HerbalTherm 3TM Cooling Stem for VapCap

[Shit Snacks]

Ryan posted this on Instagram, check it out, I won't really be participating here much since I don't care about DynaVap stuff myself...

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[Abysmal Vapor]

@Shit Snacks It would need to have better aesthetics IMO in order to compete. I am too high or people are going to bid from $350 in order to betatest a stem for dynavap or there is more to it ?

 

[Shit Snacks]

@Shit Snacks It would need to have better aesthetics IMO in order to compete. I am too high or people are going to bid from $350 in order to betatest a stem for dynavap or there is more to it ?

Yeah it seems like buying in, not sure what more details there would be for that, but I guess anyone interested should reach out!

 

[b0]

350 is a bit steep IMHO, especially to be a beta tester but hope it's good and worth it. Deffo will follow

 

[FlyingLow]

So one has to buy in at $350 for a beta, that is quite off-putting... but the real burn is the all caps "WORK REQUIRED"!
No fun here, get to work!

 

[cx714]

Shark Tank take: “For the same reason I don’t get farm stays, I’m out.”

 

[oddjobold]

This feels like a cash grab. $350 for a metal cigar tube and some balls? The stem itself is not something that I want or need.

I hope Ryan finds his way soon, and starts coming up with ideas that have more widespread appeal.

Ryan's HSA heater was something magical, such a shame.

 

[RastaBuddhaTao]

Good to see the upbeat and positive vibe is still alive here on FC!.... and hope I can bring the same positive energy to the new forum 9n herbaltherm.com

If you read Shitsnacks cut and past.... its a beta unit and access to an exclusive private IG, videos and being part of the product design process to optimize the beta and then recieve the final product with a gift package.... the balls is just a starting point and a helical path glass is the real design. The idea is that a couple of standard sized shell will make way to many cool designs for the internals.

Yes, $350 for 2 units at $150 and a change to do something real rather than just criticize on FC.... so my plan to keep the negative freeloaders away with charging for beta seems to work

Special thanks to the 4 folks who already grabbed a seat in the first 24 hours.... only 5 seats left so doesn't appear there will be a problem getting the rest sold .... at $350

 

[b0]

Good to see the upbeat and positive vibe is still alive here on FC!.... and hope I can bring the same positive energy to the new forum 9n herbaltherm.com

If you read Shitsnacks cut and past.... its a beta unit and access to an exclusive private IG, videos and being part of the product design process to optimize the beta and then recieve the final product with a gift package.... the balls is just a starting point and a helical path glass is the real design. The idea is that a couple of standard sized shell will make way to many cool designs for the internals.

Yes, $350 for 2 units at $150 and a change to do something real rather than just criticize on FC.... so my plan to keep the negative freeloaders away with charging for beta seems to work

Special thanks to the 4 folks who already grabbed a seat in the first 24 hours.... only 5 seats left so doesn't appear there will be a problem getting the rest sold .... at $350

The second post I see from you today, in one calling people in this forum trolls and using both to advertise your new forum while bashing this community. And you talk about negativity? Keep it classy, wondering where you would be without FC.

Some people should learn to accept criticism and check their EGO, hope this one goes better than the HerbalTherm 2XV (lol) especially when you're charging people and asking them to "work" for you. I guess if it ends being another one of your abandoned products you will refund them, right?

Personally, I lost all interest in supporting you, especially if you can't see why people are complaining here, and be grateful for the feedback and everything FC has done for you....... But still, a good place to come and do advertising right? No wonder so many people dislike you, I tried to stay neutral for a long time and you can see I have a couple of your products, but never again

 

[Vapouristo]

This beast gives you cool and consistent hits on every damn bowl. No matter what you throw at it, or in it, its always chill as a MF. Sometimes I throw mine in the fridge or freezer, depending on my mood, and it becomes a pocket sized, waterless ice-bong. All my other stems are collecting dust cause they do not do SHIT in terms of conditioning my hits. Especially after back to back bowls; this is where the 3TM shines cause of the heatsink, so no heat from the tip can conduct into the airpath and it stays the relatively the same temp for the whole sesh.

 

[RustyOldNail]

Yes, $350 for 2 units at $150 and a change to do something real rather than just criticize on FC.... so my plan to keep the negative freeloaders away with charging for beta seems to work

Success!

 

[4everpushingaboulder]

This beast gives you cool and consistent hits on every damn bowl. No matter what you throw at it, or in it, its always chill as a MF. Sometimes I throw mine in the fridge or freezer, depending on my mood, and it becomes a pocket sized, waterless ice-bong. All my other stems are collecting dust cause they do not do SHIT in terms of conditioning my hits. Especially after back to back bowls; this is where the 3TM shines cause of the heatsink, so no heat from the tip can conduct into the airpath and it stays the relatively the same temp for the whole sesh.

Hey so just a technical question since sometimes Ryan is hard to interpret in writing.

Do you now officially ‘own’ the 3TM product and herbaltherm or was that just Ryan being mystic.

