FROLIC by Limelight Herb

mcscruffy

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So bummed start of EU shipping is a week away :popcorn:
"The Frolic hits like the Tinymight 2 or the Tafee Bowle 2. This vape has massive power and excellent flavor."

Me likey!

You can actually hear the "morse code" sound at the 13 minute mark of thay video if anyone is curious what @Lozo was talking about (thanks for getting your early review out too!).

Being a convection vape there's nothing but improvement to performance as you refine the method and understand the amount of draw necessary to optimize so hearing initial impressions like this are incredibly promising!
 

dimmusp

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Will we have a bowl reducer or something in future? To do half bowls
Dejan had said the following. I'm curious how it would work in practice.

As for the oven not being completely filled with herb. There are 2 steps for the mesh disks in the cooling unit, one is lower and one is higher and you can position the CU screen in either one. The lower position is meant to be used when the device is turned upside down and pulled hard, so the herb stays tucked into the oven utilizing maximum performance from conduction. (You will receive the CU by default with a disk in both positions, one coarse and another one fine, but you can remove one, switch them or play around how you want to. Having little herb in the oven and having the device in the upside down position may result in the herb moving out of the bottom of the oven, but since the quantity is small and it has nowhere to go, it will get obliterated regardless of conduction being less involved in the process...

(https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/frolic-by-limelight-herb.56172/post-1857727)
 

Sativapo

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Wow it looked smaller than the crafty that I considered a bit too bulky for me butbits same size. Good thing if it's potent as recorded though. Someone will have to tryba half biwl to tell us how dark it can get on high temps.
 
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SolidAirrr

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Dejan had said the following:

"The lower position is meant to be used when the device is turned upside down and pulled hard, so the herb stays tucked into the oven utilizing maximum performance from conduction."

(https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/frolic-by-limelight-herb.56172/post-1857727)

I guess in Troy's vid we can see the lower positioned screen in use (or possibly both, with the upper not visible).
I guess that might be enough to work well, and doesn't create the need for any bowl reducer which might be rather annoying, I guess. However, I'm excited to read people's reports on how the Frolic performs with small loads.

Edit: btw, now it seems appropriate to move this thread to the regular portable section, right @Grass Yes ?
 
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fog0nthetyne

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Just done a burn off to clean it and I hear the morse code too but I’m not really concerned by that… what I will say is I turned it on in session mode and I can’t believe how quickly it hit 220°… like 5 seconds!

Obviously when I test it I want to run a full bowl through it first but I’ll do a half bowl after for those who are curious, at 220° and will try and post pics of the abv colour
 

NightMoonWolf

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Just done a burn off to clean it and I hear the morse code too but I’m not really concerned by that… what I will say is I turned it on in session mode and I can’t believe how quickly it hit 220°… like 5 seconds!

Obviously when I test it I want to run a full bowl through it first but I’ll do a half bowl after for those who are curious, at 220° and will try and post pics of the abv colour
The morse code people are talking about, is that just the heating coil resonating from the voltage passing through it?
 
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Petetbay

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Got my invoice notice and was a little confused at the total which turns out to be in Bulgarian currency, but is the correct discounted price in USD or CDN. In Canada so I guess I get supplied by the US distributor, hope that works out ok.
 
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fog0nthetyne

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If you can do it for science I'd be more interested in lower temps, let's say around 180ish...
I’ll start one off at 180 in a bit but I simply cannot promise I’ll finish on 180 because I live north of 200° almost all of the time haha

I’ve just had my first bowl through it - started at 200 and bumped up to 220 for the last 2 minutes on the clock. Sorry I did not get abv pictures on this bowl but it was lovely and dark and even and I have no complaints with it - will try and remember to take a photo of next one

Basically it’s took my face clean off - unreal. I don’t have a Venty to compare it with but the airflow is crazy compared to anything else I’ve got. Again, 5 second heat up and I was dubious I’d see any vapour when I took the first toke but I was proven wrong. Obviously subsequent tokes yielded thicker clouds but yeah, the heater is fast.

Vapour quality is great, flavour came through but I’ll need to test at lower temps before I can really judge flavour.

It does get warm in the hand but that’s not unexpected at 220… the metal disc on top of the cooling unit gets hottest and I did find the metal plate on the base where the screen is got a bit warm too, but nothing chaos and you don’t touch either of these for extended periods while using it anyway. Cooling unit was quite warm at the end, might leave it for 30 seconds before removing.

I used a lower strength flower for this bowl because I knew I had promised to come here and write stuff but this thing has obviously unlocked something in there that my other vapes don’t, because I’m decked out here but I’ll come back later
 

Dejan LimelightHerb

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The morse code people are talking about, is that just the heating coil resonating from the voltage passing through it?
PWM, yes. But in Troy's video, what you can here is the microphone interference due to the PWM. The heater is suspended on a single shaft partially to keep this noise down and I doubt it will be something to be concerned about to anyone, it's very subtle.

anyone who has it, if and how do the S&B capsules fit? They might be a good way to reduce dosage plus keeping it cleaner

I have started reading from page 15 on, apologies if this has already been discussed. Could not find it
While they do fit in the oven, the cooler won't fit onto the de ice with them.

