Having a rough time taking a break.
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My first time quitting I had night sweats bad. I would have to switch sheets in the middle of the night or lay on the couch. Also I did not remember how to sleep. I would just lay in bed with my eyes shut and wait hours to fall asleep.
I know its different with medical user but this taught me a lot about my personal intake and habits of smoking.
It was probably 2 or 3 years of smoking before my first break. I've been smoking now for 10 years.... I now try to be more responsible and understanding of my intake and watch how it effects my body and life.
Over the past 2 years taking breaks has been a lot easier. I have quit a few times over the past 2 years for 30(+/-) days for jobs or just self improvment. Night sweats are less when i quit if at all these days. Sometimes I'll drink a caffeine free tea or sleeping tea mix before bed and have a melitonin to get my sleeping back on track. I have used kava to deal with anxious/pissy withdrawal attitude. Exercise is the best... And staying busy... Read a book before bed...
I haven't had any fresh material in awhile and am completely dry now (not really by choice) What I did this time to get to this point was save up abv. I had not vaped it to Blackness's it was still brown. I would put in a jar, and re vape a bowl of it and then put it back in the jar of abv where it came from. So every time I would revape the abv I would put it back and the abv stash would lose potency. Eventually there was nothing good left in it. I'm not sure if this method was better then cold turkey.... Cold turkey kind of gave me motivation ..
I wrote this on my phone so it probably sucks.
Also my go to drugs for needing to get to sleep asap... Benadryl and ibuprofen... Works everytime, but could be habit forming.
Also when the sleeping thing gets sorted and I get to sleep, dreams can be really vivid and crazy, they could be bad or good. I kind of look forward them... When I wake up I feel so refreshed and ready to go.
The hardest of the withdrawal symptoms usually last 2-6 days.
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biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
@snamuh thanks for your experiences. I tried benedryl before, no success....tried so many things, but nothing works when i'm going through withdrawal, even sleeping pills. It takes the few weeks for the neurotransmitters and receptors to "wake up" and get melatonin producing again endogeniously on its own naturally. I may have to resort to your benedryl and ibuprofin combo, although I hate IBU's due to constipating properties. Would tylenol work as well or aspirin?
So night 2 last night without vaping...just vaped a bit in the day. Not even a minute of sleep again, but instead of going to piss a 1/2 dozen times through the night, it was only twice, and the sweats weren't nearly as bad. But, like you said - it's like I need to learn how to fall asleep again since i've been so dependent on the ganga for so long. I'm exhausted from being awake the night before, yet I close my eyes and can't fall asleep.
Shit like this takes time.....I like my new plan to vape a bit in the morning, and then maybe once in the afternoon and call it a day to help with symptoms. I just can't wait for that first good sober sleep when I wake up after 7-8hrs and feel so clear headed, happy, and ready to take on the world. It's been a while, sadly, and it's starting to seriously negatively affect my life again, which is why i'm taking action NOW. If I stopped cold turkey, i'd be suffering much more miserably right now with way more withdrawal effects. At least my appetite is still somewhat decent, and I really hope not to experience the nausea that I did the first time I took a break years ago. That sucked, feeling like I was gonna puke for no reason.
So night 2 last night without vaping...just vaped a bit in the day. Not even a minute of sleep again, but instead of going to piss a 1/2 dozen times through the night, it was only twice, and the sweats weren't nearly as bad. But, like you said - it's like I need to learn how to fall asleep again since i've been so dependent on the ganga for so long. I'm exhausted from being awake the night before, yet I close my eyes and can't fall asleep.
Shit like this takes time.....I like my new plan to vape a bit in the morning, and then maybe once in the afternoon and call it a day to help with symptoms. I just can't wait for that first good sober sleep when I wake up after 7-8hrs and feel so clear headed, happy, and ready to take on the world. It's been a while, sadly, and it's starting to seriously negatively affect my life again, which is why i'm taking action NOW. If I stopped cold turkey, i'd be suffering much more miserably right now with way more withdrawal effects. At least my appetite is still somewhat decent, and I really hope not to experience the nausea that I did the first time I took a break years ago. That sucked, feeling like I was gonna puke for no reason.