Reason I ask, if you’re in this thread promoting the product then theoretically you should be listed as manufacturer?

Just trying to be clear. I think it’s cool you’ve kept up with the project and frankly I miss Ryan’s regular insta live streams.

 

[Vapouristo]

Hey so just a technical question since sometimes Ryan is hard to interpret in writing.

Do you now officially ‘own’ the 3TM product and herbaltherm or was that just Ryan being mystic.

Reason I ask, if you’re in this thread promoting the product then theoretically you should be listed as manufacturer?

Just trying to be clear. I think it’s cool you’ve kept up with the project and frankly I miss Ryan’s regular insta live streams.

I own nothing and produce nothing, hence the quotations on "owner" lol. I'm just letting everyone know that the 3TM exceeded all of my expectations for vapour quality, and I am the head brand ambassador, if that clears things up. Also, I anticipate that livestreams may resume shortly!!

 

[Grass Yes]

I own nothing and produce nothing, hence the quotations on "owner" lol. I'm just letting everyone know that the 3TM exceeded all of my expectations for vapour quality, and I am the head brand ambassador, if that clears things up. Also, I anticipate that livestreams may resume shortly!!

Clear as mud. Do you have a financial interest in herbaltherm?

 

[Vapouristo]

Clear as mud. Do you have a financial interest in herbaltherm?

I do not currently work for anyone. I am a university student and I offered to help Ryan fulfill his vision of delivering impeccably designed products to you guys in the community because the 3TM is objectively perfect from a cooling and durability standpoint, it would be a shame to keep it under wraps.

 

[Grass Yes]

I do not currently work for anyone. I am a university student and I offered to help Ryan fulfill his vision of delivering impeccably designed products to you guys in the community because the 3TM is objectively perfect from a cooling and durability standpoint, it would be a shame to keep it under wraps.

So you are doing it for free with no compensation of any kind, received currently or in the future?

 

[oddjobold]

I do not currently work for anyone. I am a university student and I offered to help Ryan fulfill his vision of delivering impeccably designed products to you guys in the community because the 3TM is objectively perfect from a cooling and durability standpoint, it would be a shame to keep it under wraps.

Another helper. They don't last long...

 

[4everpushingaboulder]

So you are doing it for free with no compensation of any kind, received currently or in the future?

Isnt the undying gratitude of the vaping community enough? I mean you all have been soooo kind and accepting!

 

[Grass Yes]

Isnt the undying gratitude of the vaping community enough? I mean you all have been soooo kind and accepting!

I do think our community has lots of very kind folks but I guess I just don't like being taken for a ride. I don't mind promotion. I just think everything should be above board.

 

[b0]

I own nothing and produce nothing, hence the quotations on "owner" lol. I'm just letting everyone know that the 3TM exceeded all of my expectations for vapour quality, and I am the head brand ambassador, if that clears things up. Also, I anticipate that livestreams may resume shortly!!

So IMHO "head brand ambassador" (your words, not mine) sounds like a charge in a company, a company that you're interested in succeeding and you're helping to do it. So yeah, you should deffo be listed as a manufacturer.

So you are doing it for free with no compensation of any kind, received currently or in the future?

Ryan paying someone? Come on, he is literally charging people money to beta test and "work" for him, so stingy!

Another helper. They don't last long...

Hahahah so on point! He knows he isn't appreciated here. Also as a helper, @Vapouristo should be listed as a manufacturer IMHO, he's helping Ryan and even has a "position".

 

[letter never sent]

“Brand Ambassador” just means it’s his job to hype the product up on social media channels, etc. He may or may not be getting paid, receiving product for free, etc. There is a guy doing something similar for the Anvil right now. Those types of relationships should definitely be disclosed somehow IMO.

 

[Grass Yes]

I am not trying to make any statement about Ryan or RBT. I have no interest in re-hashing whatever happened there.I think most of that was before I was paying attention. Further, I have several RBT devices that I absolutely love. I just want folks to be honest and open with us on this forum.

 

[4everpushingaboulder]

Hahahah so on point! He knows he isn't appreciated here. Also as a helper, @4everpushingaboulder should be listed as a manufacturer IMHO, he's helping Randy and even has a "position".

Who’s Randy! And what is my position?

 

[b0]

Who’s Randy! And what is my position?

I blame my bad memory for names, especially foreign ones to weed It's edited now, I meant Ryan. Thanks.
And sorry man, quoted the wrong person Can I blame weed for that too? I meant @Vapouristo

 

[4everpushingaboulder]

Sorry, I mixed up names. I blame weed for my bad memory to remember names , I meant Ryan. I edited, thanks.

And about your position/charge I already quoted yourself in my message saying it:

It's nothing personal, I'm sure you're super cool and I look forward to reading your reviews. At the end of the day I just dislike the way Ryan behaves, but I don't wish him bad or anything like that. It's just that as a head brand ambassador and human being, you could be biassed (even without realising it, I'm sure it has happened to all of us plenty of times) and people deserve to know it.

Still too much weed . That line you underlined is by @Vapouristo not me.


I’m innocent!