Discontinued Haze Dual V3

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

I hear you loud and clear, thou I do have a fear that at setting 4 the abv may be too spent for use. Do you find that to be the case?

 

[trevorzamani]

I hear you loud and clear, thou I do have a fear that at setting 4 the abv may be too spent for use. Do you find that to be the case?

My sessions run longer than my Pax and Davinci so i am happy. Maybe do a trial run on one bowl with can in it and check it out. You may like that better than 3rd setting. With a screen, you may run it down faster.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

You know what I think I'm going to do?

I think I'm to cross the Haze off my "Would Never Have Bought, Anyway" list.

And I think I'll add it to my "Comically Bad Threads" list.

But really, congratulations. I wish my quotes were so easily and so newly accessible to other vaporists about other competitive vaporizers, passively or aggressively. This company must be very thankful to have you posters around, at such a good time, to say such nice things at such a crucial point in their business.

Almost makes me want to forget this whole "cross off" business... except, not at all.



EDA SAYS NO!

 

[scottg402]

So... this company is posting your quotes without your knowledge.

And you're okay with it? Huh.

I don't give a fuck how much I love my HI or FF. They use my words without my knowledge, and they'd be getting more than a few quote-worthy comments from me.

But... I guess the sign of a good company is "surprising" you by using your own words to sell their product. Must be exciting.

Not sure who that's directed to but if it was me I would like to clarify that I am not okay with them putting it out there without my consent. If you look back, I said it was interesting. I never applauded them for the tactic.

I am weighing my options and here are my considerations.....

But before I tell you I would like to clarify something for everyone here......

It is my understanding that these quotes came from an email from vaporizerusa.net. This is in fact where I purchased my Haze from but it is my understanding that they are a distributor for this product, NOT HAZE themselves. I thought it was important to put that out there because by the way your post reads some people might derive that this communication came from Haze. I haven't dealt with vaporizerusa on anything but the service and response from Haze has been outstanding. They have a great product and they back it too. Even if it was Haze that doesn't diminish the performance of the device and how much I like it. I can separate the two topics. I would still love the device but yes I would have a very bad taste in my mouth if this were actually Haze doing this. I would certainly be calling them to discuss the situation.

Now back to the considerations......

1. I haven't gotten this email yet that shows my words. I am quoted but I have been waiting for it because without proof to my inbox I am not ready to blow anyone up. I'll take a forward if someone has one because I have looked on both the Haze site and the vaporizerusa site and found nothing specific to me in any of the reviews online. This must be some email only thing.

2. I also didn't know if there were any rules to the FC forum that allowed for this. I looked through the rules and didn't see anything either way but WFT are the rules of the internet in the first place? If you put your words out to the world you can't be too surprised with what people might do with them. I'm not condoning it but just sayin'......

3. When I purchased this from vaporizerusa I did get that free grinder. Nothing in life is ever free so I am wondering if there is some fine print somewhere that I overlooked that allows for some BS like this. I am planning on following up with them by Monday whether I get the email or not. If there is no stipulation that I agreed to, you bet they are going to get an earful. Especially for using part of my name.

So in essence I agree with you. If this is happening, it's wrong and I am not happy.

But I also realize that it probably comes down to some dumb ass in marketing with next to no experience with some seriously poor judgment who did something that their boss would kick their ass for but is too stupid to know any better so how mad can you get?

By the way...I hope that dumb ass is reading this shit right now and finally realizes what a dumb ass they are and never does some dumb ass shit like that again! Oh and if you are still reading you should probably go ahead and delete that shit right now! Hopefully then you won't get in trouble or even worse, lose your job you dumb ass!

Sorry for the mini

 

[trevorzamani]

You know what I think I'm going to do?

I think I'm to cross the Haze off my "Would Never Have Bought, Anyway" list.

And I think I'll add it to my "Comically Bad Threads" list.

But really, congratulations. I wish my quotes were so easily and so newly accessible to other vaporists about other competitive vaporizers, passively or aggressively. This company must be very thankful to have you posters around, at such a good time, to say such nice things at such a crucial point in their business.

Almost makes me want to forget this whole "cross off" business... except, not at all.



EDA SAYS NO!

I dont think that there is anything wrong with being passionate about owning a new vape and being one of the first people to review that. When I bought my other vapes, i read and participated plenty on other forums as well. I joined here because this was the only forum that listed Haze (thanks to Mr. Weed which I saw that he owns his own review site and also posted many new coming products on this forum). Anybody can use my quotes, words or reviews if they find them useful. Isnt that the point of discussing something publicly? I would be honored rather than insulted.

