Multi-brand HEALTHY RIPS FURY

[Vaporific]

@VAPEHUNTER Cool case & good idea. Of course, a small power bank with a micro cord would also work absent the need for a case.

Hey, so I've been on the Fierce thread recently, which just launched (a PSA for those who didn't know) and this is my first time on this thread. Someone on the Fierce one just discovered that they could use the bubbler and perhaps some glass with the dosing capsules. Is that possible at all with the Fury2? I heard in the other thread that the Fierce glass is thinner than Fury glass which could make it possible with the Fierce and not the Fury. And perhaps the capsules are proportionally different too which could be a reason why it doesn't work with the Fury. I'm however holding out hope it's the same across both products and thought to check in here with Fury/2 owners.

 

[Jill NYC]

Someone on the Fierce one just discovered that they could use the bubbler and perhaps some glass with the dosing capsules. Is that possible at all with the Fury2? I heard in the other thread that the Fierce glass is thinner than Fury glass which could make it possible with the Fierce and not the Fury. And perhaps the capsules are proportionally different too which could be a reason why it doesn't work with the Fury. I'm however holding out hope it's the same across both products and thought to check in here with Fury/2 owners.

Unfortunately, this is not possible with the F2. The Fierce has a mouthpiece holder that will stay in place even if ithe glass isn’t completely inserted in the oven.
The Fury glass pieces need to be inserted into the oven in order to stay in place. I guess theoretically you could hold it in place yourself, but I think it would end up being very inefficient and impractical.

 

[OF]

Earlier today I picked up a travel case for my Fury2. The case is made to charge blue tooth headphones so it has a built in battery. After my Fury2 cools down I just plug it in and it charges while in its case.
LINK https://www.amazon.com/Smatree-Charging-Wireless-Bluetooth-Headphones/dp/B072ZL43TG
Just wanted to throw it out there.

Neat case, and neat idea but I wouldn't hold my breath on it's being all that practical charging F2.

F2 has a 1600mAh battery that charges at 5 Volts, meaning it needs 8Wh to do so (1.6 Ah times 5 Volts). This guy stores a bit over half that, 5.6 Wh (which you can see on the label in the first photo on Amazon). There's also an efficiency factor converting that nominal 3.7 Volts stored (which changes with charge level) into 5 Volts that's stable over the cycle. This is probably about 80% so we can only count on about 4.4 Wh being available, about half a charge.......best case. Enough for another session, two if you're 'lucky'?

4.4 Wh is 'a great plenty' for the very modest needs of tiny headphones, but when it comes to making vapor in F2......

OF

 

[hinglemccringleberry]

Mine stains up in the bowl too, just like my Arizer stems used only with flower as well, a slight abrasive will get it off, I use a strip of scouring pad to get it off.

I don't understand how my bowl stays clean, how long does it take for you to get the staining? I've caked the inside of my stem with goo to the point of the glass being brown just downstream of the bowl but I couldn't stain the bowl itself if I tried. It's either a difference in our bud or a difference in the glass?

 

[OF]

I don't understand how my bowl stays clean, how long does it take for you to get the staining? I've caked the inside of my stem with goo to the point of the glass being brown just downstream of the bowl but I couldn't stain the bowl itself if I tried. It's either a difference in our bud or a difference in the glass?

It depends on strain and cure. A lot on cure. Moisture condenses first making making that 'oil and water don't mix' mess. Once we sorted this out with MFLB (which can't be cleaned) fouling basically stopped.

You have to waste time and heat drying it out before you can heat it enough to make vapor anyway. No extra points for 'dank herb' like in blazing.

OF

 

[Vaporific]

Unfortunately, this is not possible with the F2. The Fierce has a mouthpiece holder that will stay in place even if ithe glass isn’t completely inserted in the oven.
The Fury glass pieces need to be inserted into the oven in order to stay in place. I guess theoretically you could hold it in place yourself, but I think it would end up being very inefficient and impractical.

Perhaps burning oneself too I suppose if not careful. Ouch, in more ways than one Thanks!

 

[VAPEHUNTER]

Neat case, and neat idea but I wouldn't hold my breath on it's being all that practical charging F2.

F2 has a 1600mAh battery that charges at 5 Volts, meaning it needs 8Wh to do so (1.6 Ah times 5 Volts). This guy stores a bit over half that, 5.6 Wh (which you can see on the label in the first photo on Amazon). There's also an efficiency factor converting that nominal 3.7 Volts stored (which changes with charge level) into 5 Volts that's stable over the cycle. This is probably about 80% so we can only count on about 4.4 Wh being available, about half a charge.......best case. Enough for another session, two if you're 'lucky'?

