Discontinued Ghost MV1

[Mr Mellish]

@Mr Mellish, am I correct in assuming that you are saying that his unit is running hot since your vape is issue-free, so your using you're vape as a baseline. Right? Or am I still lost? If so, I'll have to go back & re-watch his vid & re-read your post for my obviously lack of comprehension.

I'm not passing judgement on either MV1; I'm merely making an observation that his clouds at 385 seem similar to mine on A1 (338F according to the app) and pales compared to A2 (365F) or A3 (392F). I do kind of wonder what firmware he was on when he did this.

Additionally, the entire comparison seems odd to me. The Elev8r seems like the most likely choice for a "one hit and quit" device just because the heat isn't regulated in any way. How hot does 30-35 seconds with a torch get that thing? Is it a valid comparison? Is there any reason to expect the Mighty, the Air and the MV1 to be one hitters? I would expect any of those three devices to give a whispy hit on initial warm-up.

Maybe I'm the one missing something.

 

[skyvaper]

I have to agree with @Mr Mellish when comparing battery convection, hybrid convection/conduction and torch convection. Apples, kiwi, oranges.
I'll also agree that I see that much vapor @338 on my vape as well. Maybe the crucible was not full or material had a higher moisture content.

 

[Mr Mellish]

For what it's worth, I fill the crucible loosely and have never stirred. Here is a shot of my typical ABV. There is no green anywhere in the remnants.

 

[Just Justin]

Wow, shoot man, I expected a couple of paragraphs. This right here took a lot of time and work. Really cool. This is everything all compiled into one page. Awesomeness. I’ll spend some time to look through.

Thanks for checking it out! it took some time, probably too much but there was a lot to cover. Next is the ArGo!

All I can say is WOW! that was some write-up. You may not have been formerly trained as a writer, but you can certainly write. KUDOS! I am now a follower.


I don't understand what you mean by it being closer to A3 if you say he has his vape in the vid set to A1. I'm thoroughly confused. Please elaborate.

OH! I almost forgot the thing I wanted to PROCLAIM -- that I am now getting the same vapor output as @Dazza78! Glory to the powers that be! Now, I get to worry that I may be one of those unfortunate ones that all of a sudden their wonderful vape stops working. Perish the thought! I've already paid my due these past 4-1/2 months!

Thank you for the kind words! I try but I know I'm missing a lot and grammar is not my forte...

Amazing review! Best I've read or seen about the MV-1! Well done @Just Justin!

I learned a lot about my vape and got some really cool tips to try....changing to different temps using the app was pretty awesome and fun.....don't know why I hadn't tried it before.

Thanks for sharing with us Justin!

Thank you for checking it out! I'm glad you learned some stuff and I hope it helps you enjoy the MVB-1 even more!

 

[analytika]

@Alegre, I think @Just Justin needs to copyright it before someone plagiarizes it. And, I ain't kidding.

Copyright is less something you do than something that simply is without you taking action. Unless you're planning on sueing someone. You don't need to file anything to have the right to send a dcma takedown notice.

 

[wrangler]

So, is the first hit a dry out hit? I don’t understand why you don’t get the real deal on the first hit. Lots of taste, but very little vapor. If you have to do a primar hit the first, then it really isn’t an on demand unit, right? Thoughts?

 

[Summer]

Because it's a convection & not conduction or a hybrid. It can take a hit or 2 to get the hot air to heat the herb sufficiently to produce vapor. The Milaana2 (& maybe the li'l bud) is the only convection vape that I currently know of the can produce strong vapor on the 1st hit if you prime it right. And being that it's convection means that it's on-demand. A conduction vape will continue to cook your herb as long as it's on & will continue to even if you turn it off until it cools down. With convection, you are only applying heat when you decide to by engaging a button.

Here's a quote from a review that @VCBud did discussioning vapor output:

Question: What was the difference to your live feed where no vapor was coming out?"

"So I'm sure anyone with a convection vape can attest to this, but generally if the stars aren't aligning then vapor production will not be optimal. Basically I had only used the vape a few times before my live stream, and not thinking I ground up a different strain for the stream than what I tested it with before.

This vape, well pure convection vapes in general, are wayyy more sensitive to things like strain and heat level than hybrid vapes. For example, the Mighty is a hybrid heating vape, and I can get loads of vapor from it at as low as 350F, which is damn near impossible with a true convection vape.