I'm not sure if tylonal or aspirin work. Maybe take the benadryl and ibuprofin as a last resort. What I mean is go to bed and try to sleep... Then after awhile if you don't fall asleep take the pills. That's usually how I have been taking it...
Ibuprohen might not be necessary.. I have taking just the benadryl and it works for me. I just know that some sleeping pills have both in them.
olivianewtonjohn
Well-Known Member
That feeling is going to be very worth it, as of late my usage has gone up some and when I stop I enjoy the clear headedness exactly as you describe. Im sure you have thought of this but have you tried supplementing with melatonin at night?
grokit
well-worn member
@biohacker, have you ever tried muscle relaxers? I've been using flexeril, don't recommend soma.
ButterMan
Active Member
@biohacker try making an herbal tea with the herbs Golden rod, skull cap, and chamomile. This helps me get to sleep I suffer from insomnia and I'm in constant pain all the time. It really helps. I've personally never had any withdrawals symptoms from vape or ingesting. But tobacco on the other hand that will give you some withdrawals
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I haven't tried muscle relaxants.
I've tried those herbs with no success and tea makes me sweat even more. Last night wasn't too bad, restless sleep and moderate sweat.
There are countless anecdotes of people saying that quitting cigs is a cakewalk compared to cannabis as well.
I've tried those herbs with no success and tea makes me sweat even more. Last night wasn't too bad, restless sleep and moderate sweat.
There are countless anecdotes of people saying that quitting cigs is a cakewalk compared to cannabis as well.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
Been a while so thought I would update. Still having horrible night sweats, even when i'm not going through withdrawal... it's like my body expects the weed all the time....and if it doesn't get it at night I sweat. I dunno, I honestly have no clue at this point, but I honestly would bet my life on it that it's related to the weed. It's seriously negatively affecting my life now...I literally have to wash my sheets daily and the nights are a fucking nightmare. I'm too fucking scared to stop and face the REAL withdrawal effects. It's nearly impossible with a full time job. Fack, why did I have to get to THIS point (again)? I feel so stupid, weak, and helpless that I can't even figure this out.
So I stumbled upon this post as i'm researching my course of action, and it definitley hit home for me:
I surely have.
I got it real bad back in my Alcoholic days, but the weed definitely does it too. (as I recall it really kicked in when I was coming off of both booze and chiba)
There are three solutions I've found:
-Ween yourself down to smokes only every other day (if your smokin 3+ times a day, once a night should good enough)
-Smoke enough weed each day and night so your successfully supplying system (this surely is the best solution, unless you got things to do like a job)
-Stop smoking for a couple weeks
From what I gather, the reason the cold sweats happen is because of psychological reverberations that are manifesting while you sleep. Normally they would just reverb across your cerebrum all day. However, if your a frequent enough smoker the weed-high totally kicks those thought processes to the curb. But because those thoughts still exist, they keep piling up every time they are kicked to the curb, until they build up into a big stinky pile of shit thoughts.
Eventually the big stinky pile of bad thoughts mulls up into a monster that you can battle with 1 of 2 things i know of.
Maximum Weed - Contain the monster within a secret lab, where it may occasionally swipe at and consume your relationships.
No Weed - Lets the monster rampage as you battle it head on with rockets as relationships flea in panic.
if it's not so bad, it's probably not a giant monster and only a deadly mongoose, but either way it must be dealt with, otherwise it just keeps on hangin around.
Personally, having no weed is a shitty fuckin option. But no weed for a couple weeks every month or 2 usually helps the maximum amount.
and no matter what, if you intend to keep smoking invest in a Vaporizer. that REALLY helps with all the negative symtoms of smokin weed.
LASTLY:::
The problem may not be your smoking habits at all. It may just be the specific weed your using. I know for sure that some weed doesn't do good shit for me, some is down right depressing or itchy. Gotta find the stuff that's damn good for you, and keep it if you can. Live in Cali? you got plenty of options there! I'm fucked in the east coast and can only get what I can only get.
Cheers!
And so I keep on truckin........ i'm done with "maximum weed"......
So I stumbled upon this post as i'm researching my course of action, and it definitley hit home for me:
I surely have.