 

[scottg402]

I hear you loud and clear, thou I do have a fear that at setting 4 the abv may be too spent for use. Do you find that to be the case?

I don't recycle but I would probably say yes, it is done. I would equate it to ABV of a Pax high setting.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

Wow. Bullshit galore.

I am going to leave this up to the intelligence of my FC brethren.

I encourage everyone to carefully read this post, and decide for himself / herself.

Could not be more obvious to me.

I would be honored rather than insulted.

Yeah, that's actually a serious negative, in reviewing.

 

[trevorzamani]

Wow. Bullshit galore.

I am going to leave this up to the intelligence of my FC brethren.

I encourage everyone to carefully read this post, and decide for himself / herself.

Could not be more obvious to me.



Yeah, that's actually a serious negative, in reviewing.

No need to respond to this any longer. I guess you find some form of amusement insulting people's posts. Everyone is welcome to read all my posts.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

No need to respond to this any longer. I guess you find some form of amusement insulting people's posts. Everyone is welcome to read all my posts.

Yeah. I'm just a troller who's had 1400 posts over a year and a half. You have way more clout than I do. It's the long con. Really.

Check through my posts, big shot, and you'll see I'm one of the nicest guys on FC.

I just happen to think this vaporizer is a phony piece of shit. The vape that was desperate for reviewers when it came out, and still is.

No offense, really.

mod note: You're close to a 'not nice' warning for the big shot comment and the overboard product attack, so your "one of the nicest guys" claim is pretty weak.

 

[trevorzamani]

I dont have a problem with you raising your opinion about the vape but I am not sure why you are targeting me, my posts specifically and implying stuff. It is great that you have 1401 posts. Yes I am relatively new here and I am not going to get to 1400s with posts that are insulting other members. Time will reveal.

 

[CarolKing]

So... this company is posting your quotes without your knowledge.

And you're okay with it? Huh.

I don't give a fuck how much I love my HI or FF. They use my words without my knowledge, and they'd be getting more than a few quote-worthy comments from me.

But... I guess the sign of a good company is "surprising" you by using your own words to sell their product. Must be exciting.

I think if something is posted online it's public knowledge. I think anybody can copy anything online that's written. Someone let me know if I'm wrong.

 

[rekrab]

dude states hes a manic depressive in his sig and then comes into threads flingging shit then saying hes the nicest dude ever. whats up here?

mod note: What's up is you keeping things stirred up. Either ignore posts with attitude or report them. Those are your only legit choices.

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

I think if something is posted online it's public knowledge. I think anybody can copy anything online that's written. Someone let me know if I'm wrong.

If someone posts something on FC, it is up to FC administration to decide what can be done with that quote.

It's in the rules.

If that's not the case, I'd love @vtac or @pakalolo or @max or @stickstones or @momofthegoons or @Stu or any other administrator to tell me differently.

Even if it not an OFFICIAL rule, it's fucking bush-league, to not tell a poster you're using your quote for a site that ANYONE COULD SEE.

Oh, but I don't care! As long as someone somewhere is reading something I posted!

 

[Stu]

You know what I think I'm going to do?

I think I'm to cross the Haze off my "Would Never Have Bought, Anyway" list.

And I think I'll add it to my "Comically Bad Threads" list.

But really, congratulations. I wish my quotes were so easily and so newly accessible to other vaporists about other competitive vaporizers, passively or aggressively. This company must be very thankful to have you posters around, at such a good time, to say such nice things at such a crucial point in their business.

Almost makes me want to forget this whole "cross off" business... except, not at all.



EDA SAYS NO!

Wow. Bullshit galore.

I am going to leave this up to the intelligence of my FC brethren.

I encourage everyone to carefully read this post, and decide for himself / herself.

Could not be more obvious to me.



Yeah, that's actually a serious negative, in reviewing.

Yeah. I'm just a troller who's had 1400 posts over a year and a half. You have way more clout than I do. It's the long con. Really.

Check through my posts, big shot, and you'll see I'm one of the nicest guys on FC.

I just happen to think this vaporizer is a phony piece of shit. The vape that was desperate for reviewers when it came out, and still is.

No offense, really.

EDA, I can see you don't like this vaporizer. I get it. But you're very close to crossing line here with your remarks which come off to me as very passive aggressive. TBH I don't even understand what you are calling "bullshit" on?