I had it on the wrong heat level when I started the stream basically. Before the stream I dialed in my temp with a different strain and it just wasn't hot enough with the new strain I loaded. I didn't realize this was the issue until the last bowl I vaped, I kept thinking I was loading it wrong or something. I also might not have waiting long enough for the vape to pre-heat before I started hitting it, I got a little impatient and started drawing before the light turned green, sometimes it takes a little while to heat up for the first draw.

Just goes to show you that most vapes are not perfect and will require some experimenting for optimal and consistent results."

 

[stickstones]

depends on your bud. I've got about 5 different strains I'm playing with right now and some of them kill it on the first hit while others wait for the second hit before releasing their goodies.

 

[SirCrackKillaH]

depends on your bud. I've got about 5 different strains I'm playing with right now and some of them kill it on the first hit while others wait for the second hit before releasing their goodies.

I agree 100% with this. Depending on the bud being used, vapor will be produced on the first hit. I’ve cycled many different kinds of bud through it over the last month. More than I’ve ever done before. I found that some required higher temps to really get going. Not producing visible vapor on level 2 or reduced compared to 3 and up. Then other buds producing clouds on level 2 right from the jump.

Part of it has been the consistency of the grind, the other part consistency of the bud as far as dryness, wetness, etc.

 

[stickstones]

My imperfect beta unit has weaseled its way into my daily rotation with Herbie and the Volcano these days. Low temp hits are amazing, and extracts are divine. I'm dialing in my high temp hits and this is where I think the final design tweaks will be noticed. A little more tweaking of the battery and algorithms and it will probably be done and darn near perfect.

It didn't take much use to forget about any complaints I might have had in the beginning about the control scheme, size or weight. Those issues are a thing of the past for me. It fits in my pocket and balances the weight well when I hold it. It's a little heavy in my pocket, but getting around is no problem. And with the crucible holder packed I'm good to go for a long time.

But the hits! I've been chasing portable on-demand hits like this for years, so I'm excited we're finally getting there in the market. Keep your eyes on this one, guys...it's already one of my favorites and it's just gonna get better. I'm looking forward to how it functions when they resume sales.

Almost time for that yummy first hit of the day!

 

[Summer]

@stickstones, I thought they did resume sales with the recent android & ios update. The replacement I just got with the latest android update & 2nd mp upgrade is working fabulously. Can't even image how stellar the MV2 is gonna be!

 

[stickstones]

Did they? Right on!

 

[Summer]

@stickstones, ss far as I know, they stopped selling somewhere between 1200 & 1500 units (most, if not all, were Bud's pre-orders) when they realized they had a problem. You can go to GV's site now & order & you'll get the latest firmware updates.

Did you get the app to work & did you update yours with the latest firmware?

 

[ohmygodimsohigh]

My imperfect beta unit has weaseled its way into my daily rotation with Herbie and the Volcano these days. Low temp hits are amazing, and extracts are divine. I'm dialing in my high temp hits and this is where I think the final design tweaks will be noticed. A little more tweaking of the battery and algorithms and it will probably be done and darn near perfect.

It didn't take much use to forget about any complaints I might have had in the beginning about the control scheme, size or weight. Those issues are a thing of the past for me. It fits in my pocket and balances the weight well when I hold it. It's a little heavy in my pocket, but getting around is no problem. And with the crucible holder packed I'm good to go for a long time.

But the hits! I've been chasing portable on-demand hits like this for years, so I'm excited we're finally getting there in the market. Keep your eyes on this one, guys...it's already one of my favorites and it's just gonna get better. I'm looking forward to how it functions when they resume sales.

Almost time for that yummy first hit of the day!

With the updated heatsink and the crucible dispenser, I've carried mine several times in the last couple of weeks. That new heatsink/mouthpiece really makes a difference.

 

[Baron23]

depends on your bud. I've got about 5 different strains I'm playing with right now and some of them kill it on the first hit while others wait for the second hit before releasing their goodies.

depends on your bud. I've got about 5 different strains I'm playing with right now and some of them kill it on the first hit while others wait for the second hit before releasing their goodies.

Yep, the first load I ever put into an MV-1 was Sour Tangie and it gave off visible vapor like a forest fire gives off smoke.

Do you find that sativas give off vapor faster than dense indicas. I think this is so but haven't put enough effort into it to really know.

