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Cheebsy

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I'm straight as can be, but I can do gay favors for my herbo settings LOL (that was a joke, and not a prejudiced one). Just trying to describe how much I miss the Herbo after a few days. I think Seb is on holiday so anyone that can help would be greatly appreciated. Maybe no favors like that, but I saw this Real Doll on Howard Stern that should be even better. Kidding again, Help, please! I just need the settings in the 0089 menu. Thanks in advance,
There's some chatter in page 96 and onward about the settings of the PID. Nothing concrete but it's suggested that the settings are similar to the xmt 7100 settings (very common cheap Chinese controller). It might steer you in the right direction anyway :shrug:
 

Alexis

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There's some chatter in page 96 and onward about the settings of the PID. Nothing concrete but it's suggested that the settings are similar to the xmt 7100 settings (very common cheap Chinese controller). It might steer you in the right direction anyway :shrug:
Appreciate your input here mate. I want to help the good fellow, but am full on debilitated by fatigue atm, Long Covid still since September but working it’s way out.

I’ll need a day or two more possibly of rest and essentials before I can spare any energy on non basics but I’ll try as soon as I can.
 

Cheebsy

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It's not much really @Alexis but if seb is away then it might be a place for @bkkbob to start!

Sorry you're suffering with long covid man... That sucks for you on top of all your other health issues. Get well soon mate 👍
 
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bkkbob

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Yeah, I have figured out how to set it now I just need to know the proper setting for the thermocouple type. It's not useable at the moment :(

To get in the settings you just hit <set> 0 > 0 > 8 > 9 > < set >

then you hit up and down to scroll through the settings and hit <set> to view the data, and <set> again to exit back to the list.

Make sure you don't change anything in your settings, but yes it's quite easy to view them The process is explained on page 96, I really just need a few of the settings if someone has the time and patience to tinker for 5-10 minutes :)

Definiteky not Alexis, she should be in bed.
 
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PSb: r: -1000-1000 Fv: 0
rd: r: 0:heat;1:cool. Fv: 0
 

Alexis

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Thanks a million, that was it! :)
I’m so glad mate. Sorry I wasn’t able to help, it wouldn’t have been possible this past week, but I’ve a much better prospect suddenly going forwards now, just major exhaustion to recover.

Modnote: This post has been edited and 10 further posts discussing COVID and conspiracy theories were removed. Let's stay on topic and leave the science to the scientists please. Thank you!
 
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Anyone else have the Micro bowl? Tried it for the first time today and discovered that a fine grind is NOT ideal. :lol: Now wondering if medium will be good enough or if I should go coarse. Feeling kind of lazy atm and hoping to avoid having to clean herb bits out of my bubbler again. Any help/suggestions would be very much appreciated.
 
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Anyone else have the Micro bowl? Tried it for the first time today and discovered that a fine grind is NOT ideal. :lol: Now wondering if medium will be good enough or if I should go coarse. Feeling kind of lazy atm and hoping to avoid having to clean herb bits out of my bubbler again. Any help/suggestions would be very much appreciated.
I have one and use it regularly but not with the glass screen/plug. I use a basket screen upside down so it stays in place when dumping ABV.
 

passenger

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Does anyone have the DigiTi manual as PDF or something available? I couldn't find it on the herborizer homepage.
 
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I'm really late to this thread but am considering getting a Herborizer XL as well as a few other desktop units such as de Verdamper which I loved using in Amsterdam as well as the Aromed 4.0 and the Vapor Brothers VB1 unit. I love the idea of an all glass unit but the lack of precise temp control is a concern of mine. I like to start low around 160C to get those terpy hits and then work my way up. ;-)

I'm looking for a unit that gives excellent vapor quality, has a fully isolated airpath, allows me to microdose and also have longer sessions without reloading. Durability and being able to replace parts are a huge plus as well. I've also thought about just buying the heating element and using with another glass piece or is this a bad idea?

I'm also concerned about the heater which a member on another thread mentioned earlier:

Hmm, there seems to be a titanium-heater in the herborizer?
Over 610°C titan frees up titandioxide, and this stuff is bad for your health (risk of lung-cancer when inhaling).
And the herborizer reaches that temps easily? They tell you to use over 600°C for "free-burning", this is not the temp of the air, but of the heater.

I'd really appreciate any feedback or suggestions that members have on how the Herborizer performs and compares to any of those other desktop units that I mentioned if you have experience with them. Thanks a lot! :)
 

Shadooz

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I'm also concerned about the heater which a member on another thread mentioned earlier:
"Hmm, there seems to be a titanium-heater in the herborizer?
Over 610°C titan frees up titandioxide, and this stuff is bad for your health (risk of lung-cancer when inhaling).
And the herborizer reaches that temps easily? They tell you to use over 600°C for "free-burning", this is not the temp of the air, but of the heater."


To clarify again, titanium dioxyde is what give titanium low oxydation after geting covered by.
Titanium dioxyde is used as food colorant E117 (like in M&Ms etc...)

With gazeous form, it has a low toxicity
But Temp of boiling is 2500C, so...
Only desolidarisation of solid structure could happen, at nanoscopic lvl, when put at 800C and more only.
But u will combust herbs easily around 400C so...

