Discontinued Ghost MV1

[m0sh]

Several days ago I reached out to Patrick, aka ghostvapeofficial, & asked if I could do the android beta. Affirmative reply. 2 days ago. And he went on to write,

"First stage tests on iOS are going very well and the second version of the firmware is being released early next week. We are planning to commence testing on Android around the end of next week but it's difficult to be precise with software and coding."

So everything's happening in due course. Hope I elevated a few spirits.

Unreal, just unreal.
I don't understand why this vape was released before an app was ready....I fear that Android never exists...until now...

First stages..............this is really BS.

Disclaimer : I am a QA engineer.

 

[thx1138]

@m0sh I agree 100 percent

I am happy now that I know I didn't get an early release, maybe an MV2? I arrived at this conclusion by reading this blog and (maybe) pushing for answers; pushing well past the moments where a poster related to processed meat was unhappy, but I got my answers, and others got them too. I still want the (updated) vape.

So many other vape companies show up with a vape thats ready to go. I have followed Bud for along time, and respect his work. I am surprised that a guy with this much experience around the industry had this kind of roll out.

 

[Summer]

@m0sh
I am surprised that a guy with this much experience around the industry had this kind of roll out.

It's not @VCBud's company, he's not part of management. The rollout is placed squarely on the execs at GV.

And, yes, I think the MV2 is gonna be perfect. I'm already in.

 

[DirtyD]

Lmao good show!
@WakeAndVape

Now if I had ice T come at me with a subpoena if be a little worried.

I wonder if this was the legal action they were contacting

Unsweet T.

 

[KeroZen]

But why do you guys expect @VCBud to be any different than the many FC reviewers who participated in product alpha and beta testing phases? Just because he's semi famous in our microcosm and has more public exposure?

I mean, I'm not alone here but I personally did a a lot of early testing and consulting with various manufacturers over the time, offering my engineering experience. I was able to give them my feedback, many times the manufacturers took the chance to integrate the requested changes in their product before going into production... but most often than not, they just told that "ok it's a good idea but it's too late, we'll see for a later revision or for version 2". Sometimes they also just dismissed the remarks completely (and a few times they went right into a wall, ex: FlowerMate 8 or Elo for instance)

@VCBud is not the designer of this product, he was just consulted at a very late stage where basically almost everything was settled. For sure he was able to give his opinion, share his ideas about improvements and what not, but he is in no way responsible for everything they might have done wrong. The vape was already in pre-production, all tooling and molds were already done, the extent of his implication could only be minimal at best. For instance it was too late to switch from silicone to something else in the design, etc.

The only difference is that he's doing reviews for a living, but that's completely irrelevant here. If he's able to do it, then good for him. He never hid this fact and that doesn't change anything. The devices he tested were obviously working fine, if they screwed up afterwards or if they have QC issues it's absolutely not his fault.

 

[thx1138]

It's not @VCBud's company, he's not part of management. The rollout is placed squarely on the execs at GV.

And, yes, I think the MV2 is gonna be perfect. I'm already in.

see! enlightened again!

thanks @Summer

wow, I was under the impression he was in on this more, yeah my expectations were high because of his fame in our microcosm; theres a wealth of information in your reply kz
I've been looking for that holy grail vape, and I guess I am a sucker for marketing too - so all told I had myself going a bit there
thank you for the input @KeroZen

 

[Mr Mellish]

Who’s your favourite Memphis guy?

Memphis guy? Are you somehow unfamiliar with the single greatest cultural contribution that England has made to the world? Beatles? Dickens? Stonehenge? Chicken Vindaloo? No fucking way, my friend (ok, vindaloo is close):

My favorite? In a pinch, I believe I would have to settle on the Firewood. Best flavor. Fast. Very portable and discrete. Decent battery life. Good price. Good effects.

Having said that, the MV1 and the GH are very close and I use them all regularly.

Price: Firewood, GH, MV1

Ease of use: Firewood, GH, MV1

Flavor: Firewood, MV1, GH

Speed: GH, Firewood, MV1

Ease of loading: Firewood, GH, MV1

Smell aura: MV1, GH, Firewood

Mostly likely to use as a wood burner: GH

Most likely to stun an intruder if you aren't close enough to burn their flesh and must resort to throwing: MV1

It looks like the MV1 is at the bottom of the list but I hold all three in very high regard. If circumstance allows, I will actually reach for the MV1 first right now.

