Ghost MV-1 Speculation and Shipping Thread
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GreenHopper
20 going on 60
frank grimes
Well-Known Member
Got a first world problem here.
I need to cure my months long VAS and my front runners were the MV1 and the haze square while S&B 2 would be right up there if it should materialize.
I was really excited about the mv1 in May and I thought that was the one simply by process of elimination. S&B 2 is all hearsay and at the time, haze square looked like it would never come out. Mv1 was supposed to come out in July but with all the delays, it looks like haze square has covered some ground during that time. It looks like both will come out sometime during the fall.
Decision time.
Mv1 looks like a powerful sexy beast but I got my reservations about it. I won't go into detail about my skepticism because it seems like everyone is on edge these days (people really need to chill...with some weed perhaps?)
Haze square looks steady and reliable but lacks that sexy allure that the mv1 has. I've never used haze products before but it seems like they have a solid reputation and I heard good things from other owners. Anyone know if the older haze vapes hit like a champ?
What to do?
Go with the hot girl AKA ghost MV1 that's giving me the tingles in the scrotum? Or go with the good girl who'll be home every night to cook me dinner?
Or wait for S&B to spank the competition?
I can't wait any longer than the end of 2017 to cure this nasty case of VAS blue balls.
I need to cure my months long VAS and my front runners were the MV1 and the haze square while S&B 2 would be right up there if it should materialize.
I was really excited about the mv1 in May and I thought that was the one simply by process of elimination. S&B 2 is all hearsay and at the time, haze square looked like it would never come out. Mv1 was supposed to come out in July but with all the delays, it looks like haze square has covered some ground during that time. It looks like both will come out sometime during the fall.
Decision time.
Mv1 looks like a powerful sexy beast but I got my reservations about it. I won't go into detail about my skepticism because it seems like everyone is on edge these days (people really need to chill...with some weed perhaps?)
Haze square looks steady and reliable but lacks that sexy allure that the mv1 has. I've never used haze products before but it seems like they have a solid reputation and I heard good things from other owners. Anyone know if the older haze vapes hit like a champ?
What to do?
Go with the hot girl AKA ghost MV1 that's giving me the tingles in the scrotum? Or go with the good girl who'll be home every night to cook me dinner?
Or wait for S&B to spank the competition?
I can't wait any longer than the end of 2017 to cure this nasty case of VAS blue balls.
bryancross
Member
Yes I realize no one on this message board hasn't even touched one, which is weird when you re-read what you've said.
"will cause conduction. Not may. Not if. And not maybe."
But yes, you can read the thread title so you know what i've come here to see. (weird question though) I'm here waiting for someone with actual experience with the vaporizer the thread is titled after, or details on when that might be.
I think i'm here for what 99% of the rest of the people are here for, i'm certainly not here to spread misinformation about things i've never used.
Does that mean I think it isn't without it's flaws? No. I'm not a representative of ghost, i'm also not under the impression that I know how something performs before even using it. Maybe it does have a degree of conduction, but making claims about you're positive about just makes you sound that much less believable. I get that you're a "researcher" vapes and "have vaporizer designs" but it doesn't make you an authority at all.
Once again I'm forced to step in and remind everyone that we do not allow insults or name calling on FC. I just handed out one warning point and I'll hand out more if this tit for tat personal BS continues.
Please keep the discussion about the vaporizer, and not each other's agendas. If you feel a post breaks the rules, please report it and do not address it in the thread.
Thank you.
Please keep the discussion about the vaporizer, and not each other's agendas. If you feel a post breaks the rules, please report it and do not address it in the thread.
Well said, SP. If you have a beef with someone, take it to PMs.
Thank you.
GreenHopper
20 going on 60
Hmmm good questions.
Been following both the MV1 and the Square.
Liking the innovative ideas that are coming out.
My issue with the square is the built in battery but I get the form factor kinda requires it.
Being able to replace the heating element is an interesting feature.
I know Haze 3 owners have been very happy with their purchase and are supportive of both the vape and the company.
The MV1 might offer better vapor cooling than the square but until both are out its going to be impossible to compare them.
