Herb Grinders

[Quetzalcoatl]

what's the bottom chamber look like with no herb in? smooth with no walls anywhere?

 

[snackmaster]

what's the bottom chamber look like with no herb in? smooth with no walls anywhere?

It's concave like the SCS but more rounded (ie less vertical wall)

 

[Aimless Ryan]

Is this a new product, or is this a product that has been around but didn't grab anyone's attention until now?

 

[whatitdew]

The gr8ter is brand new I made a post about it a little while back. Kannastor has relaunched their brand.
@snackmaster no pollen collection on that model? I believe there are two versions? My LHS just got these in, going to take a closer look.

Also was wondering if somebody who owns a small 3 piece and small 4 piece could take a pic side by side. I am just wondering what the size difference is. I just sold one of my limited edition scs and am thinking of buying a 3 piece for a portable grinder.

 

[Mulehead]

Excellent review @snackmaster!

It sure doesn't grind like my cheap LHS grinder, which is my only comparison.
It doesn't seem to grind as much as grate really.
Technique seems to be a little different, no upside down like the snackmaster mentioned, not needed.
It does require more downward pressure, besides the initial push thru buds in traditional grinders, to complete the grating process.
It also seems to take a few more turns to process the material.
Although the turning is easier than traditional grinders.
It is so consistent on the grind! I can't stress this enough.

I have the solid body gr8tr, it has the removable screen for sifting.
The bottom is not as deep as the puck or vape gr8tr bottoms, it's also not as concaved, more like a traditional kief catcher bottom.
Also comes with the coarser plate, which I haven't tried yet.
I also bought the storage puck separate, and with the modular design I can turn it into vape gr8tr.
Simply remove screen "section" with "kief" bottom, and replace them with the storage puck bottom, to make 3 piece or vape gr8tr.
I like the extra storage in the top for nugs.
I like the size and shape of storage puck for on the go.
Plus it came with a guitar pick which you gotta love!

So far, I really dig this grinder, and my MiniVap is loving the grind!

 

[snackmaster]

@snackmaster no pollen collection on that model? I believe there are two versions? My LHS just got these in, going to take a closer look.

Nope, not on the vape model.

It also seems to take a few more turns to process the material.
Although the turning is easier than traditional grinders.
It is so consistent on the grind! I can't stress this enough.

Totally agree.

I also bought the storage puck separate, and with the modular design I can turn it into vape gr8tr.
Simply remove screen "section" with "kief" bottom, and replace them with the storage puck bottom, to make 3 piece or vape gr8tr.

This is a really good idea.

 

[Socks And Sandals]

So sorry for replying so late.. I don't always find the time to stop by here everyday.

Yeah. That's why I started loading the lid, then grinding upside down, before flipping and turning the lid some more to assist the herbs through the holes. The way I see it, you're more likely to get the sides gunked up if you grind sideways or load the bottom teeth of an SCS.

(I haven't done it this way recently.)

If you don't already have Grinder Grease, buy some from puffitup.

If you don't have Grinder Grease, use a cotton swab or a cotton ball to apply alcohol to the male edge of the lid. That should make it feel quite a bit better instantly, without requiring the labor of a full cleaning session.

Thanks for the info, I'll be taking a look at puffitup soon! And by male edge you do mean the top of the grinder on the rim that fits inside of the bottom toothed piece right?

Socks: The top of the grinder is definitely always going to get somewhat dirty when using it upside down and you may as well (imo) keep brushing that out after a grind. I think I would eliminate the step where you brush the grinder before you start, however. That seems a bit redundant since it seems like you clean it up pretty good after you use it.

As for cleaning, Iso and maybe a little salt if it's gunky (doesn't sound like that would happen to you, though) with a toothbrush work very well for me (so well that I need to remember just how easy it was so I can just keep the thing clean). I don't think this should have any negative effect on the colored finish.

I think I made a mistake in my original post. There is no need to brush it out before a grind because it's already been cleaned after the previous grind. I've used to use a toothbrush and Iso for my S & B plastic grinder nearly every week. I'm hoping I won't have to use Iso more than 2 or 3 times a year I would guess for my SCS? Anyhow thank you for the info. I feel much safer now using the Iso when the time comes!

@Socks And Sandals post a pic matte green is sick. I wanted green or blue but all was in stock was purple for the lrg. Yes grinding upsidedown will get dirtier a lot faster.

Here you go! This is 1 month of daily usage right here. Kief is looking good as well!