You are purposely being condescending to fellow forum members and I can't even tell why.

Please re read the forum rules, especially this part:

• All members must be treated in a respectful and adult manner. All members should respect and adhere to the promotion of harmony within the community. Do not attempt to disrupt the community in any way.
• No flaming. Please do not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member. Be nice to newbies.
• Liking flame posts by clicking the corresponding “Like” button is strongly discouraged and may result in a warning point depending on the situation.
• Don’t attack products or companies. You can post your opinion, and you can criticize, but posts written to offend are not allowed.

You have stated your opinion - such as it is - so now you can focus your attention in other threads. Further comments along the lines of the above will bring a warning point.

Unless you have something substantial to add to the discussion, please do not post.

 

[scottg402]

I don't know what all that was about but this I do know.....

I took a chance in this vape and I'm glad I did. I don't care if others like it, buy it or whatever. There is no benefit to me. I think the folks that got in early are just trying to share their experience here so others can make a better informed decision on whether they want in or not. After all isn't that one of the main ideas behind this thread?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and this vape isn't for everyone. I am sure someone can always find a vape they like better or is cheaper or has better temp control or whatever. You get the point. It's not perfect so let's spend time discussing how we would get there as opposed this crap we got going here.

 

[trevorzamani]

About to throw in my review on the Haze after two sessions with it.

I received my package in a reasonable amount of time. However, the extra screens I ordered were missing from my order. Not sure this will be any big deal for me, but I will have to make contact about the mistake.

I threw my batteries on the charger, however I noticed that on the bottom of one of the spares had become unseated, revealing a small circuit board. It doesn't stay seated well in place when I push it back. I doubt I'll be able to use the battery. However, I may be responsible for this. The batteries look like they were individually wrapped in a plastic coating that looked like it should be removed...but maybe it wasn't intended for removal.

Now onto the vape:

For my first session I packed loosely broken herb directly into the canisters (no coffee grinder present). I attempted to use the convection screen with the oil can. The results from this really weren't great. With the first canister I did eventually pull out some clouds, but the vape had alot of difficulty coming to the appropriate temp it seems. On the second canister I got no visible clouds at all. However, my ABV was still dark in both canisters when removed.

I decided that although I was medicated fine at that stage I still wanted to see how I would fare without the convection screen in place, as I suspected that may be giving me trouble...so I popped in a canister without the convection screen and went right for setting number 3 (approximately 385 if I recall). What a difference! The unit went up to temperature much faster and I was getting very nice clouds without any difficulty whatsoever. I was a little absentminded and didn't time my session, but I certainly had no complaints.

My second session was last night, and was completed with a single canister of herb, again, just loosely broken. Once again, the unit performed great. Came up to temperature in a decent amount of time and gave some great flavorful hits. I tried to take a few puffs on the second setting but found the vapor clouds a little to wispy for me (I will try each setting individually in a future session) so went right back to the third setting, which is a pretty happy temp for me. I also made a temporary rig so that I could use my F-bomb diffuser and was able to draw some very impressive clouds. Later inspection revealed that the seal wasn't quite airtight. I will experiment hopefully tonight with an airtight seal and hopefully produce even better results. I realize the water tool nulls out the stealthiness of the vape, but I was curious and wanted to see what I could do.

I'm curious what sort of life everyone is getting from their batteries. It seems for me that my first battery drained off shortly after that 3rd canister.

I will continue to post with my future findings, as well as head to head comparisons between the Haze and the Ascent, as well as the Flowermate V. I will be trying to address efficiency, convenience, flavor, etc. If there are any qualities in particular anyone would care to see, please let me know and I will do my best to incorporate them.

@virtualpurple Can you take a picture of your water tool setup and share here. I never used a water tool with a portable vaporizer before and want to see if I can find anything to attach to this. Looking forward to your feedback on it.

 

[Reveen]

I don't really care if they used my forum post in their marketing as long as it isn't against FC rules. However, claiming that the quote they used was a review for their product, and not explaining that it was just an observation about a design feature from someone who has never even seen the product, isn't a good business practice.

But really, what can you do? This is the Internet.

 

[virtualpurple]

Are you guys wading your oil cans out after every session? I ask only because my last two bowls of herb in the oil rig have produced little to no vapor.
I had vaped an oil can previous to those two, which worked quite well and produced nice thick vapor. I'm pretty perplexed.