The first high burn off, ~500C 20min, will give the dioxyde titanium coating it's structural strenght. Just do a tissu/kleenex wipe, before and after that first burn off, when cold, and it's done.

But that's about the Ti version.
The XL u look at (the old model) have no titanium. With lower efficiency, slow heat up time, and only knob, no PID as u want precise temp.

I love the idea of an all glass unit but the lack of precise temp control is a concern of mine. I like to start low around 160C to get those terpy hits and then work my way up. ;-)
The DigiTI will be the more precise. with a TI, same knob as the XL, i always come from cold and time it for really precise low temp.
But the TI def can handle precise low temp, the reason i took this one. U will just have to only draw for less than 3sec, it goes fast even at low temp :evil:
But stretching for too long a bowl will end up with popcorn taste, so u will certainly stop session like after enjoying only tasty microdosing hit.
Was stretching an half crafty bowl with 4/5 heat of 2 hits, with the herbo i only go for 2 heat of 1 hit, (and some 1 heat-1 hit too now :evil:).
So easy to reload micro-dose..

I've also thought about just buying the heating element and using with another glass piece or is this a bad idea
Not a bad idea at all. I found the herbo glass too huge volume, when u want to take clean hits. And never like the aggressivness of long thin glass tube, like the mouthpiece.
Air-leaks would be the only risk u take with low grade glass pieces.
 
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About the first time burn off with the DigiTi. The manual only states:
"Before first use, preheat the injector for five minutes"
No more specifics about temperature or anything else, what is the exact recommendation for it?

Is the 500C 20 minutes Burning in recommended by Sebastien? Should it be repeated at some point?
 

Shadooz

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Is the 500C 20 minutes Burning in recommended by Sebastien? Should it be repeated at some point?
It's written on the TI notice to do it
He may have done it at the end of manufacturing, but last batch was hurry new unit, so he may have shorten that phase.
U just have to finish it.
It's something u may have to do again after long storage, not with weekly use.

"Before first use, preheat the injector for five minutes"
No more specifics about temperature or anything else, what is the exact recommendation for it?
it's the normal heatsoak pre heat, when it comes from cold. the numbers will reach the temp sooner, so between 3-5 min before using it. For low temp u can wait less.
The temp will vary for each wishes. I love not "high-temp" hits, easy to found what u like.
This device allow low temp without heatsoaking
 
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passenger

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Can you show a picture how it should look after finishing it? that burning it should take place with the heater glass attached?
 
passenger,
To clarify again, titanium dioxyde is what give titanium low oxydation after geting covered by.
Titanium dioxyde is used as food colorant E117 (like in M&Ms etc...)

With gazeous form, it has a low toxicity
Thank you for clarifying this.

The DigiTI will be the more precise. with a TI, same knob as the XL, i always come from cold and time it for really precise low temp.
But the TI def can handle precise low temp, the reason i took this one. U will just have to only draw for less than 3sec, it goes fast even at low temp :evil:
This sounds like the better option for me. I defintely would like more control over the temps to get the most from those terpenes and then work my way up. ;)
 
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Alexis

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I'm really late to this thread but am considering getting a Herborizer XL as well as a few other desktop units such as de Verdamper which I loved using in Amsterdam as well as the Aromed 4.0 and the Vapor Brothers VB1 unit. I love the idea of an all glass unit but the lack of precise temp control is a concern of mine. I like to start low around 160C to get those terpy hits and then work my way up. ;-)

I'm looking for a unit that gives excellent vapor quality, has a fully isolated airpath, allows me to microdose and also have longer sessions without reloading. Durability and being able to replace parts are a huge plus as well. I've also thought about just buying the heating element and using with another glass piece or is this a bad idea?

I'm also concerned about the heater which a member on another thread mentioned earlier:



I'd really appreciate any feedback or suggestions that members have on how the Herborizer performs and compares to any of those other desktop units that I mentioned if you have experience with them. Thanks a lot! :)
Hi again. I’d really, honestly laugh the XL if you are going to get the VD, which I’d strongly encourage over the XL.

The XL is like a mini, light version of the Verdamper. No Nichrome, it’s SS in the air path but that never concerned me or resulted in any observable negative effects.

Unless you are very hellbent on glass only, don’t worry about any impurity or safety concerns with either the VD or either Herborizer models.

You can actually microdose with the XL, by raising the screen to rest on top of, not fixed underneath, the glass nipples in the bowl, but the XL is as exclusively “designed” for macrodosing as virtually any other desktop.

It’s best with 0.5 grams at least, ideally but can work with less in stock configuration, like 0.33 grams minimum really, just not optimum that way.

The DigiTi is much better tailored for microdosing.

As reported, basket screen in the glass MD bowl is preferred to the annoying glass plug for 3 reasons- first, it overly restricts the airflow, it’s hot as hell and you can only reload after a supposed as quick mini hit, by tipping the glass plug out, which stays hot for a while, and is always covered in ABV like glue.

