Bakin4Life
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Well, now there's a nice blank canvas to do underground cabling, isn't there? /s
Maybe that was the plan, all along.
Maybe that was the plan, all along.
Environmental Disasters! (we saw coming)
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Spy Car
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Heve you ever been to Los Angeles? Do you understand the geography???
I'm sorry, but your suggestions are laughable, which wouldn't be so bad in other circumstances, but are beyond obnoxious at the moment.
Running electricity underground through mountain ranges is not tenable.
Please save the extremist and highly ignorant commentary. It is very unwelcome to those of us who are under threat and is not helpful in the slightest.
Good grief!
Bill
florduh
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After PG&E got slapped with a $25 Billion fine in the aftermath of the Camp Fire, they started burying some of their lines up north.
www.power-grid.com
It is very expensive though and those costs get passed along to customers. So that plan has opponents. LA County is over 4,000 square miles as well.
But a lot of these power lines are built on timber poles that were put up decades ago. Given the on again off again drought conditions in SoCal, they need to be hardened one way or another. It's possible to reinforce them to withstand high winds, for example.
From the lawsuit against Edison International:
I know hardening the infrastructure would cost more than $200 million. But spending $200 million to do stock market manipulation when your infrastructure isn't prepared for the realities of the 21st century is pretty shitty, imo.
Still, Edison isn't solely responsible. 2023 was wetter than average. This caused an explosion of vegetation. Then 2024 was much drier than usual. So all of that 2023 vegetation became a ticking time bomb. Along comes a rainless hurricane...and here we are.
PG&E has buried more than 800 miles of power lines in high wildfire-risk areas, and it’s not done yet
As of this week, PG&E has completed more than 187 miles of work toward the company's target of undergrounding 250 miles in 2024.
www.power-grid.com
It is very expensive though and those costs get passed along to customers. So that plan has opponents. LA County is over 4,000 square miles as well.
But a lot of these power lines are built on timber poles that were put up decades ago. Given the on again off again drought conditions in SoCal, they need to be hardened one way or another. It's possible to reinforce them to withstand high winds, for example.
From the lawsuit against Edison International:
I know hardening the infrastructure would cost more than $200 million. But spending $200 million to do stock market manipulation when your infrastructure isn't prepared for the realities of the 21st century is pretty shitty, imo.
Still, Edison isn't solely responsible. 2023 was wetter than average. This caused an explosion of vegetation. Then 2024 was much drier than usual. So all of that 2023 vegetation became a ticking time bomb. Along comes a rainless hurricane...and here we are.
Radwin Bodnic
Well-Known Member
This is starting to look like an exponential growth... not cool...
florduh
Well-Known Member
While America is getting ready to "drill baby drill" China is getting ready to build a solar panel array in orbit that can potentially produce more energy in a year than all of the oil on Earth.
www.livescience.com
China plans to build enormous solar array in space — and it could collect more energy in a year than 'all the oil on Earth'
China has announced plans to build a giant solar power space station, which will be lifted into orbit piece by piece using the nation's brand-new heavy lift rockets.
florduh
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Planet-warming carbon dioxide levels rose more than ever in 2024
The record rise is incompatible with keeping global warming to 1.5C according to the Met Office.
florduh
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Wake up, babe. It's time for another yearly monthly weekly once in a century weather event!
www.nola.com
New Orleans ties snowfall record set 130 years ago. See how much fell during rare storm.
In 1865, record-breaking snowfall was measured in Audubon Park. New Orleans experienced the same amount during Tuesday's blizzard.
florduh
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Those people don't have enough RAM in their brains to process two words at the same time. Yes, it isn't warm at their house. But the rest of the globe is unusually warm.
Also, global warming damages the jet stream, allowing arctic temperatures to reach all the way to the Gulf of Luigi more often.
Arctic blast grips South, New Orleans sees 10 inches of snow: Live updates
Arctic air grips the central and eastern U.S., bringing record-breaking cold, dangerous wind chills, and historic snowfall. Follow Newsweek's live blog.
www.newsweek.com
buzzardwhiskey
Member
Is that right? I AM ignorant. Of that there is no doubt. But when I went to Switzerland, I actually remember marveling that there were so few power cables (or any cables, really) visible anywhere especially compared to The States.
Radwin Bodnic
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well... Switzerland is certainly wealthy enough to bury all their power cables.
And the road and town density is far more important than in the US so the distribution is less straightforward and they don't need much straight high voltage lines.
