Herb Humidity

[andrew`124c41+]

Perhaps that is the answer. Store at 62% but dry out prior to vaping.

The mechanics are simply. Water boils at 212 F or 100 C. With moist herb you are both boiling off the water while at the same time having to extract the active organic compounds. Perhaps water makes this more difficult....you need a higher temp to do both at the same time. Just a thought

 

[RustyOldNail]

Perhaps that is the answer. Store at 62% but dry out prior to vaping.

That’s been the answer for years now....

From VapeCritic article:

“HOW TO PACK YOUR DRY HERB VAPORIZER THE RIGHT WAY”​

by Vape Critic
Updated December 25, 2020

HERE:

How to Pack Dry Herb Vaporizers (For Max Vapor) - The Vape Critic

vapecritic.com

PARTIAL TEXT PASTE:

“So if you take your ground up material right from your grinder and put it right in your vaporizer, it’ll work. But if you really want optimal results, take the grinds from your grinder and actually just lay them out on the piece of paper. Then pick a safe spot to put it where nobody’s going to disrupt it or anything, and just let it sit there for maybe 10 to 15 minutes. That’s really all the time you need, because since the material is already ground up and then you’re spreading it out over the paper, there’s a much larger surface area for it to dry faster, as opposed to just laying out clumps of herbs or something and just waiting for them to dry.

Sometimes you’ll have to do that if your material is really wet or moist, but usually this is all you’ll have to do. This dry, almost crispy material is what will work best inside your vaporizer. Now using this method I can get away with just using my four piece Space Case with just about every vape I have, meaning that the grind consistency for here is fine enough to work well with most vapes.”

 

[FlyingLow]

I only boveda stuff I intend to press, IMO all other vapes better (TOTALLY subjective) on the dryer end of the spectrum. Sure it is a little harsher, but it just hits harder dry.

 

[dallasxus]

That’s been the answer for years now....

From VapeCritic article:

“HOW TO PACK YOUR DRY HERB VAPORIZER THE RIGHT WAY”​

by Vape Critic
Updated December 25, 2020

HERE:

How to Pack Dry Herb Vaporizers (For Max Vapor) - The Vape Critic

vapecritic.com

PARTIAL TEXT PASTE:

“So if you take your ground up material right from your grinder and put it right in your vaporizer, it’ll work. But if you really want optimal results, take the grinds from your grinder and actually just lay them out on the piece of paper. Then pick a safe spot to put it where nobody’s going to disrupt it or anything, and just let it sit there for maybe 10 to 15 minutes. That’s really all the time you need, because since the material is already ground up and then you’re spreading it out over the paper, there’s a much larger surface area for it to dry faster, as opposed to just laying out clumps of herbs or something and just waiting for them to dry.

Sometimes you’ll have to do that if your material is really wet or moist, but usually this is all you’ll have to do. This dry, almost crispy material is what will work best inside your vaporizer. Now using this method I can get away with just using my four piece Space Case with just about every vape I have, meaning that the grind consistency for here is fine enough to work well with most vapes.”

He has a ton of great info on his site

 

[Mya Moe guy]

Wow, this is very interesting. I never heard of hydrostone. What you described is exactly what I have been finding with both the Jyarz and the Cvalts with the Bovidae packs in them. Are the boost packs rechargeable? Since the Terps are of a lower molecular weight, you may indeed be right as i said in another post.

Can you get a hydrostone into a Jyarz Classic with a Boost pack?

I just purchased a 3 pack of the Raw hydra stone last week and was impressed how rehydrated my buds had become After 24 hours.

 

[condition]

Didn't realise this was common. Thought it considered blasphemous tbh. However I do something similar.

I try to cure my bud as close to 60%. I only ever use boveda if my dry has resulted in 50 to 55% humidity when in the jars. A boveda can help bring buds back at the start of the cure as long as they are not too dry.
Otherwise I don't use them. If you have managed the dry and cure well I can't see what they do. If the bud is too dry (say below 50%) nothing will restore it IME.