 

[LabPong]

But why do you guys expect @VCBud to be any different than the many FC reviewers who participated in product alpha and beta testing phases? Just because he's semi famous in our microcosm and has more public exposure?

I mean, I'm not alone here but I personally did a a lot of early testing and consulting with various manufacturers over the time, offering my engineering experience. I was able to give them my feedback, many times the manufacturers took the chance to integrate the requested changes in their product before going into production... but most often than not, they just told that "ok it's a good idea but it's too late, we'll see for a later revision of for version 2". Sometimes they also just dismissed the remarks completely (and a few times they went right into a wall, ex: FlowerMate 8 or Elo for instance)

@VCBud is not the designer of this product, he was just consulted at a very late stage where basically almost everything was settled. For sure he was able to give his opinion, share his ideas about improvements and what not, but he is in no way responsible for everything they might have done wrong. The vape was already in pre-production, all tooling and molds were already done, the extent of his implication could only be minimal at best. For instance it was too late to switch from silicone to something else in the design, etc.

The only difference is that he's doing reviews for a living, but that's completely irrelevant here. If he's able to do it, then good for him. He never hide this fact and that doesn't change anything. The devices he tested were obviously working fine, if they screwed up afterwards or if they have QC issues it's absolutely not his fault.

Thanks KeroZen for the long typing I did not have to do...haaa This is all common knowledge if you at all read or follow the info on VL forum. But I understand it is not easy with all the huge amount of posts that are not curated well in a normal chat forum template.

 

[Dazza78]

Memphis guy? Are you somehow unfamiliar with the single greatest cultural contribution that England has made to the world? Beatles? Dickens? Stonehenge? Chicken Vindaloo? No fucking way, my friend (ok, vindaloo is close):

My favorite? In a pinch, I believe I would have to settle on the Firewood. Best flavor. Fast. Very portable and discrete. Decent battery life. Good price. Good effects.

Having said that, the MV1 and the GH are very close and I use them all regularly.

Price: Firewood, GH, MV1

Ease of use: Firewood, GH, MV1

Flavor: Firewood, MV1, GH

Speed: GH, Firewood, MV1

Ease of loading: Firewood, GH, MV1

Smell aura: MV1, GH, Firewood

Mostly likely to use as a wood burner: GH

Most likely to stun an intruder if you aren't close enough to burn their flesh and must resort to throwing: MV1

It looks like the MV1 is at the bottom of the list but I hold all three in very high regard. If circumstance allows, I will actually reach for the MV1 first right now.

Um er I actually meant Memphis wrestling from back in the day lol

 

[Summer]

Most likely to stun an intruder if you aren't close enough to burn their flesh and must resort to throwing: MV1

Burn the sucker with the GH & then bludgeon him with the MV1


You are very funny:

My hope is that the software offers a way to back off on the Pink Floyd light show this thing produces while active.

The reason @Dazza78 asked who’s your favourite Memphis guy is, is because in a previous post you said the following:

I'm not prepared to call it the best vape ever but it's really fucking solid. It has quickly become my nightly driver. Not sure if it will keep that position, now that my FW4 is back but it is wrasslin' Mephis style for the crown.

I thought you were referring to wrestling in Memphis for the lightweight or heavyweight championship. What the heck does "wrassling' Mephis style for the crown" even mean?

 

[LabPong]

Unreal, just unreal.
I don't understand why this vape was released before an app was ready....I fear that Android never exists...until now...

First stages..............this is really BS.

Disclaimer : I am a QA engineer.

This is sort of like too many cell phones and electronic devices today......look at google home.....and all the unstable phones that get release before software is ready or even complete. They function.....but at what level of possible design and build abilities that are expected.

Also understand, the vape was altered just at the time of release. The software was originally locking out a couple settings because the app was not ready. So....Ghost tried to do better and program these 2 upper heat settings so they could be used, though the settings could not be altered again until the app was usable......it glitched many (we are unsure of how many) or most all of the vapes so the heating of all settings seems to be well hotter than should. Some report no issues but it is not verified there units are not effected in some way regardless.

So, Ghost messed up by doing this in that it they did not or could not see the effect after they did this....for what ever reason QC didn't happen on all the vapes they sent out. This is also why they have suspended sales until this is sorted out.

