snowdrop7756
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Fiberglass found in Angus Enhanced
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WeedHunter
New Member
I got my AE a week ago, now I took the top cover off to see what it has inside. As Mike said, they are now using 2 metal tubes instead of fiberglass. I was lucky, I found no traces of fiberglass wool in my AE.
spearmint
Waste Land of Reality
I love it a lot, which is why I *really* hate that this stuff popped up now.
I got in contact with Verdampftnochmal, and they offered me a free exchange to a fiberglass free variant (dec 2024 batch apparently), but I still don't think I trust YLL anymore.
If they cut corners by doing something as mind bogglingly stupid as shoving fiberglass insulation into a vaporizer, who's to say there aren't any less obvious pitfalls like dangerous plastic? They already fudged on their CE certification by not including the insulation.
I got in contact with Verdampftnochmal, and they offered me a free exchange to a fiberglass free variant (dec 2024 batch apparently), but I still don't think I trust YLL anymore.
If they cut corners by doing something as mind bogglingly stupid as shoving fiberglass insulation into a vaporizer, who's to say there aren't any less obvious pitfalls like dangerous plastic? They already fudged on their CE certification by not including the insulation.
So have I, let's see if I get the same response :-) Any other response would not sit well with me, after having spent 1.400€ with them just in 2024.
RAMMSTEIN
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2tiki
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Yll should probably do some serious damage repair to their reputation before putting out the Aerolite, or the opening sales are going to surely suffer badly for it.
How they handle the fiberglass AE outrage will likely give people an idea what to expect if there are issues with the Aerolite. I'm in the same boat as many of you. I was really looking forward to this new vape, and now I'm not sure how we can trust the company. For me, a DHV is a medical device. I'm not just vaping "for fun", and I'm not a reckless teen who doesn't worry about my health. So far I'm not seeing Yll doing anything to dispel my concerns.
How they handle the fiberglass AE outrage will likely give people an idea what to expect if there are issues with the Aerolite. I'm in the same boat as many of you. I was really looking forward to this new vape, and now I'm not sure how we can trust the company. For me, a DHV is a medical device. I'm not just vaping "for fun", and I'm not a reckless teen who doesn't worry about my health. So far I'm not seeing Yll doing anything to dispel my concerns.
I completely understand your frustration and concerns. Discovering fiberglass in the air path of a vaporizer is deeply troubling, especially when our health is at stake. Yll's lack of a clear and reassuring response exacerbates the issue, as trust is crucial in such situations. To rebuild confidence, Yll must take immediate action: provide full disclosure about affected devices and materials, commission independent third-party testing to assess health risks, implement a recall and replacement program, revise manufacturing processes to ensure safety, and communicate directly with customers. Our health is non-negotiable, and we deserve safe, reliable devices. As a community, we must demand transparency, material data sheets, and independent testing results to hold companies accountable for safety.
rwx-800
Member
If I understand correctly the new batches have the fiber under that tape. Still very concerning, this means they knew of this hazard
2tiki
Well-Known Member
I don't think I've heard anything about fiberglass being "in the air path". I believe the concern is that it was in the device at all, the concern that it could potentially get into the air path, and that they hadn't told anyone that there was any in the device.
I could be wrong, but I don't think it would be helpful if anyone accidentally start any false rumors about it being even worse than it is.
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
That's the real issue in my eyes. Fiberglass near any place you're inhaling deeply is a bad idea and the frequency with which you do this just increases any chances for potential harm over time if the insulation is compromised somehow (hopefully not).
Then there's the fact that it seems this was covered up to boot. I don't know which is worse but that's pretty terrible.
To be clear, based on the photos I've seen and the things I've read, I personally think there was a very low probability anyone got harmed. From what I've read, such fibers usually cause immediate irritation when inhaled in a quantity that would do harm but there's no excusing that they were there in the first place AND it wasn't disclosed in the list of materials.
Not cool at all. I can see why anyone would be wary of their vapes now.
Flotsam
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Correct me if i am wrong, i had thought you owned an Angus or recall you mentioning so .....
what do you plan on doing ? (assuming you got one)
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
Yeah I haven't completely decided yet. Definitely not using the Angus enhanced I have until I open it up and would also open up any new replacement before even considering using it.
Once bitten, twice shy.
seedy53
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absolute bs about fiberglass in air path and the only way to expose the (first batch) FG insulation had to be done but user doing a warranty breaking teardown. the unit IS not serviceable BY CONSUMER.
i thought this is an aerolite thread not AE.
chillAtGVC
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@TigoleBitties I just opened the one that I got from Soothing Vapours last October (same vendor as you IIRC) and it has the unrestrained fibreglass (or whatever is it) around the oven.
It does not look to me like it is in the air path, but I am not going to take it apart any more than that.
Sour Dream
Blue Dream enthusiast
They definitely knew they have revised it multiple times to try to isolate it more and kept silent and made no attempt to fix the old ones until it blew up. How many times are they gonna pull some bs
TigoleBitties
Big and Bouncy
Wow. Yeah that's pretty terrible.@TigoleBitties I just opened the one that I got from Soothing Vapours last October (same vendor as you IIRC) and it has the unrestrained fibreglass (or whatever is it) around the oven.
It does not look to me like it is in the air path, but I am not going to take it apart any more than that.
Again, I don't think the device could easily harm you but just having it there so close to where you inhale is a massive fail.
This really hurts because I loved this device too. Now that we know the company makes decisions like this it's really hard to ever trust them again.
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MTpromises
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kokolokokolokon
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kokolokokolokon
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I think it is necessary to know what it is and the effects it produces. It is good for the community.
It is good not to want fiberglass, even when it seems that the problem in the original post was opening the device and manipulating the material by the user and the fiber is out of the air path. But it's also not good to make it seem like the problem is even worse than it is (I'm not saying it's good, but it's not asbestos, for example).
It is good they will change devices, and it is good to know looks like there will be no symptoms or long-term conditions, as small amounts inhaled can be treated by the body without problem.
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Hello everyone. Wanted to share my experience with the AE so far. I picked it up two months ago, ran into fit and finish issues and promptly got a replacement. I was excited to start using the new device but it quickly turned to frustration when I noticed fumes emerging from an empty oven chamber while on max temperature. I tried getting in touch with Mike from yll a couple of times but I got no response. The site I bought the AE from took the faulty device back, cleaned it and returned it back to me claiming no issues with the device. But when I got it back I noticed it again. After bringing it to their attention, they flat out denied any responsibility despite the device being barely used and under warranty. I live in a country where it’s hard to get dry herb vaporisers so this experience has been especially frustrating to say the least. Anyway I’m not sure if the fumes have anything to do with the fibreglass controversy, but I would suggest everyone crank up their AE to max temperature for a complete heat cycle just to make sure their device isn’t doing something like this (you might want to use a flashlight over the oven chamber and make sure the background is dark for better visibility as the fumes are pretty wispy). Stay safe everyone!
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