 

[wrangler]

Because it's a convection & not conduction or a hybrid. It can take a hit or 2 to get the hot air to heat the herb sufficiently to produce vapor. The Milaana2 (& maybe the li'l bud) is the only convection vape that I currently know of the can produce strong vapor on the 1st hit if you prime it right. And being that it's convection means that it's on-demand. A conduction vape will continue to cook your herb as long as it's on & will continue to even if you turn it off until it cools down. With convection, you are only applying heat when you decide to by engaging a button.

Here's a quote from a review that @VCBud did discussioning vapor output:

Question: What was the difference to your live feed where no vapor was coming out?"

"So I'm sure anyone with a convection vape can attest to this, but generally if the stars aren't aligning then vapor production will not be optimal. Basically I had only used the vape a few times before my live stream, and not thinking I ground up a different strain for the stream than what I tested it with before.

This vape, well pure convection vapes in general, are wayyy more sensitive to things like strain and heat level than hybrid vapes. For example, the Mighty is a hybrid heating vape, and I can get loads of vapor from it at as low as 350F, which is damn near impossible with a true convection vape.

I had it on the wrong heat level when I started the stream basically. Before the stream I dialed in my temp with a different strain and it just wasn't hot enough with the new strain I loaded. I didn't realize this was the issue until the last bowl I vaped, I kept thinking I was loading it wrong or something. I also might not have waiting long enough for the vape to pre-heat before I started hitting it, I got a little impatient and started drawing before the light turned green, sometimes it takes a little while to heat up for the first draw.

Just goes to show you that most vapes are not perfect and will require some experimenting for optimal and consistent results."

I would think that with ground herb the main issue would have to be of a moisture content rather than strain issue. Moiste firewood always takes longer to start than when the same material is drier. I know that more dense wood always takes longer to start too, but when split into smaller pieces, it catches much faster. I would think herb being ground would equal out the density issue regarding creating vapor.
The only strain issue that I would think could be an issue would be resin to plant material ratio. Higher density of resin might take longer along with the possibility of certain thc trichomes from different strains possibly having a different vaporization temperature than others. If strains are the issue, then would it make sense to compile a list of strains and how they perform in the Ghost.

 

[analytika]

The Milaana2 (& maybe the li'l bud) is the only convection vape that I currently know of the can produce strong vapor on the 1st hit if you prime it right.

Milaana 1 on any day of the week.

 

[stickstones]

Probably more accurate to say different cures vape differently. Or at least some term that takes it into account

 

[Summer]

If strains are the issue, then would it make sense to compile a list of strains and how they perform in the Ghost.

This is fine if you are in a legal state & you know what you're getting strain- & quality-wise. Even with no vapor output in the MV1 you get a good head.

Milaana 1 on any day of the week.

From what I read from @AJS, the Mi2 outperforms the Mi1.

 

[wrangler]

Probably more accurate to say different cures vape differently. Or at least some term that takes it into account

Definitely a full cure!

Summer: I bought mine a couple weeks ago and it is already outdated? I resent tHe crap out of that, what is this, Microsoft?

 

[Summer]

What's out-dated?

 

[wrangler]

What's out-dated?

My brand new mv1 with oval stem?

 

[Summer]

I got the latest mp assembly a couple of weeks ago with my replacement unit & I it has as oval stem. I think is was @SirCrackHill who said he got a round stem??? As far as I know, they are all oval. When they come out with the all-in-one mp assembly down the road I don't know if that one will have an oval or round stem.

 

[analytika]

From what I read from @AJS, the Mi2 outperforms the Mi1.

The Mi2 restricts peak airflow and adds a carb to restrict it even further. Not everyone considers that as enhsncing performance. It's more a change in concept.

 

[Summer]

*I just has a sesh tonight & I gotta tell you guys, I'm in awe of the MV-1!

The Mi2 restricts peak airflow and adds a carb to restrict it even further. Not everyone considers that as enhsncing performance. It's more a change in concept.

This is OT, but I'll you'll give you 1 final reply. From the very early on, sparse comments it seems that the increased restriction is being found to be beneficial in its ability to provide better performance (tweaking) in attaining the desired result, i.e. a quality, vapor-laden hit. Just take a look at @AJS' vids on the thread.

Be aware that I have no dog in this fight as this handheld style of wooden vape doesn't appeal to me. I just like following the these threads for the internal workings.