However, after a long cure I like to bring the bud down to low 50's for vaping. In humid months this is difficult but careful use of jars and a heat source and a humidity meter I can usually do it.
I find the flavour is much more punchy and obvious from the first pull.
Too dry buds that crumble easily are harsh for me. Generally they went into the jars too dry and failed to cure sufficiently.

How do you measure the humidity?

 

[RustyOldNail]

How do you measure the humidity?

The most accurate small humidity gauge I could find:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00JXOKT1O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$25, not cheap, but neither is my stash.....

Since I have more then one container, I bought a 6-pack of the cheap Chinese gauges, but I don’t recommend them unless you want to spend days testing them sealed in container with SALT, to determine how off the readout is, most are really INACCURATE! Only good thing about them is there are slightly smaller then the accurate one I linked to.

Google the salt test for humidity gauges to learn how to test for accuracy.

 

[GoldenBud]

i like dry buds and i can't lie (4%-8% of h2o)

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Without details... I dunno if any of us could notice if a bud has 11% of h2o or 4%? or maybe yes?

 

[Chicken No Name]

How do you measure the humidity?

I use these.

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B07JG9QZ2B/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWw

Cheap as chips and fairly accurate. Certainly as accurate as I need them to be. If I put all of them in a jar with a couple of boveda 62% after an hour they all read 62% (occasionally one will be a little above or below but I write the deviation on them).
Never had a mouldy bud once jarred and I don't use boveda for storage, ever.

This contradicts other folks experience by the looks of it but Ive bought several multi packs of these and find them very good.

 

[condition]

I use these.

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/aw/d/B07JG9QZ2B/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWw

Cheap as chips and fairly accurate. Certainly as accurate as I need them to be. If I put all of them in a jar with a couple of boveda 62% after an hour they all read 62% (occasionally one will be a little above or below but I write the deviation on them).
Never had a mouldy bud once jarred and I don't use boveda for storage, ever.

This contradicts other folks experience by the looks of it but Ive bought several multi packs of these and find them very good.

thanks, can I use one that I own already, its bigger and cheaper but also from amazon

if so, I just put it in the same container as the herbs and take measure from there?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XZYP5FW/

 

[andrew`124c41+]

When I first started this thread I never would have dreamed where it would go. I was just reading through the latest posts and started to laugh. For some crazy reason I suddenly remembered the mess my friend and I had gotten ourselves into by going to Woodstock the summer of 69. We didn't have grinders...heck I don't even remember what we used to deal with the seeds and twigs in our FDA unapproved stuff.

But anyway, it rained...it really rained... and all our sh$t got wet. Just try rolling one in Bambu papers when it is actually visibly wet. Forget about it.

Somehow we managed to get some aluminum foil and bake the stuff a bit over a fire driving off some of the moisture. In the end we got it to work...sort of by using a pipe. Thinking back about it, we may have actually been the first (well I expect there were others lol) to inadvertently vape weed. The bottom line is that we got where we wanted to go.

I picked up a 4 piece grinder several months ago because at the time that is all the store had. I have still not gotten anything in the final piece lol. So, I don't get all the fuss. I don't see the point of spending a hundred bucks on a "diamond cut grinder." It never ceases to amaze me how companies can make a fetish out of just about anything....from accessories for firearms, cameras, drones, magic paraphernalia, cigar affecianados, to weed connoisseurs. (I was in one of our local headshops and could not believe that they sold small weed transfer/shovels, whatever you want to call them for between 50 and 100 bucks! I got a lab spatula spoon that I fixed up on Amazon for maybe 6 dollars.

I digress...sorry.

I think in the end it just takes longer to fully extract from herb that is more on the shall we say wet side.