Below here is my SCS method for usage. Notice how I take the disadvantage you mentioned earlier and turn it into a feature.

excerpt from http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/herb-grinders.15/page-237#post-848167

Haha! I see what did there! I think I should try a mix of upside down and rightside up as well! I'll find out what works best for me. General rule of thumb still stands.. the finer the better right?

 

[FlyingLow]

Socks- that green scs pollen looks like a lot of additional debris is passing through besides pollen. Amy chance you have better pics? Is this a newer unit without a fine screen?

 

[whatitdew]

Hell yeah matte green is so nice, wish that was in stock when I last ordered!

I don't like the pollen screens at all in the later gen shredders, way too coarse.

I'm tempted to buy another of these small black medical use only shredders since they seem to some of the last stock of old design with the fine screens. Or they have a rasta small that is most likely old stock too.

 

[CuckFumbustion]

Now, If I want to go ultra fine, I do all that and set my SCS right side up again. Take of the top grinder lid off and tamp it on say a coffee filter. Put the top back on upside down, do a couple more turns, then lift the lid and tamp a second time. Only the lightest of particles will stick to the top of the lid when it is being taken off. So I tamp that out every end step. Nice little trick I taught myself.

Thought I might elaborate more. @Socks And Sandals, Do you get the gist of my method by what I am tamping out? The finest of the grind. Only the finest of particles will stay inside the lid when I take it off. The heavier will remain or fall back into in the SCS. Let gravity do the sifting when I take off the lid. So I tamp the lid on say a coffee filter. What falls into the filter gets used. The rest keeps getting reground through the whole process. What's also nice about coffee filters is the drying process. You can fold it in such a way that air goes through, around and underneath the filter if you like. Fine particles with the maximum surface area of drying. Plus the filter being paper itself might also contribute. When ready to use, fold the filter in half and pour into your vape. Best of all possible methods with what I have. But I wouldn't mind having a finishing grinder.

"Coffee filters are multi-purpose for nearly everything, but one thing. Making coffee. I use a French Press for that." That is my personal quote.

 

[dubbydoo]

I think I get what you're saying, and I think it's what I already thought. Basically it's the same thing as making a bad pizza. If your design for a pizza is bad (recipe, bake time/temp, etc.), or if you just don't try very hard, the pizza will be bad. Similarly, if your design for a grinder is bad, or if you just don't try very hard, the grinder will be bad.

(That pizza in my profile pic was a good pizza.)

Hmm tasty.. looks like an extra cheeze with a deep base..

 

[°k]

That new Kannastor grinder looks very interesting with its modularity; stop me if I'm wrong but with SCS they're the only one to offer a 3 piece except that this time the lid goes around the grinding chamber and not inside it (better in my opinion).

@KannastorRepWhoIsn'tPartOfFC: you guys need to make a small one in different colors and sell it in Europe now please.
I quite like the quick lock system of the Cali crusher homegrown, you should copy that too!

 

[Aimless Ryan]

And by male edge you do mean the top of the grinder on the rim that fits inside of the bottom toothed piece right?

Yeah, that sounds right.

Hmm tasty.. looks like an extra cheeze with a deep base..

This one was very similar to New York style; maybe even in the direction of New York elite (coal-fired), since I baked it in a grill insert at probably around 600° or 650°. (I generally do regular New York style at about 550°-580°.)

No, not deep. Just a little puffy around the edges. Probably a little thinner than a true New York style pizza.

 

[Dank Sinatra]

I ordered a Kannastor vape gr8tr a little while ago (15% off labor day sale brought it to $60+shipping), and I finally got to try it last night. So far, I'm really impressed!

Packaging: Pretty slick.

Assembled: Probably about the same size as a 4-pc SCS

Grind: I really like the grind - finer than the SCS/SC, but not as fine as the MFLB finishing grinder. Super consistent, though. It also doesn't require any grinding upside down and then flipping. Just drop it in, close the lid, and turn. Too early to say, but I suspect being able to keep this grinder upright at all times may help keep it from getting gunked up.

Gr8tr, SCS, and SC: Teeth are much shorter and holes are much smaller on the Kannastor. The Kannastor's grinding chamber is the deepest, which I think makes loading a little easier - no worries about bits falling out or anything like that. The grooves on the male part of the gr8tr are supposed to reduce friction and collect gunk - again, too early to comment on whether that's effective, but it seems plausible. The 3-pc SCS bottom is deeper, but the gr8tr's capacity is more than sufficient for me.