But VGoodiez did engineer an alternative design for a Ti Microdose bowl using a basket screen which was reported to be superior (shh, don’t tell Sebastien I said that. ;)

But also, many members simply Microdose using the regular Ti bowls, just covering the screen, or 0.05, 0.1, or up to 0.2 for some heavy hardcore vaporists.

If you had the VD for general unlimited, sky’s the limit, any pace and group size you want level of stoning, and the Ti Herbo for a top quality desktop tailored for Microdosing, by conception, without the MD bowl even existing, they would be worthy complements IMO.

If I as an allergy free Martian, free to use any vape, I’d go with the Ti over the XL, anyway, but moreso if I had the Verdamper which tbh as an allergy free Martian I’d probably use daily exclusively, but variety is a good thing.
 
Hi again. I’d really, honestly laugh the XL if you are going to get the VD, which I’d strongly encourage over the XL.

The XL is like a mini, light version of the Verdamper. No Nichrome, it’s SS in the air path but that never concerned me or resulted in any observable negative effects.

Unless you are very hellbent on glass only, don’t worry about any impurity or safety concerns with either the VD or either Herborizer models.
Hi there again! Thanks for the great feedback on both threads. ;)

As reported, basket screen in the glass MD bowl is preferred to the annoying glass plug for 3 reasons- first, it overly restricts the airflow, it’s hot as hell and you can only reload after a supposed as quick mini hit, by tipping the glass plug out, which stays hot for a while, and is always covered in ABV like glue.
That's great advice and such feedback is really valuable for people looking at all different these options.

I've been reading some more about the Herborizer and have some concerns about how easy it is to use in general:

Can someone please kindly go to settings 0089 and scroll through the settings and give me the proper settings for the digiti controller. Mine flaked out and lost the settings and won't work properly. I think I need to re-enter them. Much appreciated.
How difficult is it to set up things up and are there a lot of settings like this? I remember seeing some scanned pages of instructions earlier in this thread and don't know if I have enough patience to go through a thick user's manual just to get things up and running by entering a long string of codes each time. I assume this only applies to the digiti controller and not the XL but maybe I'm missing something... :hmm:
 

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The analogue Ti and the XL use just a dial 1 to 10 it's as easy as can be. The DigiTi should be even easier as you can choose the temperature the coil is running at. That specific question @bkkbob had shouldn't come up in 99% of cases. Correct me if I'm wrong, guys... The Digiti manual has like 6 pages only btw
 

Alexis

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Hi there again! Thanks for the great feedback on both threads. ;)


That's great advice and such feedback is really valuable for people looking at all different these options.

I've been reading some more about the Herborizer and have some concerns about how easy it is to use in general:


How difficult is it to set up things up and are there a lot of settings like this? I remember seeing some scanned pages of instructions earlier in this thread and don't know if I have enough patience to go through a thick user's manual just to get things up and running by entering a long string of codes each time. I assume this only applies to the digiti controller and not the XL but maybe I'm missing something... :hmm:
You’re fully welcome man. So I’ll try to address, as I vape some gorgeous 12 month cured Bluedream yum!

The “Herborizer”, because there are two essentially.

Is very easy to use, do not be put off about that.

That is one of its real real key selling points.

I am speaking of the Ti. Because, the handling of the heater is a “sinch”.

Time machine handy, I’d email Sebastien to redesign the XL’s only real flaw- it’s diddy, awkward glass handle, always slipping, always nearly burning your hand against the bowl, heater itself.

The Ti is handle friendly, easy, safe, tidy, secure. Fast too.

Bowl, load maintenance for view and stirring, reload, easy as, gauze stays clear pretty well.

Other point, the other member, don’t worry he just accidentally pressed some buttons on his DigiTi controller and needed to re-enter the settings I think.

Just use it normally, don’t change anything should be no concern.
 

Shadooz

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Time machine handy, I’d email Sebastien to redesign the XL’s only real flaw- it’s diddy, awkward glass handle, always slipping, always nearly burning your hand against the bowl, heater itself.

The XL was the first vaporizer i tried when buying my mflb in 2012. I bought it for a friends and have it for a week.
But even in 2012 i was more exciting about my mflb :lol: .
The XL was so long to heat up, and it came with no stand back then, so long session only with long heat up time... while having to be carefull due to its size.. the XL tube is really too XL...

but the only other vaporizer i tried, back then, before it, was a homemade lightbulb heated by candles XD. And back then i was only making useless cloud porn...
Wasn't knowing how to make love with her(s). (Them?, time machine handy, i would slap shakespear and dictated him how to blowjob... no plural male/female, i only play with my girls, and cut as soon as i found balls... and conjugaison,... putting an "s" only at third singular form, not even diferentiate sing/plural "you"....)
anyway...
Back then, As a dumber monkey, i was just looking of her biggest simulated noise (cloud), even if the sexual intensity was poor...

Other point, the other member, don’t worry he just accidentally pressed some buttons on his DigiTi controller and needed to re-enter the settings I think.
When he PM me about the digiti settings, he said it was due to a "power surge", which reseted settings. So it's not even due to mis-use.
Maybe one of the easiest to use and clean.
 
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