The TM seems to work more quickly and efficiently for me then the XMax Pro V2....but in the end they both work and get the job done. Since starting this thread I have been trying different amounts of hydration and from a subjective standpoint the only difference is time to extract. Eventually, even really moist herb they I put right on a bunch of hydrostones after keeping them in a bag became fully consumed.

The main difference I see is that eventually as the moist herb dries out as you continue to pull, it becomes more harsh.

In the end, I think it's personal preference.

 

[Chicken No Name]

thanks, can I use one that I own already, its bigger and cheaper but also from amazon

if so, I just put it in the same container as the herbs and take measure from there?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XZYP5FW/

If you can fit it in the jar, why not.

 

[RustyOldNail]

thanks, can I use one that I own already, its bigger and cheaper but also from amazon

if so, I just put it in the same container as the herbs and take measure from there?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XZYP5FW/

There was some debate on having any battery + electronic meters and potential off gassing etc. I made a conscious decision not to worry with my little ones, but the one you linked to is freakin HUGE, I have several of that type in my home. I hate the space my little ones take up in all my varieties of containers. Have fun!

 

[condition]

There was some debate on having any battery + electronic meters and potential off gassing etc. I made a conscious decision not to worry with my little ones, but the one you linked to is freakin HUGE, I have several of that type in my home. I hate the space my little ones take up in all my varieties of containers. Have fun!

Thanks I will order a small one.

 

[RustyOldNail]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R586J37?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_tab_ap_product_details

Received the Bluetooth wireless humidity sensor linked above yesterday. $15, very small, no screen, all the data shows on a free phone app. Included battery lasts one year, temperature and HUMIDITY can be manually adjusted if needed and you know how to test for accuracy. You can set notification alerts for HIGH/LOW temperatures and humidity. This means you don’t have to keep opening your containers to check a humidity gauge, and will know when that container is getting low in humidity, no matter if you use Boveda packs as I do or not.

This means you can monitor your stored stash WITHOUT opening your airtight container, as long as you are in Bluetooth range. There is another model, that can connect via WiFi, but that sensor is too large for my cramped containers, and I don’t need to monitor my stash from anywhere in the world.

Years ago, Boveda came out with one of the first wireless humidity monitors called “Butler”, just noticed they discontinued selling it, too expensive, and the Chinese now sell these cheaply, so they bailed out of this market.

So, testing this for the past 24 hours, and it’s impressibly ACCURATE out of the box. For $15, I’m going to buy a bunch more, and ditch the real cheap Chinese pucks with their inaccuracies and garbage batteries. I’ll keep the more expensive ones with display screen that I bought awhile ago.

 

[SpudBob]

Been using Boveda 62's for years and they work fine for me. Ive got some 4 y.o. Blueberry Kush that is STILL stoney and tastes, almost ,as good as after initial cure. I do believe the Bovedas DO affect flavor a bit but its worth it to me to keep it from drying out too much. Just my 2c!

 

[condition]

However, after a long cure I like to bring the bud down to low 50's for vaping. In humid months this is difficult but careful use of jars and a heat source and a humidity meter I can usually do it.
I find the flavour is much more punchy and obvious from the first pull.

So what is the fastest and safest way to lower the humidity of the buds? Safe I mean if for example I put a very fresh bud in a closed glass vase and in direct sunlight then after a while i notice sweat in the vase, humidity stick to the walls.

 

[RustyOldNail]

Been using Boveda 62's for years and they work fine for me. Ive got some 4 y.o. Blueberry Kush that is STILL stoney and tastes, almost ,as good as after initial cure. I do believe the Bovedas DO affect flavor a bit but its worth it to me to keep it from drying out too much. Just my 2c!

I use Boveda 62’s as well. If they are good enough for cigar Aficionados and their expensive cigars.....