Other stuff:
-The Kannastor has extra storage in the top - dunno that I'd ever use this, but it does utilize otherwise wasted space. However, I do like that the black lid can be used with the bottom part of the grinder to create a storage puck.
-These grinders have interchangeable grinder plates, but this model only comes with only the fine one. Not sure I'd bother buying the coarser plate, as this one suits my needs just fine.

@Mulehead I'm really interested to hear what you think about the gr8tr once you get yours!

Would you say that the Gr8tr is worth the extra price over a SCS 3 piece? Your review might have just sold me on it

 

[grokit]

SCS they're the only one to offer a 3 piece except that this time the lid goes around the grinding chamber and not inside it (better in my opinion).

This is actually my only substantive complaint about my scs grinders, that I have to load the lid instead of the chamber because of this configuration in order to avoid the need for frequent cleaning of said rims.

 

[Socks And Sandals]

Socks- that green scs pollen looks like a lot of additional debris is passing through besides pollen. Amy chance you have better pics? Is this a newer unit without a fine screen?

Well i picked this up about a month ago. I'm not sure if the screen is more coarse than previous versions. I thought I read the SCS have the finest kief screen out of every other premium grinder out there? If anything passed through I assure you it's all Marijuana. After closer inspection the kief seems pretty consistent to me. Maybe it was just a bad pic. Let me know if you still see it because I don't. Keep in mind this my first 4 piece and the first time I'm collecting pollen so you're much more of an expert on this than I am! Let me know if it still looks suspect to you after these pics. Thanks man!

Hell yeah matte green is so nice, wish that was in stock when I last ordered!

I don't like the pollen screens at all in the later gen shredders, way too coarse.

I'm tempted to buy another of these small black medical use only shredders since they seem to some of the last stock of old design with the fine screens. Or they have a rasta small that is most likely old stock too.

Glad you like the pics. Green has always been favorite color being part irish and being born on St. Patrick's Day and all with Blue being my 2nd. Do you really think the screen is more coarse than previous versions? If this is true, do you think they did this because of complaints of the pollen screen getting clogged up? As I mentioned to FlyingLow above, I read on the SCS site and various forums that the pollen screen is the finest out there out of any other premium grinder. I gotta admit I may have had this grinder for a month but I honestly only uses it about 20 times.. I'm very surprised at the amount of Kief I got so far myself so maybe it is true?

Thought I might elaborate more. @Socks And Sandals, Do you get the gist of my method by what I am tamping out? The finest of the grind. Only the finest of particles will stay inside the lid when I take it off. The heavier will remain or fall back into in the SCS. Let gravity do the sifting when I take off the lid. So I tamp the lid on say a coffee filter. What falls into the filter gets used. The rest keeps getting reground through the whole process. What's also nice about coffee filters is the drying process. You can fold it in such a way that air goes through, around and underneath the filter if you like. Fine particles with the maximum surface area of drying. Plus the filter being paper itself might also contribute. When ready to use, fold the filter in half and pour into your vape. Best of all possible methods with what I have. But I wouldn't mind having a finishing grinder.

"Coffee filters are multi-purpose for nearly everything, but one thing. Making coffee. I use a French Press for that." That is my personal quote.

Yeah I got the gist of it but I guess the part about only using the finest powder from the lid went over my head. I actually missed that part probably due to being overly medicated at the time of posting! I'm going to try this as soon as my Plenty comes back from repair.. Unfortunately until next week.. I have no choice but to combust.. I don't think my easy vape that I'm trying to get rid of is worth the effort.

I would love to see some pics of this super fine grind you're getting from the top lid!

 

[snackmaster]

Would you say that the Gr8tr is worth the extra price over a SCS 3 piece? Your review might have just sold me on it

It might be. I'm really happy with it for the price I paid, and probably still would be if I paid full price. It's a cool design.

Excellent review @snackmaster!

It sure doesn't grind like my cheap LHS grinder, which is my only comparison.
It doesn't seem to grind as much as grate really.
Technique seems to be a little different, no upside down like the snackmaster mentioned, not needed.
It does require more downward pressure, besides the initial push thru buds in traditional grinders, to complete the grating process.
It also seems to take a few more turns to process the material.
Although the turning is easier than traditional grinders.
It is so consistent on the grind! I can't stress this enough.

