Fast & heavy home hitter

[Osn Dosn]

Isn't the E-nano considered a Log vape?

So...?
What makes a Log vape a Log vape was the question.

 

[mmenzie]

SOME out there would consider the Solo a log vape. so if it was to be considered a log vape then wood is not the deciding factor of a log vape. other that don't consider the solo a log vape would then conclude that wood, does a log vape make

 

[lwien]

.... but then there's nearly no vape that can't be coupled somehow -

While that's true, it's also true that some vapes mate with bongs better than others.

 

[z9]

Because of the small bowl size the Nano will lend itself to being more efficient than the other desktops you mentioned, but if you load the others conservatively they will be just as efficient as any log.

I'm sure you'll be happy with the portables you mentioned but they have a lot more restriction and less power than the desktops above. The restriction just kills the fun that there is to be had with a water path.

I wouldn't put the SOLO in the same league as the NANO or HI, they hit so much harder.

I vote LSV or NANO if you can swing that where you live, HI if you can manage to acquire one

 

[arf777]

Well while that's true literally, my intention was anyway to couple it with a bong; at least sometimes - should have mentioned that, but then there's nearly no vape that can't be coupled somehow - and as you probably know that wasn't what I meant
The bong alone has no effect on how the vape works, and my needs are not fulfilled by just sucking on a bong if I want it quick and dirty.. the vape itself has got to know how to do this.

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Soo, after all it looks like it comes down to either the MiniVap - honestly mixed feelings about it, just because its rivalry with the Ascent ..and ok at least twice the $$

..or: just any 7th Floor product - if I get you right that the Buddha, Silver Surfer and LSV are basically by one company.
Did not expect that by all the VapeX etc. theads popping up.
Also I thought there would be more convection.
I do not know the market at all it seems.

And if I have to decide for one of the three 7th floor I probably get nuts by the Xhundred pages thread each one has. Sometimes the internet sucks. Not you ofc.


Oh and to top that: the E-Nano would still top any of those above?!

Oh and btw: what specifies the LOG vapes you're all talking about.. that it's made out of wood...?! Please no..

Maybe we should forget about the 2 ohs to keep it simple.

Don't know if the new Vapexhale EVO is shipping to the EU yet, prolly why it hash;t been mentioned. It kicks ass though. Same for the Herbalizer - very new and American, but worth checking. I think the VHW can go to Europe, and its awesome , but its almost all glass and breaks VERY easily.

 

[lwien]

SOME out there would consider the Solo a log vape. so if it was to be considered a log vape then wood is not the deciding factor of a log vape. other that don't consider the solo a log vape would then conclude that wood, does a log vape make

Some would consider a PAX a pen vape as well.

Kinda funny. I remember when the term "log vape" was first used to describe the Purple Days, and for some odd reason, I was kinda put off by it. I had no idea that there are some who would consider the Solo a log vape. First time I've heard that.

 

[Caligula]

E nano heats up quicker and is much smaller than the other log style vapes listed. Also exterior is made of wood and heater core is surrounded by metal and not glass. Makes it more durable and with better airflow.

 

[paytonpenn]

I like to think they are referring to the log-vape style, which is a stem and a heatport. I consider the Hammer to also be log-like even though it is not shaped like them.

I only would consider the Hammer or Solo as a log vape if they had a wooden body.

 

[Osn Dosn]

Wow. So what defines a Log vape is just this and that and nothing specific - but if the exterior (which has of course a huge effect on the technical design and construction) is wood, it's definitely a Log vape. And all Log vapes are pretty effective and have other generalized advantages.
I just lost it.

 

[Seren]

• I'm looking for something that can be used quite fast if needed - meaning the overall time from getting it started to having extracted and absorbed all the ingredients......
• I'm also looking for something that creates big and heavy clouds, out of small amounts too.......
• I already decided for the E-Nano, but as I'm living in the EU I could get in trouble with it at the customs due to it's lack of a CE certification.......Any advice on that or further recommendation would be highly appreciated :*

Hi Osn Dosn, as a proud new owner of the beautiful E-Nano - I would say it meets all of your criteria. It's highly efficient & effective - & once heated up you can extract herb really quickly if that's your preference. I must say, I absolutely love mine! I also live in the EU - the UK to be exact - and had no problems with customs, I just coughed up the usual VAT fee and that was that.

