that a whip could be used hands free

here is one of the solutions i came up with. its a craftsman swivel vise with a vacuum suction base. it can be adjusted in all kinds of ways allowing you to angle the heater cover however you like.
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it works extremely well and i just had it laying around the basement. we have also used a small desktop mic stand, but i dont have any pics of that i use.
 
2clicker,

khalifafan

Well-Known Member
2clicker said:
after even more use of the hakko vape iron V2 ive since wanted more of a "multi purpose" bowl. one that would work as a wand as well as a slide for a bong or bubbler. so this is what i came up with.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/slideconcepts14x191-1.jpg

i contacted a few artist on etsy and placed an order with a couple of them. here is the first one ive received. good price and super fast.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/-2.jpg

here it is kecked to the hakko V2. this works very well if using multiple water pieces... or just one really. you just pull the whole thing and clear. then you can shake it to stir. i have also installed a screen in the female gong joint of the heater cover so the material is sandwiched between screens.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/-1-2.jpg

attached to my left coast beaker
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/-4-1.jpg

i dont have any pics of it being used as a wand/whip, but the standard 7th floor tubing fits onto the 14mm end so its basically just a shorter version of a DBV wand.

Ooh, how much did that cost and who did you get to make it on etsy? :)
 
khalifafan,

2clicker

Observer
khalifafan said:
2clicker said:
after even more use of the hakko vape iron V2 ive since wanted more of a "multi purpose" bowl. one that would work as a wand as well as a slide for a bong or bubbler. so this is what i came up with.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/slideconcepts14x191-1.jpg

i contacted a few artist on etsy and placed an order with a couple of them. here is the first one ive received. good price and super fast.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/-2.jpg

here it is kecked to the hakko V2. this works very well if using multiple water pieces... or just one really. you just pull the whole thing and clear. then you can shake it to stir. i have also installed a screen in the female gong joint of the heater cover so the material is sandwiched between screens.
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/-1-2.jpg

attached to my left coast beaker
http://i363.photobucket.com/albums/oo80/SPENCERvex/DBV/-4-1.jpg

i dont have any pics of it being used as a wand/whip, but the standard 7th floor tubing fits onto the 14mm end so its basically just a shorter version of a DBV wand.

Ooh, how much did that cost and who did you get to make it on etsy? :)

glassdistortion from etsy made it. he made it and shipped it the same day i ordered it. very fast service. he charged me $15 + shipping. the only issue i have with it is that the ID of the 19mm joint does not taper with the joint. instead the ID is a straight cylinder... which makes for a smaller bowl. some may find this appealing for efficiency, but im using it mainly with water tools so id like the option of packing larger amounts. even though the bowl is smaller than i wanted the piece works great.

so now ive got 7th Floor making me a couple of them. i sent them the same spec out image and asked that they make them as close to the DBV wands as they can (spec wise). i should have them by tuesday i think. when they come ill get some pics and start ripping through one and post a little review. 7th Floor was fast as well and Jessie worked with me via email making the order process easy. good price also. ive got a feeling that these versions are going to be exactly what im looking for.

pics to come
 
2clicker,

OO

Technical Skeptical
http://www.bellcoglass.com/product_details.aspx?sub_id=160&category_id=11&product_id=3303
This is my current favorite vape for personal vaping over the herbalaire.
i was given one for free, it's essentially a glass straw with a slight pinch with which to pack herbs.
i pack it with fine ground, by sucking it up to the pinch, i then use a bic lighter to heat the glass surrounding the herb, while rotating the straw, i will take slow draws off of it.

it works by conductive heat transfer.
there is a long learning curve, but you get nearly all the compounds at about the same time, like a PD, and really good flavor, like a PD, but also you get an all glass airpath.
 
OO,

2clicker

Observer
2clicker said:
so now ive got 7th Floor making me a couple of them. i sent them the same spec out image and asked that they make them as close to the DBV wands as they can (spec wise). i should have them by tuesday i think. when they come ill get some pics and start ripping through one and post a little review. 7th Floor was fast as well and Jessie worked with me via email making the order process easy. good price also. ive got a feeling that these versions are going to be exactly what im looking for.

i received these pieces today and are indeed exactly what im looking for.
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extremely happy with this version and a great price to boot!

ill update this thread with some pics of it with the hakkos and beaker
 
2clicker,

VWFringe

Naruto Fan
Hakko 456-16 (Fry's $39.)
ss barrel came with
drilled hole about 2" back
(visible are bands cut to cover excessive holes i drilled earlier)
1/2" finish washer in tip held in place by 1/2" circlip (circlip is not ss, but finish washer is)
light dimmer @ 40% ($5.)

mini-whip ($15.)

vape session posted, if you wanna watch an old man taking his medicine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qETlq_TfPdg (new)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wODsqSF-Ehc (new)
http://www.youtube.com/user/VWFringe

the trick has been how far away to set the herb, since the distance from the element to the aperature is only 1/2" (not far enough...so just recess the bowl an inch or 3/4") EDIT: with purchase of mini-whip, screen is fixed distance, so i've turned down the heat

finish washer:
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EDIT: Bought a mini-whip for $15 local at vishions - nice small bowl, keep it turned down to 40% now.
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VWFringe,

nr-cole

Well-Known Member
I'm an idiot and made myself a pickle-jar conduction vape last summer. Functionally it was neat, but the air path sketchy and not well-sealed, the bowl was a brass pipe-cap from home depot, and the tubing definitely wasn't food-grade. It did have variable temp control though thanks to a dimmer switch I rigged up to it. Still, probably not the safest thing in the world, and it's now resting in a dumpster where it belongs.
 
nr-cole,

OhTheAgony

here for the chicks
Did anyone ever try out that 70W Goot PX-201 Stinkmeister describes on page 6 and 7?

The thing is I can get that in a 220V EU version -unlike the Hakko's unfortunately-, but I also noticed it has a starting temperature of 250 C, about a 100 degrees higher than the Hakko's and well above ideal vaping temps.

Safe to assume it's a no go..?

I also posted another possible candidate for my Euro version of the Hakko mod here:

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=118448#p118448

and on the next page. Would you Hakko experts please have a look if it could be usable?
 
OhTheAgony,

VWFringe

Naruto Fan
I believe you would need some type of additional power control, either a 600 w ight dimmer in an outlet box or a mini-phaser like this one, to keep from combusting as they say the lowest it can be set is 250C.

my hakko 456-16 is 60 watts, and is marketted to the stained glass crowd, it's way too hot to vape with alone. i set it to about 40% with a light dimmer, but others have said they have greater control with the mini-phaser. with the light dimmer i only have about 3/16" of control between light tan and dark brown ABV, so it is kind of tight.

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