C-weed
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What attatchment do you use to go nano to mobius?
Discontinued Epicvape EV-1/EV-2
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XGerpXDerpX
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Anyone find a precooler to work with direct draw stem?
XGerpXDerpX
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Ya this thing is nice, been using it on a showerhead bubbler. Just got nice off it and herbs still half green in the gong, as opposed to cashing out that amount in one or two bong rips conbusting
slowandsteady
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Do you guys prefer to use this with a whip or attached to a water piece?
max
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gong adapters
Hits are much smoother with a bubbler, and the vape easily sits on top like it's made for that purpose.slowandsteady said:
XGerpXDerpX
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Vaporblunts hydratube look sick on it...on a bubbler it works great, I can wrap my hand around the mouthpiece and ev to hold it, fingers wrap along the groove of the ev, feels natural holding it (I have a zob bub), the hydratubes are better though, makes it a vapor bong
I ordered one of these along with two E-Nanos for the 420 deal. I tried an E-Nano out last night and loved it. Let's see how this performs. I'm fond of whips.
00:06 - It might just be the nature of the design but I feel like it takes the EV-2 a little longer to heat up. Then again it might just have better ventilation or something and I'm underestimating the heat. Time to test it out.
00:07 - Oh yeah it's working. And that hits as smooth as silk if you take it slow. Beautiful.
00:15 - Took it out after a few draws and knocked it around a bit to shake up the herb. Wish I didn't have to do that, I like that the E-Nano doesn't require it. However this is definitely the better option when you're sharing with others and the hits are incomparably smooth.
00:56 - Good stuff but I'll save it for social occasions. The E-Nano can't be beat when it comes to flying solo.
00:06 - It might just be the nature of the design but I feel like it takes the EV-2 a little longer to heat up. Then again it might just have better ventilation or something and I'm underestimating the heat. Time to test it out.
00:07 - Oh yeah it's working. And that hits as smooth as silk if you take it slow. Beautiful.
00:15 - Took it out after a few draws and knocked it around a bit to shake up the herb. Wish I didn't have to do that, I like that the E-Nano doesn't require it. However this is definitely the better option when you're sharing with others and the hits are incomparably smooth.
00:56 - Good stuff but I'll save it for social occasions. The E-Nano can't be beat when it comes to flying solo.
Hammerzeit
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Shit. My new mouthpiece came in, but it turns out I've got part of another ground glass bowl stuck in the ground glass part of my unit. Screens still in it and everything. 
Anyone got any ideas on how to get it out?
Anyone got any ideas on how to get it out?
Not sure what you mean, can you post a pic?Shit. My new mouthpiece came in, but it turns out I've got part of another ground glass bowl stuck in the ground glass part of my unit. Screens still in it and everything.
Anyone got any ideas on how to get it out?
kingofnull
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Can anyone explain with the vapor seems so much smoother on direct draw than, say, the Solo at the same temperature?
XGerpXDerpX
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Airflow?
Hammerzeit
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Its not the best picture, but the glass broke inside the GONG.
I've tried to get it out on my own but its stuck pretty fast.
Frickr
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have to warn all users of this vape that I find is a major design flaw. My unit had a major short, my guess is the light made contact with the base. This short lead to a very large shock when my finger touched the metal at the base. When the unit came into contact with a grounded appliance a large spark was emitted, the arc was strong enough to melt a spot out of the base. I had asked for a design modification to all existing vapes to include a 3 wire grounded plug to protect the user from any chance of shock. Being an electrician I'm all to familiar with the dangers of electric shocks. This one I'm very lucky that the path was just through my fingers instead of between arms across my heart where a good chance the full 120 volts I measured with my meter on the base surely would have killed me. I had asked for the owner to come on here and provide a solution to this so no other users have to receive the same or a possible worse shock to them that I had received. I sent my unit in a few weeks ago and have followed up with emails and phone calls but have not heard back from the company since I first informed them of the problem and how I felt it could be made safer. So u hope the community can help me see this through and pressure the owner to change all existing ev2's to a grounded 3 prong plug.
Damn, Frickr. I'm glad you're alright, that is seriously scary. Since you're an electrician, would you be able to disassemble the unit to ascertain whether it was a crazy fluke or dangerous design flaw? I mean that shouldn't be happening ever.