Hopefully you won't have to wait too much longer to find out if both companies release their vapes soon.
newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
I tell you, my biggest issue with the MV1 is the loading. I just can't see how I'd be able to load this on the go. And I don't see how I'd be able to load it after using it for a session. With my Mighty, I load on the go using their included tool, or the capsules. And I can load multiple times without issue. So that's what I'm nervous about with the MV1. Also, the fact that there are delays. They shouldn't announce something until they are definitive. Just shows bad planning in my opinion. Anyway, looking forward to your guys reviews.
skyvaper
Well-Known Member
I imagine that loading would depend on how you carry your material but I'm curious as to how you load a vape differently when you are out and about than at home? I load my vapes all the same whether I'm home or out and about. Are you possibly speaking to how to load right after a session where the crucible is hot?
newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
Ok let's say I'm somewhere outside where i have no place to put anything down. With the mighty, I unscrew the top, unscrew the bottom of the filling tool, and connect both pieces together. Don't lose any material. It's amazing. Not sure how I would accomplish this with the MV1. My grasshopper is also easy to load on the go.
Also, yes, the crucible being hot is another concern of mine
darbarikanada
Well-Known Member
vape critic said loading was a challenge at first, but he got better at it. if you look at his ratings table, 'ease of use' is definitely below the mighty. in a recent post he said units will ship with multiple crucibles; maybe people will figure out a way to pre-load crucibles so the lid stays on. it's premature to say what that would be (bend the lid 'ears' a tiny bit so they grip the crucible? little rubber bands? oval-profile pez dispensers?), but I'm sure people will come up with fixes.
or not. maybe this will be the main downside of this vape. vape critic's video kind of suggests as much. if the vape is as good as he thinks it is, I don't doubt that a lot of people will just make their peace with this downside - and for some it'll be a deal-breaker.
darbarikanada
Well-Known Member
the crucible might be too hot to do this for a few minutes. assuming you don't mind waiting for it to cool down, it still looks awkward to put in the crucible without spilling (and if it's your 2nd or 3rd crucible, that could influence matters...). vape critic says he got used to it, so maybe what looks awkward isn't a big deal. as people start using this, they'll be reporting back on the learning curve - we'll see if they agree with bud.
skyvaper
Well-Known Member
I'm curious how long it will take it to cool as well. He mentioned a few seconds blowing the crucible and It's ready to be picked up but from what I took away well under a minute.
darbarikanada
Well-Known Member
I kind of enjoy problem solving, so fwiw: if you could in fact bend the ears of the lid so it grips the crucible, and if you have pre-loaded crucibles (with bent lid ears), and you don't want to wait or blow on the hot crucible, you could go the vapcap route and use a magnet to remove the spent crucible.
Alumina ceramic has very good heat retention, even better than titanium. Once hot it cools slowly.
That could be a bit of an issue. Certainly would be for me.
I'd have to imagine that if you took a draw with the heater off it would help to cool the crucibles rather quickly.
To give it the benefit of the doubt I'll add that some extra conduction may not be the worst thing for performance.
The biggest issue is the lid of the crucible.
The fact that the lid is loose prevents you from having any freedom of movement. Basically you'll need a table to set stuff on to reload this vape comfortably.
You'll have to hold 1. MV1 2. crucible 3. crucible lid 4. material and at the same time you'll need to use both hands to put the crucible back into the vaporizer once it's reloaded.
If you don't have a table to set stuff on it'll amount to: open vape chamber, take out crucible, put lid and vape in pocket, take out material, load crucible, put material in pocket, take out crucible lid, put the lid on the crucible and pinch it together, take out vape, then finally put the reloaded crucible back into the vape to return to your regularly scheduled programming.
This is definitely gonna be a better solo use vaporizer as reloading will be a hassle and because the crucibles are relatively small you will be reloading pretty much every rotation in groups.
To give it the benefit of the doubt I'll add that some extra conduction may not be the worst thing for performance.
The biggest issue is the lid of the crucible.