The Solo is also superb, & given that you can run it off a power adapter it kind of meets your home vape requirement. Again its an efficient and effective cloud maker - but does take a little longer for full extraction. The added bonus of the Solo of course though is that it's portable - so it's great for taking on trips, into the garden or around friends houses.

I think either would probably suit your needs in terms of function - they're both really versatile - both can be used with water or dry.

Good luck in making your decision.

 

[Caligula]

Let me blow your mind even more!

• Log - A vaporizer form factor made from wood, derived from the Eterra.

 

[Magic9]

An Underdog (a log vape for sure) through glass. Love it. Meets your criteria. I also want to try an LSV too for some weird reason.

I found I used a little much in th DBV. Especially compared to a log.

 

[pigfoot]

How about the Vapolution 2.0?

 

[kahlilhc]

Disagree. A Solo can get you as MEDICATED as a quality table top, but its going to take a lot longer to get you there. A load may take 5-10+ minutes to vape in a Solo where as I can crush the same amount in my E-Nano in a few rips.

Agree To Disagree, if heating while preparing bowl, will be ready in 2min max (preheat included), and can be "crushed" in under a min if necessary. But then again I have little experience with the bank-breaking tabletops, just the humble Q.

 

[RUDE BOY]

How about the Vapolution 2.0?

I second the Vapolution, Great for pulling off a few Fast big hits.

 

[llamaman001]

If your not opposed to using a lighter I would suggest the Lotus. Thats only IF you cant get a user here to buy an e-nano and then ship it properly to you. You can get INSANE clouds with the dry part of the water adapter. Might be something worth looking into and its pretty cheap at that.

 

[420time]

im thinkin bout getting the either the e-nano or the Hi from someone here. perfect one hitter quitter vaporizer.

 

[clouded vision]

If you were already sold on the e-nano but are concerned that it isn't CE certified, you should definitely look at the UD or HI (long waiting list but there's one in the classifieds now). Both of these are 12v units with a very common sized jack so it would be very easy to find your own CE power supply. These would be my personal choice with the LSV being a close second. Any of these would be great to use regularly with a bong but can still provide great dry hits.

@Tweak , Alan who makes the toasty top and heat island has installed a metal HC on a LSV
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-hi.4693/page-145#post-412510

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Agree To Disagree, if heating while preparing bowl, will be ready in 2min max (preheat included), and can be "crushed" in under a min if necessary. But then again I have little experience with the bank-breaking tabletops, just the humble Q.

I have never seen anyone come anywhere close to being able to smash through a solo bowl in 1 minute...
Even hitting it through water (allowing bigger hits), starting at 7 (to finish it faster), using a pvhes, and chain hitting it, I don't think I've finished a stem in under 6 minutes (not counting heat up)

The solo is a great unit, and if the op had specified all the same criteria but wanted a portable, I'd totally recommend the solo.

I'll throw in another recommendation for a 7th floor product.
They may not have much technology behind them, but they are brilliant at what they do.
The LSV is BRILLIANT when paired with a bong, heats up within 2 minutes (5max), and can cache a bowl in 2 or 3 hits if you've got the lungs to handle the vapor...

IMO the cloud/cloud EVO is the best vape I've used for pairing with a bong, can cache a load in 1 massive hit if you want, and is really quite easy to use.
It's not exactly available in non-US voltages right now, but should be launching very soon.

Log vapes are also great, but I always find myself going for the LSV or cloud instead of my UD, hot pod, or WychWood...

 

[Caligula]

Agree To Disagree, if heating while preparing bowl, will be ready in 2min max (preheat included), and can be "crushed" in under a min if necessary. But then again I have little experience with the bank-breaking tabletops, just the humble Q.

I too, am going to have to call shenanigans on that. I just checked a video I had done to demonstrate milking my bubbler on level 7 with the Solo. After the unit was heated and the gong heat soaked for a minute or so, it still took 3+ minutes to get decently extracted ABV. I can accomplish this with the nano in 2 pulls (under a minute if I try, I'm sure) through the same glass.

Also I wouldnt consider the Nano bank breaking. But that can he a relative term I suppose?

 

[mmenzie]

I always find myself going for the LSV or cloud instead of my UD, hot pod, or WychWood...

not to go off topic... you were one of the lucky ones to get a hot pod... nice!!! i always thought it had such a cool look.

anyways.... back on topic now.... i still think the DBV is the most versatile tool now. it can do all the OP wanted, can pair with a bong easily in many different ways, can do concentrates, can freshen the air in your room, and on top of all that is VERY reasonably priced.