I want to clarify something about how this situation and the forum intersect. This is a potentially life threatening issue that has been raised by a veteran member who also happens to be an electrician. The issue will be discussed in this thread since it is directly pertaining to this model. However, this discussion will remain civil and reasoned. If you don't have something constructive to add to the discussion, or if you can't say it without breaking the forum rules (be nice), don't post here.
Normally we do not allow manufacturers to post in threads about another company's vape unless it's a 100% positive post. We take this rule seriously, however, considering what's at stake here we will make an exception providing that the caveat about civility is met. Posts that do not abide by the criteria outlined above will be deleted or edited and warning points may be given.
Some replies have been removed as they did not meet the criteria outlined above. This is not an opportunity to make general comments on Andy or his products. The fact that this is a serious issue has already been raised so there's no need to say it again unless you have something new and constructive to add. We're looking for technical information to help shed light on the issue Frickr experienced. Thank you.
I would like to state that my comment in no way was meant to condemn Andy nor his products. I very much want him to succeed in his endeavors and have no bias against him. Just want to know if the EV-2/nano are safe for the consumer market. I apologize if I'm out of line here.
Frickr
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have to say this experience has in no way affected my respect for the company or the cap. in general. I've been very pleased with the unit. While it may not be perfect I think a new cord and grounding the metal parts that are exposed will make this one if the safest and best performing vapes out there. 120 v on a 15 amp circuit is nothing to take lightly but it was part of my attraction to this vape.
I did receive an email from Andy and he's having his engineer look at it to see what went wrong. I chosen. Not to open it to avoid voiding the warrenty. I will keep the community informed of the issue.
I did receive an email from Andy and he's having his engineer look at it to see what went wrong. I chosen. Not to open it to avoid voiding the warrenty. I will keep the community informed of the issue.
Can you please elaborate on what you think caused the electrical issue with your unit? If there's a real safety issue with existing units, our members need to know about it.
Can you also please address this issue?
Do we need to have a third party do a safety audit on a unit?
Quetzalcoatl
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I think Hammerzeit means he broke off part of the stem and it's on/in the actual unit? Not sure how he's supposed to address this issue if he doesn't have a picture to see what actually happened...
The engineer who designed the circuit has the unit and is testing it. Let me reiterate, this appears to be an isolated case as it has only affected one unit.
Frickr
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all i could see on my unit without taking it apart was a burn mark on the inside of the unit around the indicator lamp. it looked to me as if one of the wires attached to the light had made contact with the side of the hole that the light emerges from. once again, as i did not want to void the warranty i chose not to open up the vape and take a look at it even though i did have the urge to see the inner electronics of this vape.
i surmise that the electronics are very basic with a 3 way switch one side would go to a small trimpot to control the temp the other side of the switch would bypass the trimpot and provide full line power to the heating element. also in parallel with the heating element would be the indicator lamp being very close to the inner workings of the silver surfer vape. which the power would go to a pot then to the heating element with a lamp in parallel. the major differance being the addition of the 3 way switch to provide full power on demand while retaining the settings of the trimpot, and the ssv also has a 3 wire grounded plug grounding the whole vape (as it is all metal). so the 3rd round prong of the plug would be attatched to the inside of the ssv to the metal surface so in the event that any malfunction of the electronics, the user would be protected.
thats why im pushing very strongly for epicvape to add a 3 wire plug to their vapes, to protect the end user. even though this seems to be an isolated event, if it happened once, it could happen again. The 3rd wire would be screwed into the metal base and would protect against shock to the user. even if the user were to drop their vape into a full bathtub the grounding plug "should" protect the user. With exposed metal parts that can potentially make contact with 120V 15 A circuit there should be some sort of grounding in place. as it only takes .06 amps across your heart to kill you, 15 amps is enough to kill you many times over. people get into the habit of thinking that the outlets in their house are safe because they are "only 120 volts" and are located in their living space, when the truth is many people a year get killed by imporper grounding. weather by removing the ground plug to fit into an older style 2 prong outlet, or by having an outlet that is not properly wired and grounded.