@virtualpurple Can you take a picture of your water tool setup and share here. I never used a water tool with a portable vaporizer before and want to see if I can find anything to attach to this. Looking forward to your feedback on it.

I will post it as soon as I'm able to get home and assemble. Will probably be tomorrow morning before I'm back home to my water tools.

In the meantime, I'm hoping you guys can guide me back to the clouds.

 

[mrweed]

I've seen them reference this forum a couple times on different sites. Also they are starting to advertise dry herb in the oil can which @scottg402 came up with. So they're looking at their feedback and that's great.

just for the record, i believe that at least one of the reviews in here is fake, too. so just don't believe anything you read in here guys. However, if the product is as good as people say, than this is absolutely unnecessary.

i don't see a problem with FC beeing used for commercial purposes, but they should create a manufacturers/commercial account here if they do, at least and tell people about it. I mean they are welcome to introduce their product themself here

 

[215z]

Forgive me if I missed it earlier in the thread, but is there a functional video here? The kind where an FC member blows some clouds...

 

[scottg402]

Are you guys wading your oil cans out after every session? I ask only because my last two bowls of herb in the oil rig have produced little to no vapor.
I had vaped an oil can previous to those two, which worked quite well and produced nice thick vapor. I'm pretty perplexed.




I will post it as soon as I'm able to get home and assemble. Will probably be tomorrow morning before I'm back home to my water tools.

In the meantime, I'm hoping you guys can guide me back to the clouds.

What temp are you running at? I usually start at 3 and them move to 4 at the end of the session for a few hits.

I think a lot depends on how long you let it warm up and also how your battery is doing. I felt the same way on one can then I swapped out the battery and it seemed to help. Maybe it was coincidental but I thought I read something somewhere that made reference to the battery and the performance of the unit when the juice was low.

Also check your seal on the lid and how much you fill it. I think those are factors as well.

Lastly make sure you drop them in the bowls the proper way. The hooks should be facing towards you if you have the device in front of you.

In comparison with my Pax I find that it takes a bit longer on the sessions. This can be a good thing or bad thing depending on your needs. If I need to get there quickly I reach for my Pax. If time isn't an issue I reach for my Haze. Haze offers a better taste without the restrictive draw. That said you can speed things up a lot and get bigger clouds if you run on 4 the whole session. I just like 3 better for most of it because of the amount of tasty draws you get. It's the same reason I run my Pax on low the whole session and only bump to medium partially through.

In the end, everyone has their opinion on these subjects. Keep tinkering around to find what you like. Good luck!

 

[Reveen]

I'd just like to state (in case the manufacturer of this vape is reading this thread) that I probably wouldn't buy this vape even if it was great...this whole "review" without permission thing is leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I would either like my "review" removed from the list, or a test unit sent to me so I can actually do an honest review and not just make a comment about a design feature that I like for a vaporizer I've never even seen. I don't mean to be difficult, but I feel that potential customers are being mislead...and I'm not down with that.

 

[mrweed]

why investing in real and honest marketing, when you can have it for free?! :/

 

[Reveen]

why investing in real and honest marketing, when you can have it for free?! :/

Mistakes like this can completely destroy a potential customers perception of a company. I have a degree in advertising and we had to take several courses dealing with advertising and marketing ethics, and how important it is to cast a good light on your company through advertising, and how detrimental it can be if you don't...especially for a brand new product.

 

[NickDlow]

just for the record, i believe that at least one of the reviews in here is fake, too. so just don't believe anything you read in here guys. However, if the product is as good as people say, than this is absolutely unnecessary.

i don't see a problem with FC beeing used for commercial purposes, but they should create a manufacturers account here if they do, at least and tell people about it. I mean they are welcome to introduce their product themself here

Who do u think is fake? Lol and I believe the company said they were looking for someone to be on this thread fulltime...

Also to clear something up these "reviews" didn't come from haze technologies. VaporizerUSA sent out that email with these "reviews" trying to promote it not haze. The only thing I saw the actual company refer to was to check out "popular" forums to see what people think.

So in my opinion the gripe should be with vaporizerUSA. Why isn't anyone jumping down their throats?

There are better vapes, cheaper vapes and so on n so forth. But this one fits my needs and I expressed my opinion. This thread isn't about glorifying the haze if u look back I personally have some negative feedback that I've posted.

I still have other vapes I use for different situations. I don't think one vape is definitively above the rest they all have strengths n weaknesses in the end it's personal preference.