I recently bought a 3-pack of plastic open baskets that sit in the top of a wide mouth mason jar, to suspend a humidity pack above the flower in the jar. They came with 10- BOOST 62% packs, each individually wrapped. Never used them before. But after a 24 hour test, they never went above 55% humidity. As pointed out in one of Troys videos, the real PROBLEM is, the Boost packs are a GEL, that never dries out, unlike the Boveda packs that get hard when they dry out. So unless you monitor the humidity level, you never know when a Boost pack is dried out and no longer working. Like Troy, I’ll stick with Boveda packs, as you know when to replace or recharge them.

 

[Chicken No Name]

So what is the fastest and safest way to lower the humidity of the buds? Safe I mean if for example I put a very fresh bud in a closed glass vase and in direct sunlight then after a while i notice sweat in the vase, humidity stick to the walls.

Are you asking about a quick dry method? If so I can't help. Slow and steady dry with a long cure for me. I like at least 3 months in the jar.

 

[GoldenBud]

So what is the fastest and safest way to lower the humidity of the buds? Safe I mean if for example I put a very fresh bud in a closed glass vase and in direct sunlight then after a while i notice sweat in the vase, humidity stick to the walls.

why would you put a fresh bud in a jar? fresh weed after trim has something like 80% of water.. even more
dry it in an open space for a week or so

 

[TeaCup]

I use Boveda 62’s as well. If they are good enough for cigar Aficionados and their expensive cigars.....

I recently bought a 3-pack of plastic open baskets that sit in the top of a wide mouth mason jar, to suspend a humidity pack above the flower in the jar. They came with 10- BOOST 62% packs, each individually wrapped. Never used them before. But after a 24 hour test, they never went above 55% humidity. As pointed out in one of Troys videos, the real PROBLEM is, the Boost packs are a GEL, that never dries out, unlike the Boveda packs that get hard when they dry out. So unless you monitor the humidity level, you never know when a Boost pack is dried out and no longer working. Like Troy, I’ll stick with Boveda packs, as you know when to replace or recharge them.

The Boost packs come with a little square cutout that's supposed to turn a different color when done. Don't know how accurate they are.

 

[RustyOldNail]

The Boost packs come with a little square cutout that's supposed to turn a different color when done. Don't know how accurate they are.

According to Troy, they aren’t...
The one I tested marked 62%, doesn’t hydrate beyond 55%, and there is a CARD that was not included that you have to have with each pack:

FAQ

www.integra-products.com

 

[SpudBob]

Are you asking about a quick dry method? If so I can't help. Slow and steady dry with a long cure for me. I like at least 3 months in the jar.

Amen! SLOW IS THE KEY!!! You want it to dry as slow as you can. IT depends on your relative humidity AND the strain you are drying.Where I am, very dry, 4-5 days is usually enough. Then into jars in the dark. You will need to air out your jars every day. I usually go three times a day for the first few days. Open em up and let em breath a bit.Then two a days ,then one etc... I use small reptile hygrometers to get the humidity down slowly into the high 60's. From there your golden. Seal it up, put a Bovie 62, and wait till its right for you!!! Ive had strains that took 9 months to get it where I wanted it. I usually do a 6 week initial cure then test it for flavor/effect. I then seal it back up and check on it periodically till its done to my satisfaction. That's how I roll! Your mileage may vary.

 

[condition]

why would you put a fresh bud in a jar? fresh weed after trim has something like 80% of water.. even more
dry it in an open space for a week or so

thanks but indoor or outdoor and if outdoor under the sun sometimes for faster results?

Are you asking about a quick dry method? If so I can't help. Slow and steady dry with a long cure for me. I like at least 3 months in the jar.

Yes a quick drying of some buds to start vaping

 

[GoldenBud]

thanks but indoor or outdoor and if outdoor under the sun sometimes for faster results?

direct sun is bad for the trichomes, the key with drying is low humid area... keep it in a dark room which has 40-60 % of RH... if the room is like 65% or even 70% it will take 10-14 days to be fully dried, people who has humid-absorber and can keep their room at 35-40 % of RH , the buds can be dried in even 4-5 days...