The list of upcoming accessories is as follows at the moment:

1. 510 mouthpiece adapter
2. Direct oven to water attachments adapter
3. Dosing capsules
4. Smell proof bag
5. Power bank/external 21700 charger bay

Someone mentioned oven reducer, less herb will get treated properly without it but something to look into as well.

We should have these or most of these out as soon as next month.
 

fog0nthetyne

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anyone who has it, if and how do the S&B capsules fit? They might be a good way to reduce dosage plus keeping it cleaner

I have started reading from page 15 on, apologies if this has already been discussed. Could not find it
S&B caps - pic 1 is the cap in the bowl, fits like a glove but don’t get excited yet

Pic 2 is the cooling unit closed on device with a cap in the bowl and pic 3 is closed device with no cap in the bowl - as you can see, cap causes gap - I dunno if that will be a problem or not
 

TigoleBitties

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S&B caps - pic 1 is the cap in the bowl, fits like a glove but don’t get excited yet

Pic 2 is the cooling unit closed on device with a cap in the bowl and pic 3 is closed device with no cap in the bowl - as you can see, cap causes gap - I dunno if that will be a problem or not
I wonder if the AVLP gold plated caps will work as they might be shorter than the S&B. What's the diameter of the S&B caps anyone?
 
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Dejan LimelightHerb

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S&B caps - pic 1 is the cap in the bowl, fits like a glove but don’t get excited yet

Pic 2 is the cooling unit closed on device with a cap in the bowl and pic 3 is closed device with no cap in the bowl - as you can see, cap causes gap - I dunno if that will be a problem or not
Thanks for the post above!

Fits yes, works, yes, has a gap, yes, but works... It's due to the cooler being lower a bit into the oven to accommodate 2 heights for the cooler screen. So we have a 1.2mm gap now if you use those capsules. If you don't mind the gap, it will work just fine. Alternatively, you can Dremel off a big from the cooler, use the top position only and use the capsules or I can machine off a batch of coolers if someone prefers this.

But as I said, we will do our own capsules, just trying to put all the options out there so everyone is happy hopefully.
 

dimmusp

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Thanks for the post above!

Fits yes, works, yes, has a gap, yes, but works... It's due to the cooler being lower a bit into the oven to accommodate 2 heights for the cooler screen. So we have a 1.2mm gap now if you use those capsules. If you don't mind the gap, it will work just fine. Alternatively, you can Dremel off a big from the cooler, use the top position only and use the capsules or I can machine off a batch of coolers if someone prefers this.

But as I said, we will do our own capsules, just trying to put all the options out there so everyone is happy hopefully.
What material will your capsules be made of?
 

SolidAirrr

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Awesome interaction, as throughout the thread, @Dejan LimelightHerb 👍 and happy for you that these initial user feedback is as positive as it is.

One thing which seems to be missing in the accessories list could be extra CUs in general, maybe just as you don't need to modify/build them but just need to list them.
 
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S&B caps - pic 1 is the cap in the bowl, fits like a glove but don’t get excited yet

Pic 2 is the cooling unit closed on device with a cap in the bowl and pic 3 is closed device with no cap in the bowl - as you can see, cap causes gap - I dunno if that will be a problem or not
Perfect, thank you for the pics

The S&B capsules are so affordable and I reckon that most enthusiasts going for the Frolic might have had at least one S&B device before. I have at least 30 unused capsules from a 40 pack left

Do you think that the capsules could be pressed smaller to fit in there? Not pressed while being in the device, but outside? Actually, I will take one of the many extras and see if I can get 1.2mm of height reduction with careful pressuring
 
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Dejan LimelightHerb

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What material will your capsules be made of?
Ductile material has to be used for cost effectiveness. So it's either some lower series aluminum like most other capsules or stainless. Aluminum will be hard anodized probably but still working on these, will have more info in a week or so.

Awesome interaction, as throughout the thread, @Dejan LimelightHerb 👍 and happy for you that these initial user feedback is as positive as it is.

One thing which seems to be missing in the accessories list could be extra CUs in general, maybe just as you don't need to modify/build them but just need to list them.
Good point, this can be indeed added to the accessories section and there will also be a "spares" section where you will be able to purchase any individual component of the device, should it require updating.
 

Dejan LimelightHerb

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Perfect, thank you for the pics

The S&B capsules are so affordable and I reckon that most enthusiasts going for the Frolic might have had at least one S&B device before. I have at least 30 unused capsules from a 40 pack left

Do you think that the capsules could be pressed smaller to fit in there? Not pressed while being in the device, but outside? Actually, I will take one of the many extras and see if I can get 1.2mm of height reduction with careful pressuring
They can be used but the gap will remain. If people would like this cross compatibility, the best way might be for me to machine the inner part of the CU so it accommodates the said capsules and offer that as an accessory. We have good shipping options for small parts so this wouldn't come at a big expense.

Also let's wait and see what people make of the 2 step CU screen mounts, one may be sufficient so the next batch will receive such an update. I am all ears for these kinds of things
 
Do you think that the capsules could be pressed smaller to fit in there? Not pressed while being in the device, but outside? Actually, I will take one of the many extras and see if I can get 1.2mm of height reduction with careful pressuring
Here is a quick and dirty attempt, obviously looks much more jank and lost some volume. But that might fit the frolic now. I reduced about 2mm of height


So if anyone has a Frolic and would like to try how it goes with capsules, I think that could be doable at least for trying out?
 
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