I got it real bad back in my Alcoholic days, but the weed definitely does it too. (as I recall it really kicked in when I was coming off of both booze and chiba)
There are three solutions I've found:
-Ween yourself down to smokes only every other day (if your smokin 3+ times a day, once a night should good enough)
-Smoke enough weed each day and night so your successfully supplying system (this surely is the best solution, unless you got things to do like a job)
-Stop smoking for a couple weeks
From what I gather, the reason the cold sweats happen is because of psychological reverberations that are manifesting while you sleep. Normally they would just reverb across your cerebrum all day. However, if your a frequent enough smoker the weed-high totally kicks those thought processes to the curb. But because those thoughts still exist, they keep piling up every time they are kicked to the curb, until they build up into a big stinky pile of shit thoughts.
Eventually the big stinky pile of bad thoughts mulls up into a monster that you can battle with 1 of 2 things i know of.
Maximum Weed - Contain the monster within a secret lab, where it may occasionally swipe at and consume your relationships.
No Weed - Lets the monster rampage as you battle it head on with rockets as relationships flea in panic.
if it's not so bad, it's probably not a giant monster and only a deadly mongoose, but either way it must be dealt with, otherwise it just keeps on hangin around.
Personally, having no weed is a shitty fuckin option. But no weed for a couple weeks every month or 2 usually helps the maximum amount.
and no matter what, if you intend to keep smoking invest in a Vaporizer. that REALLY helps with all the negative symtoms of smokin weed.
LASTLY:::
The problem may not be your smoking habits at all. It may just be the specific weed your using. I know for sure that some weed doesn't do good shit for me, some is down right depressing or itchy. Gotta find the stuff that's damn good for you, and keep it if you can. Live in Cali? you got plenty of options there! I'm fucked in the east coast and can only get what I can only get.
Cheers!
And so I keep on truckin........ i'm done with "maximum weed"......
LongIslandmom
Well-Known Member
So have you been going without this whole time?
It's the hardest thing I ever done - ok not as bad as childbirth
It can make you feel so incomplete
It can make you feel like real shit..
It makes you feel guilty when you finally do it
This throat thing has turned me into misery. So at some point I just don't know what to tell you except keep trying. Every day without is a triumph of sorts
Man you think we were talking about heroin or crystal meth or something
Just do what you need to do either way
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biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
No pharma drugs..... as for medical or rec.... both! But during the times I was successful in quitting (longest was 5 weeks), I went without it so obviously I CAN live without it. That was a loooong time ago...the last time was in the summer when I went 2 weeks and it was unbearable so I went back to it.
Just got back from ikea..spoke to the beddings specialist and she thinks it may be my waterproof mattress pad because it doesn't breathe. So I swapped it out for a not waterproof breathable one, and bought a couple of new lighter duvets, so i'm wishful for a less sweaty night tonight.
I still want to take a protracted break, and I feel it will be soon, but again right this minute isn't the right time. It's gotta feel right! It's nice to vent here!
Just got back from ikea..spoke to the beddings specialist and she thinks it may be my waterproof mattress pad because it doesn't breathe. So I swapped it out for a not waterproof breathable one, and bought a couple of new lighter duvets, so i'm wishful for a less sweaty night tonight.
I still want to take a protracted break, and I feel it will be soon, but again right this minute isn't the right time. It's gotta feel right! It's nice to vent here!
Dark_Wolf
Registered Vaporist
Haha I agree! I find cannabis to be wonderful for both rec and therapeutic use.
What do you medicate for?
When do you typically medicate? It it just before bed?
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
I could probably fit under many categories for medicinal use, and it would be a laundry list! lol
My medication schedule is pretty erratic but lately has started my day and sporadically during the day as time permits, and then most of the evening.
My plan is to stop with the mornings but damn, it can make the difference between a shitting morning and a great morning (and rest of the day).
My medication schedule is pretty erratic but lately has started my day and sporadically during the day as time permits, and then most of the evening.
My plan is to stop with the mornings but damn, it can make the difference between a shitting morning and a great morning (and rest of the day).