The fact that the lid is loose prevents you from having any freedom of movement. Basically you'll need a table to set stuff on to reload this vape comfortably.
You'll have to hold 1. MV1 2. crucible 3. crucible lid 4. material and at the same time you'll need to use both hands to put the crucible back into the vaporizer once it's reloaded.
If you don't have a table to set stuff on it'll amount to: open vape chamber, take out crucible, put lid and vape in pocket, take out material, load crucible, put material in pocket, take out crucible lid, put the lid on the crucible and pinch it together, take out vape, then finally put the reloaded crucible back into the vape to return to your regularly scheduled programming.
This is definitely gonna be a better solo use vaporizer as reloading will be a hassle and because the crucibles are relatively small you will be reloading pretty much every rotation in groups.
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Long Island, NY
frank grimes
Well-Known Member
The replaceable heating element is a key feature that I like. Would much rather pay a couple of bucks for a new coil on my own than having to send it to Haze for warranty.
I'm still hoping S&B makes a move soon. I'd hate to make a decision only to have Mighty 2 come out shortly thereafter
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Hogni
Honi soit qui mal y pense
Now, that was a belly laugh, hogni! -- of course, after I googled.
Appreciate! Learning never stops, Mylady. Glad to have expanded your horizon
Good innocent girl! Are you living in the bible belt not knowing that?? Younger than 14?
Baron23
Well-Known Member
There are indeed two aspects of this vape that many people (including myself) will view as significant shortfalls or flaws. Both are observable at this point in time...that is, when we still don't have the actual vape to use.
The crucible lid will not latch on. This is big, I believe that they received feedback on this and proceeded in this direction anyway, and I think this will come back to haunt them
The single button for control and the stupid row of idiot lights for all display purposes. I suspect I will be able to get used to them and operate the vape without problem, but I don't like it and feel it was block-headed of them to adhere to some aesthetic design principle to the point that they impacted function, IMO.
The crucible lid will not latch on. This is big, I believe that they received feedback on this and proceeded in this direction anyway, and I think this will come back to haunt them
The single button for control and the stupid row of idiot lights for all display purposes. I suspect I will be able to get used to them and operate the vape without problem, but I don't like it and feel it was block-headed of them to adhere to some aesthetic design principle to the point that they impacted function, IMO.
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sickmanfraud
Well-Known Member
I have been following the discussion and in my opinion no one is addressing the "elephant in the room"
How many of us on FC have had good experiences with pre-orders? I bought into a pre-release of a convection vape that was to have 40 minutes of use between charges. In reality, 16 minutes (4 4 minute sessions). I spent $220 for a vape that can be bought new for $100 10 months later.
How many folks gave money for vapes that have not been delivered for 2+ years?
Regardless of any endorsements or not, I want to see how it's reliability is when used in various configurations.
S&B, a company that is at the foundation of vaporization had reliability issues, but with S&B there was no concern that they would not fulfill their warranty obligations.
IMO this is even riskier with a new, untested company.
How many of us on FC have had good experiences with pre-orders? I bought into a pre-release of a convection vape that was to have 40 minutes of use between charges. In reality, 16 minutes (4 4 minute sessions). I spent $220 for a vape that can be bought new for $100 10 months later.
How many folks gave money for vapes that have not been delivered for 2+ years?
Regardless of any endorsements or not, I want to see how it's reliability is when used in various configurations.
S&B, a company that is at the foundation of vaporization had reliability issues, but with S&B there was no concern that they would not fulfill their warranty obligations.
IMO this is even riskier with a new, untested company.
I have a feeling that for those lids, all we'll need to do is press the tabs that keep it on in a little bit so they put pressure on the crucibles, and won't fall off so easily.
It wouldn't be difficult to design it where it snapped on, but this seems like an alternative for the time being.
Edit: in fact, I can bet if you push those tabs in ever so slightly, and then take a Dremel and sand away little indentations where the tabs rest, that'll give it the "snap on" lid we want. Maybe have 1 tab flare out for ease of removal.
Edit 2: I'm buying extra crucibles, so I'll test it, and if successful, make a video showing how to do it and report here.
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