 

[vorrange]

This whole thread was started by the OP as an alternative for the Enano as a heavy home hitter.

The Solo is many things but it is not a heavy home hitter. It is great and you can get very medicated but i can also get very medicated in my Vaponic, that does not make it a heavy home hitter.


The Enano and the HI can keep up with the fast extraction of bigger units although they don't have the bigger bowl capacity in some of them... although i think some bowls are way too big for the majority of users, but that is just my opinion and based on my personal experience and my point of view from analyzing the feedback here at FC which is still just a sample of the universe of vapers out there.

7th floor models offer what you intend Osn Dsn, but i would invest in an SSV if you also want to hit it dry. It is the opinion of many who own the SSV and the LSV that the LSV is not great while dry, i dunno why but some say the vapor is too harsh.
The problem with 7th floor models is that you need to order from the US as they have progressively disapeared from the EU market.

At the same price range you also have the herborizer XL without water piece at 260€, and the Herbalaire at 200€. The non-portable miniVAP is 370€ which is a good option if you are willling to spend a bit more.

Other than that, i wouldn't recomend any other big hitter... I do recomend the Lotus to use at home, it has been my go to unit lately due to the quality of the extraction and the taste coupled with being so pratical and fast to use and put away but many people don't like to use a torch lighter and you seem to be one of those people.

 

[Osn Dosn]

Wow. Such good answer. So amaze. Very thanks.

I just kinda overdid on my Ascent.. on the office toilet. And it was producing thicker smokelike clouds than ever. Same everything. Wonder what happened there, and there we are with very well medicated and heavy smokey pokey hits, but still not what I'm looking for here, as this took me 15mins.
And I totally agree on the "although i think some bowls are way too big for the majority of users" part btw. Although a bigger bowl is fine if it can be consumed in multiple times without any loss.

I need no joint high - or the one I just got from the Ascent with ~0.2 - just one that keeps the existing going in a well noticeable harsh hit.
In situations like
you're playing a videogame and after each round of 15-45min you have about ~1-2mins to take a hit
you're watching stupid tv and each 15-45min a commercial break appears and you have about ~1-2mins to take a hit
you're working at home at night and each 15-45mins..

The Enano and the HI can keep up with the fast extraction of bigger units although they don't have the bigger bowl capacity in some of them... although i think some bowls are way too big for the majority of users, but that is just my opinion and based on my personal experience and my point of view from analyzing the feedback here at FC which is still just a sample of the universe of vapers out there.

7th floor models offer what you intend Osn Dsn, but i would invest in an SSV if you also want to hit it dry. It is the opinion of many who own the SSV and the LSV that the LSV is not great while dry, i dunno why but some say the vapor is too harsh.
The problem with 7th floor models is that you need to order from the US as they have progressively disapeared from the EU market.

At the same price range you also have the herborizer XL without water piece at 260€, and the Herbalaire at 200€. The non-portable miniVAP is 370€ which is a good option if you are willling to spend a bit more.

Other than that, i wouldn't recomend any other big hitter... I do recomend the Lotus to use at home, it has been my go to unit lately due to the quality of the extraction and the taste coupled with being so pratical and fast to use and put away but many people don't like to use a torch lighter and you seem to be one of those people.

So if I get you right you think the only good options are

- e nano
- HI (which is what btw ? )

- SSV (as I want to use it dry too no LSV) - Herbalaire, Herborizer are only an option if I couldn't get the SSV/DB right?!

- MiniVape

- VapeXhale Evo


How would you rank those 3-5 for my purpose?

 

[clouded vision]

Coming from someone who has owned and used both the LSV and SSV, I preferred the LSV both dry and through water. Granted the LSV is harsher dry because of the shorter vapor path, but it also provides thicker better tasting hits quicker. When you do want to pair it with water, the LSV is miles ahead of the other 2 7th floor models

 

[Tweak]

Granted the LSV is harsher dry because of the shorter vapor path, but it also provides thicker better tasting hits quicker.

Really? I've always thought that all 7th floor products produce about the same. Where you using the standard wand with the SSV?

I've used all three HC/wand combos for the SSV, I figured the LSV would be similar to the GG and SGG wands.