They would not have most of the bad press with problems if this one thing did not happen. Because the heating cycles are off....it creates several problems....

Now we see they they are struggling some to get the app finished up to the point of fixing the issue with the unlocking problem and having the app in the stores. So this is where we are at....waiting for programmers and that is not something you can set your stop watch on for a finished or releasable piece of code. So we wait......that's all.....it is what it is....and I will be patient as even with the vape sort of straight-jacketed right now...it still incredibly impressive.

 

[Mr Mellish]

Um er I actually meant Memphis wrestling from back in the day lol

The reason @Dazza78 asked who’s your favourite Memphis guy is, is because in a previous post you said the following:


I thought you were referring to wrestling in Memphis for the lightweight or heavyweight championship. What the heck does "wrassling' Mephis style for the crown" even mean?

Doh! Forgot I typed that. Thanks, @Dazza78 and @Summer. What a moron...

I don't actually remember what the hell the wrasslin' quote refers to. It's one of those random quotes (quite possibly a misquote at this point) that bounces around in my pea brain.

 

[LabPong]

I don't actually remember what the hell the wrasslin' quote refers to. It's one of those random quotes (quite possibly a misquote at this point) that bounces around in my pea brain.

Superfly Snuka FTW

 

[elykpeace]

Unsweet T.

Hahaha I like that!

 

[pakalolo]

(if the entirety of ones post history is on one single vape, then that poster is a fanboy)

This might be your definition, but it's definitely not the definition we use at FC. Calling other members "fanboys" has often resulted in warning points, and if we used that definition then we'd have handed out a fuckuvalot more warnings. In context, you are walking on really thin ice with that comment.

 

[Vaporcussion]

A really good way to hide valuable information is to surround it with fluff. I am uncertain as to the reason for the riddles and jokes in this thread other than to force others with concerns out of the zeitgeist.

Wow, @OldNewbie, you are so off base here. After so much infighting, negativity, and personal attacks on fellow members (not to mention VC), I posted "Until the app gets released, we should just tell jokes here".

The first joke post came after an awful two page fight. The thread needed some levity. My second joke post came after yet, another fight. And yet, you're accusing me of trying to hide valuable information? Like what? Did you read the whole thread (before the arguments were removed?) Did you read the prerelease thread? It was just horrible.

In other words, there's really nothing more to say at this point. We're in a waiting mode, we all need to just chill.
But yet, people are still fighting over the same issues.

One of the things I always loved about FC, was that it didn't turn into a fight every two seconds like Facebook. It's only this thread where I see it. It speaks volumes that you are attacking the 2 or 3 people that are trying to inject a little love into a very dark thread....

@Summer No offense taken!

 

[Stormsend]

Decided on taking Bud on his buyback guarantee. I had high hopes for it and it is a good vape, just not the mighty killer I thought it would be. What's the best way to get in contact with bud?

 

[thx1138]

This might be your definition, but it's definitely not the definition we use at FC. Calling other members "fanboys" has often resulted in warning points, and if we used that definition then we'd have handed out a fuckuvalot more warnings. In context, you are walking on really thin ice with that comment.

I didn't call anyone a fanboy. I mentioned my def. of one. If thats too much for here, then thats too much for me. Thanks for being so rude and vulgar about it!

seems your showing up awful late in the "party" here just to bring this back up after the dust settles, trying to keep the heat up I suppose

yeah this thread went heywire pages ago, I participated, mostly due to being called out for trying to find out whats up, just like one of the last posters who comes here to find a contact for Bud - you see, theres no contact anywhere but here about this vape for most of us, and thats why we were here - to get info not harassment for not owning the vape, etc.
I got what I was after, despite the drama.

 

[Bologna]

I arrived at this conclusion by reading this blog and (maybe) pushing for answers; pushing well past the moments where a poster related to processed meat was unhappy, but I got my answers, and others got them too.

Cool. As long as you got what you wanted, man, I’m happy for you.

 

[Tranquility]

Wow, @OldNewbie, you are so off base here. After so much infighting, negativity, and personal attacks on fellow members (not to mention VC), I posted "Until the app gets released, we should just tell jokes here".

The first joke post came after an awful two page fight. The thread needed some levity. My second joke post came after yet, another fight. And yet, you're accusing me of trying to hide valuable information? Like what? Did you read the whole thread (before the arguments were removed?) Did you read the prerelease thread? It was just horrible.