LongIslandmom
Well-Known Member
Well my throat just sucks. I am also doing breathing exercises. I'm still on radio silence.
I made the cannaoil but may try it on Friday. Now it's been so long I'm afraid. And I too feel like it mite be a weakness that I should beat. Not forever. But I am just so nervous
Having trouble sleeping. Acid reflux. Gee when is this gonna get fun agin
You can do this; if I'm doing it than anyone can.
LongIslandmom
Well-Known Member
My t-break friends
The more you break the better it is when you go back. I've been doing it all year. Since Jan I was holding off during the week and then pulling out the vapes on the weeknd. Pick also did 3 bigger breaks (10 - 20 days). I found at those times it was hardest to get thru the weekends.
But - when you're thinking about doing it's your body saying " I want to do it". It doesn't mean that you don't want; I'm all over the site and 6 + strong. Yes, I have no choice. Remember unlike me, you always have the ability to return to getting high. So look at the t-break as something you are checking out; not something you are doing for life.
I think that"s why this break is bumming me so much. I know that I can't do it for health reasons. So I'm afraid that it's gone for good or that I will feel to guilty when I do. Each day you make it say yeah; if you don't say fuck it.
As for me, I'm just praying the edibles work. Then I will crank up the music really loud.
The more you break the better it is when you go back. I've been doing it all year. Since Jan I was holding off during the week and then pulling out the vapes on the weeknd. Pick also did 3 bigger breaks (10 - 20 days). I found at those times it was hardest to get thru the weekends.
But - when you're thinking about doing it's your body saying " I want to do it". It doesn't mean that you don't want; I'm all over the site and 6 + strong. Yes, I have no choice. Remember unlike me, you always have the ability to return to getting high. So look at the t-break as something you are checking out; not something you are doing for life.
I think that"s why this break is bumming me so much. I know that I can't do it for health reasons. So I'm afraid that it's gone for good or that I will feel to guilty when I do. Each day you make it say yeah; if you don't say fuck it.
As for me, I'm just praying the edibles work. Then I will crank up the music really loud.
Blazein5
Well-Known Member
just off a 2 week break I've got to say it was a bit tougher than expected the first few day, haven't take a break several years. I can say for sure its changed my vapeing ways for life, since coming back about a week ago i've been getting blasted off one rip not even one stem one rip and honestly don't even care to vape daily anymore. I'm going to keep this going just enjoying life and mj more than I have in a long time. I should also note I'm a recreational user that let my tolerance get way out of hand so ymmv.
biohacker
H.R.E.A.M
So sorry to hear about your throat.... I hope the time flies and accelerates the healing process for you!
I know I can do it, but it's the physical illness that manifests that seems to be preventing me. It's like I need to take a break from work and go through hell for a month, which isn't happening because i've been through that before. And regardless I keep falling into the trap every single time.
Depends how you look at it, I think you're kinda lucky because it's forced - I don't have that luxury lol Seriously though, look at the bright side - you're gonna have one hell of a trip back!
Thanks for your post dude, this is exactly the kind of motivation that i'm looking for! I was in your shoes at one point too, but then fell off the horse into the trap, and it's hard to get back up sometimes.
LongIslandmom
Well-Known Member
Less is more. That's the mantra. Less is more
Biohacker
Never feel guilty. Do what is comfortable. It's pot not heroin or crystal meth
Just be careful. Never wise to drive high. Hide it from those who would not understand - you know eye drops. You know I'm with you and who I'm I to talk - I don't know how to post a fucking picture, I don't know to buy or use a good bubbler; ii ruined my voice on cigerattes (10 mos now not 1 butt - did it on my own cold turkey). I have 2 kids with birthdays these week. - I can't get on the fone to say happy birthday
But I have kept off 30 lbs and still dropping; I faced my biggest fear and marched myself into the ENT; I forced my husband to get a physical and we beat his prostat cancer and I make the meanest penna alla vodka this side of the Mason-Dixon Line (just make it - don't it eat)
Do what you can; don't beat yourself up over what you didn't or wouldn't or couldn't
I should listen to my own advice!!!!!!
LI Squeaky Fromme Mom
... do you guys know about brainwave synchronization audio?