4.4 Wh is 'a great plenty' for the very modest needs of tiny headphones, but when it comes to making vapor in F2......

OF

I’ll give it a test this weekend to see how far it will charge a next to dead F2. It charged it from about half dead yesterday and only used a little under half of the battery. However I seriously doubt the little lights on the side of the case are very accurate.

This looks very interesting, could you please post a pic of the fury inside the case?

Ok I’m home. But I only have IMGUR so I’ll have to join another picture sharing site. What’s a good replacement? Tinypic?

 

[Hackerman]

I could say this about any battery but just to keep it on topic, I'll say it about the Fury2.

If the battery actually will last 2x longer by only charging it to 80% full, why don't they simply design the charging circuit to stop charging at 80%? Then, EVERYONE'S battery would last twice as long.

Same thing on the down side. The circuit should stop operating the unit when the battery is 20% full and demand a recharge.

If it is so sure and everyone knows it to be true, it seems insane that the circuit is not designed to do this automatically. Is it the few minutes of extra time you get out of it by completely draining or charging it? Doesn't seem worth a 2x or 3x faster dying battery. Especially in something like the Fury where the battery is not user replaceable.

And, at the risk of going off topic, any standard battery charger should also do the same (on the upside at least). Stop charging at 80%.

Doesn't make sense but I ASSume there is a reason.

 

[OF]

If the battery actually will last 2x longer by only charging it to 80% full, why don't they simply design the charging circuit to stop charging at 80%? Then, EVERYONE'S battery would last twice as long.

Same thing on the down side. The circuit should stop operating the unit when the battery is 20% full and demand a recharge.

Of course there's a reason, or everyone wouldn't do it? Not just vape makers, but flashlights, laptops, cell phones and so on. Everyone. Because numbers sell?

I think logically they figure most users will never recharge 300 times, and if they do use it that much by then they're OK with the replacement (half price of new in the case of F2?) It will be years down the road after all. And Suits (sales types) might be a lot of things, but they're not dumb. The know folks will pass their unit by in favor of the competitors that runs almost twice as long per charge.

Like I said elsewhere, the major charge controller IC maker don't even offer that option.....they know how many customers they'd have for that. Numbers sell.

OF

 

[Hackerman]

Thanks bud.

More 21st century logic. LOL

 

[OF]

Thanks bud.

More 21st century logic. LOL

Yer welcome, but truth be told it's really 20th century experience. Back in the days we made stuff in this country, I did. And hung with the Suits and the OM (Old Man, owner, almost always a sales type) from time to time. They really call the shots, not Engineering or Manufacturing.

OF

 

[Jill NYC]

@OF How about an adapter of some sort that you add to a USB cable that would automatically stop charging at 80%? Do you think there is the technological capability for an enterprising engineer to develop something like that? Or is there anything you know of like that already? I would think that would bring in big numbers. (Not suggesting from HR, it would be able to work with any/most USB products).

 

[OF]

@OF How about an adapter of some sort that you add to a USB cable that would automatically stop charging at 80%? Do you think there is the technological capability for an enterprising engineer to develop something like that? Or is there anything you know of like that already? I would think that would bring in big numbers. (Not suggesting from HR, it would be able to work with any/most USB products).

Naw, can't be done.........

Didn't I just say I built such a 'gadget' for Solo? I didn't lie this time. Several years ago. It won't do 80% but will do 90. Here's a photo of one of the prototypes (sorry about the link issue, you need to click on this one to see:
https://i.imgur.com/vMEGl5W.jpg

@ataxian, among several others has one, AFAIK still going strong. If you look at Battery University, https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries (or elsewhere), you find that the standard way of charging these guys is to apply a fixed current, typically half the capacity, until the voltage gets close to the target (4.2 Volts) then taper the current back slowly to keep under that value when charging stops (which could go on forever). When it gets down to 10% of that original charge current (.1 Amp if it was originally 1.0 Amps) it cuts off charging....lest it never end.

Understand the battery voltage which has been 'held' at 4.2 Volts drops a bit when the current stops to the final charge voltage. More drop 'earlier on' than later when it's finally cut.

The 'gadget' cuts it in 'stage 2' as described in the BU article.

So when you push the button lower right, the transistor upper right is turned on and charging current is allowed to flow from the jack upper left to the blue connector next to it (and out to the device) The current used is monitored on the 'shunt' resistors (3) next to that. When the maximum current drops to the value set by the screw on the blue variable resistor between switch and transistor charging current is cut and the 'beeper' (now covered with a protective label) beeps a few times to wake you up. The processor lower left controls the process. As a side benefit since the reduced current normally at the end of the cycle (the part we chop off) charges progressively slower and slower we also cut 20 minutes or more from the recharge time. Every time. Now you know another part of why I want to use my 'charging rig' for such things?

Naw, can't be done. Or someone would have done it a while ago.......

OF

 

[The Beagle]

But I only have IMGUR so I’ll have to join another picture sharing site.