In other words, there's really nothing more to say at this point. We're in a waiting mode, we all need to just chill.
But yet, people are still fighting over the same issues.

One of the things I always loved about FC, was that it didn't turn into a fight every two seconds like Facebook. It's only this thread where I see it. It speaks volumes that you are attacking the 2 or 3 people that are trying to inject a little love into a very dark thread....

@Summer No offense taken!

It is your opinion there is "really nothing more to say at this point". I merely pointed out the fact that adding jokes, even though your stated reason is simply levity, obscures others who have something more to say at this point.

 

[Bologna]

It is your opinion there is "really nothing more to say at this point". I merely pointed out the fact that adding jokes, even though your stated reason is simply levity, obscures others who have something more to say at this point.

More to “say” or repeat... ad nauseam?

I’m all for the “say” part... psyched!

Let’s hear it!

 

[pakalolo]

While we don't have a specific rule about discussing the forum instead of the topic, there's a line to be drawn. Please stick to the topic. Future comments about this thread or about another member will be removed. Thanks for your cooperation.

 

[elykpeace]

Hope everyone's having a happy Monday

 

[jay87]

I'll give you my 100% honest early experiences with the MV1 to talk about:


So when I first got my MV1 the 2 day free shipping was great and the packaging was also top notch so kudos to Ghost for that.

One of the first things I noticed about the MV1 was that it was super heavy but seemed well put together. It fits well in the hand but it's definitely not perfectly balanced as it want to lean forward when set upright.

When I opened it up the silicone smelled exactly like new shoe smell and you could taste it when you took a draw with an empty crucible in the chamber. The smell has since subsided but that was a bit of a turnoff.

I also got offgassing when I tested the unit before using it. I did the dark room + flashlight method and upon extensive heating the coil seemed to off gas and it smelled similar to well.. a burning coil. Since then I haven't noticed any off gassing so I would highly suggest doing a burnoff on concentrate mode when anyone first receives their unit.

I had some issues with the crucible at first which did get a bit better with time, it's just awkward but there are a few design solutions that Ghost did that makes it a bit easier.
They did their best but loading the crucible with a free floating lid into the metal arm this way is just a fundamentally flawed approach, it just doesn't feel quite right getting the crucible in and out.

I loaded it up the first time and got great vapor production on medium without an issue and I seem to get ~4 good draws per crucible without stirring.

My ABV generally is brown with some dark bits in the middle and greener on the outside. I think a setting right in between high and medium would be perfect for me as I feel like I get charring on the high heat setting and the medium setting isn't quite strong enough.

I really do not like the sound of the heater, it's loud to me. It won't stop me from using the MV1 entirely but the heater noise is definitely a factor and is something I wish wasn't there.

The crucible and the metal part on the outside of the MV1 can become very hot when under heavy use. This is an issue for me as it can be difficult to reload immediately after finishing a crucible because it's just too hot.

The MV1 is quite powerful but I find flavor to be lacking little a bit and repacking it (which is often a necessity for me) is a hassle.


Tip: If you stick the pick tool that Ghost gives you into the crucible holes you can turn the crucible upside down and blow on it making it much easier to clear the spent crucible.



As I got better at the MV1 I've found that it is very good, but I still find myself drifting back towards my vapcap purely because of the convenience factor.

The MV1 is super efficient and you definitely get great effects from such a small amount of herb; the tradeoff being that it's a bit difficult to reload which many may need to do because the crucibles really are small.

As for concentrates the MV1 is going to be my new go to. It delivers big convection concentrate vapor and the reloading isn't really an issue. Under heavy use I did run into overheating but it's not super common.

The battery life of the MV1 is also very good, hasn't been an issue at all so far.



As others have mentioned it's possible that this app update could be a major help, but I am also skeptical about how it'll solve the uneven ABV that occurs even on medium.

So as of right now the MV1 is very good, but it's not quite as good as I was hoping for in terms of flavor and even heating. The MV1 might just end up filling the same niche that my Firefly 2 did but I'm still exploring it especially with concentrates.

 

[Summer]

Decided on taking Bud on his buyback guarantee. I had high hopes for it and it is a good vape, just not the mighty killer I thought it would be. What's the best way to get in contact with bud?

pm him @VCBud or message him through his Vapelife forum.