i surmise that the electronics are very basic with a 3 way switch one side would go to a small trimpot to control the temp the other side of the switch would bypass the trimpot and provide full line power to the heating element. also in parallel with the heating element would be the indicator lamp being very close to the inner workings of the silver surfer vape. which the power would go to a pot then to the heating element with a lamp in parallel. the major differance being the addition of the 3 way switch to provide full power on demand while retaining the settings of the trimpot, and the ssv also has a 3 wire grounded plug grounding the whole vape (as it is all metal). so the 3rd round prong of the plug would be attatched to the inside of the ssv to the metal surface so in the event that any malfunction of the electronics, the user would be protected.
thats why im pushing very strongly for epicvape to add a 3 wire plug to their vapes, to protect the end user. even though this seems to be an isolated event, if it happened once, it could happen again. The 3rd wire would be screwed into the metal base and would protect against shock to the user. even if the user were to drop their vape into a full bathtub the grounding plug "should" protect the user. With exposed metal parts that can potentially make contact with 120V 15 A circuit there should be some sort of grounding in place. as it only takes .06 amps across your heart to kill you, 15 amps is enough to kill you many times over. people get into the habit of thinking that the outlets in their house are safe because they are "only 120 volts" and are located in their living space, when the truth is many people a year get killed by imporper grounding. weather by removing the ground plug to fit into an older style 2 prong outlet, or by having an outlet that is not properly wired and grounded.
u bwade wunner
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The incoming power cords should have a strain relief fitted to the cord where it enters the Body of both the Enano and the EV .Similar to the latest LSV safety update.
Safety and Consumers always first pls.
Safety and Consumers always first pls.
I was waiting until photos were posted of the EV-2 to make this post, but that may take a while yet.
Consumer safety is my number one priority. It should be the number one priority of every manufacturer. When a potentially fatal design flaw is discovered, a responsible manufacturer would immediately stop selling the potentially affected products until the root cause is determined and a resolution implemented.
This issue does affect me as I have also designed a 110v unit. It has an all aluminum body so preventing shocks is even more critical. I chose to design to the least common denominator. The person who only has access to a two plug wall outlet in an old apartment. A third conductor in the cord (ground) is not going to be effective since they would probably just install a cheap adapter to allow them to plug it in. I am using a code approved strain relief device with the addition of a section of silicone tubing to provide further protection for the wire insulation as it enters the strain relief device. The wires from the lamp cord are crimped, soldered, and heat shrink wrapped directly to the heating element. There are no locations where wires could possibly work loose. It is as safe as the lamp cord itself. Not really even a need to cover them since it would be the same as touching the lamp cord. Keeping it as simple as possible.
Wire nuts are intended to be used in locations where there are no movements of the terminal box. Shakes and movements could cause the nuts to fall off which would expose the energized wires.
Have you considered eliminating the neon light / resistor and just direct wiring the heating element without using wire nuts? Control the EV-2 just as you control the e-nano. Simplify it and eliminate potential shock points.
Will you be adding code approved strain relief devices on all your new and existing devices? If not, how can you justify it? Please take safety seriously.
This post is only intended to sell safety. Nothing else.
Consumer safety is my number one priority. It should be the number one priority of every manufacturer. When a potentially fatal design flaw is discovered, a responsible manufacturer would immediately stop selling the potentially affected products until the root cause is determined and a resolution implemented.
This issue does affect me as I have also designed a 110v unit. It has an all aluminum body so preventing shocks is even more critical. I chose to design to the least common denominator. The person who only has access to a two plug wall outlet in an old apartment. A third conductor in the cord (ground) is not going to be effective since they would probably just install a cheap adapter to allow them to plug it in. I am using a code approved strain relief device with the addition of a section of silicone tubing to provide further protection for the wire insulation as it enters the strain relief device. The wires from the lamp cord are crimped, soldered, and heat shrink wrapped directly to the heating element. There are no locations where wires could possibly work loose. It is as safe as the lamp cord itself. Not really even a need to cover them since it would be the same as touching the lamp cord. Keeping it as simple as possible.
Wire nuts are intended to be used in locations where there are no movements of the terminal box. Shakes and movements could cause the nuts to fall off which would expose the energized wires.
Have you considered eliminating the neon light / resistor and just direct wiring the heating element without using wire nuts? Control the EV-2 just as you control the e-nano. Simplify it and eliminate potential shock points.
Will you be adding code approved strain relief devices on all your new and existing devices? If not, how can you justify it? Please take safety seriously.
This post is only intended to sell safety. Nothing else.