I always used imgur here on FC, you should be fine with it.

 

[OF]

I always used imgur here on FC, you should be fine with it.

Me too, but it no longer works as before? Here's the link I just gave above in the normal 'BBCode' that has 'shown' in the past:

If I 'edit" or you (or others) 'reply' you can see it, but for normal 'reading the thread' not so"

OF

 

[Dynavaper]

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/please-stop-using-imgur.33374/

 

[ataxian]

Me too, but it no longer works as before? Here's the link I just gave above in the normal 'BBCode' that has 'shown' in the past:

If I 'edit" or you (or others) 'reply' you can see it, but for normal 'reading the thread' not so"

OF

I call my @OF creation da: “GIZMO”!

My SOLO won’t die?

 

[vaptronix]

Found the spec sheet for Fury 18500 battery if somebody's interested.
http://www.bec-vape.com/uploads/e877ec65.pdf

 

[CalyxSmokr]

Seriously considering this unit. how well does it do with half a load and come back later to finish it off. I am looking for an improvement over my Air which works fine but often I don't want a whole load and want something that won't cook so much when I turn it off and try to save the remainder. Also something that will take less time than Air sessions.
The full convection portables seem like what I want but frankly I want something a little cheaper if this can do what I desire.
How many minutes from turning on to turn off for a half load? Or would it be better to just not pack all the way. I thought I read the fury does better lightly packed but full.

 

[OF]

Seriously considering this unit. how well does it do with half a load and come back later to finish it off.

How many minutes from turning on to turn off for a half load? Or would it be better to just not pack all the way. I thought I read the fury does better lightly packed but full.

Sounds to me like you're a candidate for Dosing Capsules. They automatically hold less than filling the bowl and if you want to interrupt the session quickly, just dump the capsule out? It cools to under vaping temperatures almost instantly that way. Faster than pulling the stem on Air where the glass retains heat 'better' than the SS mesh of the capsules.

IMO four minutes (standard limit, you can't change it) is fine for most. Useful vapor within a minute, normal production in two? If you only want a couple hits you can easily shut down (3 presses) early.

Yes, full loads are better. Same as Air. You need something like a domed screen (or the capsules) to reduce the volume of the chamber or the herb moves in the hits which plays hob with conduction.

OF

 

[CalyxSmokr]

I am looking to do 0.05-0.06 gm per dose. I bet dosing capsule holds more than that. Anyone have an estimate for amount with domed screen?
Thanks, OF. Excellent info.

 

[OF]

I am looking to do 0.05-0.06 gm per dose. I bet dosing capsule holds more than that. Anyone have an estimate for amount with domed screen?
Thanks, OF. Excellent info.

Domed screens would be much more than that still. I suggest you get a MFLB? A normal trench is about .125, but it works quite well with a fraction of that since only the bottom (in contact with the screen) gets heated.

Silly me, I thought you wanted to stop early and reuse the load........

OF

 

[Ramahs]

I don't want a whole load and want something that won't cook so much when I turn it off and try to save the remainder.

I stop after only vaping the bowl about halfway all the time. I just make sure I turn it off right before I take the last pull, so that last pull cools down the heater and bowl. I've never felt I lost anything worth caring about when doing it that way. And I can easily pick it back up and turn it on later and finish it. Because I find it so easy to do that, I consider this a fairly on demand vape.

 

[bossman]

Seriously considering this unit. how well does it do with half a load and come back later to finish it off. I am looking for an improvement over my Air which works fine but often I don't want a whole load and want something that won't cook so much when I turn it off and try to save the remainder. Also something that will take less time than Air sessions.
The full convection portables seem like what I want but frankly I want something a little cheaper if this can do what I desire.
How many minutes from turning on to turn off for a half load? Or would it be better to just not pack all the way. I thought I read the fury does better lightly packed but full.

Of the vapes I own, the Lil Bud is best suited to your on-demand demands. The Splinter and Tubo would also work great. I'm a big fan of both the Fury 2 and the new Fierce. It's just that they are hybrid session vapes so they heat up in a minute and they do cook your load between draws and after you turn them off.

I can't recommend dosing caps with their more airy hits over the quick big clouds you can get from an on demand convection device.

 

[Vaporific]

Dosing capsules are great for small(er) amounts, quick reloads and different material. My experience so far is to up the temp just a bit with them; without the capsules I'm usually 365-375 depending on my preference. Indeed it does cook the loads while its on and I've gotten used to that. A great vape though!

My one (small) gripe about the F2 is that the display is hard to see in bright sunlight. And now that I've gotten used to having it for a few weeks, I'm using just as much material - lol. But I just got some new, fresh and moist stuff and it's lasting longer than my old stock which I just finished off. I think everyone needs to find their balance with it as with most vapes.