I have the solid body gr8tr, it has the removable screen for sifting.
The bottom is not as deep as the puck or vape gr8tr bottoms, it's also not as concaved, more like a traditional kief catcher bottom.
Also comes with the coarser plate, which I haven't tried yet.
I also bought the storage puck separate, and with the modular design I can turn it into vape gr8tr.
Simply remove screen "section" with "kief" bottom, and replace them with the storage puck bottom, to make 3 piece or vape gr8tr.
I like the extra storage in the top for nugs.
I like the size and shape of storage puck for on the go.
Plus it came with a guitar pick which you gotta love!

So far, I really dig this grinder, and my MiniVap is loving the grind!

Couple questions for ya... 1) What's the diameter of the solid body, and 2) with your setup of solid body + storage puck can you make the vape gr8tr and then a "puck" with a screen?

 

[Snappo]

Well i picked this up about a month ago. I'm not sure if the screen is more coarse than previous versions. I thought I read the SCS have the finest kief screen out of every other premium grinder out there? If anything passed through I assure you it's all Marijuana. After closer inspection the kief seems pretty consistent to me. Maybe it was just a bad pic. Let me know if you still see it because I don't. Keep in mind this my first 4 piece and the first time I'm collecting pollen so you're much more of an expert on this than I am! Let me know if it still looks suspect to you after these pics. Thanks man!

Glad you like the pics. Green has always been favorite color being part irish and being born on St. Patrick's Day and all with Blue being my 2nd. Do you really think the screen is more coarse than previous versions? If this is true, do you think they did this because of complaints of the pollen screen getting clogged up? As I mentioned to FlyingLow above, I read on the SCS site and various forums that the pollen screen is the finest out there out of any other premium grinder. I gotta admit I may have had this grinder for a month but I honestly only uses it about 20 times.. I'm very surprised at the amount of Kief I got so far myself so maybe it is true?



Yeah I got the gist of it but I guess the part about only using the finest powder from the lid went over my head. I actually missed that part probably due to being overly medicated at the time of posting! I'm going to try this as soon as my Plenty comes back from repair.. Unfortunately until next week.. I have no choice but to combust.. I don't think my easy vape that I'm trying to get rid of is worth the effort.

I would love to see some pics of this super fine grind you're getting from the top lid!

Loving the consistent easy grind and kief from my 4-piece Compton ...just sayin :-)

 

[whatitdew]

In the beginning SCS had really fine screens and they got a lot of complaints so they changed the screen. I have both versions. My favourite pollen screens are old SCS and space case.

 

[srama21]

I'm deciding between the Kannistor and the Compton right now. Still leaning towards compton because of the changeable screens

Edit- Kannistor also has changeable screens

 

[Mulehead]

The gr8tr comes with a 60 mesh easy change screen.
40, 80, and 100 mesh are available on their website for $6 ea.

Edit: just to add to your confusion!

 

[srama21]

40 is finer or is it the other way around?

 

[Mulehead]

I think 100 is the finest, looking at the Kannastor website.
Hard to tell after just two days but I think the 60 is about right for me.

They really nailed the grind consistency with this grinder.
I'm blown away every time I open it up and see a perfectly consistent fine grind, exactly like the last time.
I can see a more consistent abv as well, it all looks exactly the same color, size, and shape.
I'm also noticing more vapor on the first hit on my convection vapes due to the finer grind.

If only it came in that sexy ass SCS matte green!
Would look good with the black top!

 

[FlyingLow]

@ Socks, I wasn't doubting it was mj, just that it appeared more than the fine pollen was making it through. Mine comes out a good deal finer like powdered sugar. I just did a collection and cleaning last week but will post a pick up a pic once I get a bit more in the chamber.


I keep considering the Compton, but also think I'd buy more grinders and keep coming back to my SCS anyway.

 

[dubbydoo]

Yeah, that sounds right.



This one was very similar to New York style; maybe even in the direction of New York elite (coal-fired), since I baked it in a grill insert at probably around 600° or 650°. (I generally do regular New York style at about 550°-580°.)

No, not deep. Just a little puffy around the edges. Probably a little thinner than a true New York style pizza.

Sounds tasty.. I had a happy pizza in Cambodia 10 years ago.. it was covered in weed... it was so strong I could't see when I woke up the next day .. my mate had to load me in a taxi and send me to bangkok to recover for a few days.. ha good times.. Ps was the recipe for the base.. I'll try to make it here in Ireland .. me and the kids love to make home made pizza ..