Environmental Disasters! (we saw coming)
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CANtalk
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Microplastics are widespread in seafood we eat, study finds
Fish and shrimp are full of tiny particles from clothing, packaging and other plastic products, that could affect our health.
www.newsweek.com
florduh
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I'm renting a place in LA. Currently trying to figure out how I'm going to sleep 3 friends and a little yappy dog in my one bedroom because they had to suddenly evacuate. That's the best case scenario, because the evacuation zones are moving slowly this way. Hopefully not because the roads are apocalyptic.
Just a few months ago I weathered a rare powerful late season hurricane at my parents' house in Floriduh.
Just a few months ago I weathered a rare powerful late season hurricane at my parents' house in Floriduh.
Radwin Bodnic
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Fuck combustion !
florduh
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Literally!
I ended up being fine (so far). The fire that was threatening my friends' homes and mine has been mostly contained. But it was scary, because it went from nothing to a major blaze within minutes. And was starting to encroach on one of the most densely populated areas of the State. Apartment buildings, not single family homes. If it went on a little longer there would've been hundreds of thousands rendered homeless.
The same thing almost happened in Santa Monica. Their famous pier:
vapviking
Old & In the Way
So sorry for the trauma, just a horrific time out there.
And relieved to hear you are okay. So far.
letter never sent
reckoner
Stay safe LA friends! Terrifying stuff going on right now. Hope the winds die down soon.
florduh
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Thanks! And yes I'm totally fine (minus lung damage). And very lucky. There are thousands of people who have lost everything and won't get it back due to insurance fuckery.
For people who aren't familiar, this is not the fire season. It's the rainy season. But it hasn't really rained since May. And this is the most disastrous fire ever in LA County.
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Oh dude I didn't know you were here, yeah it's the end of days like surrounded by fire, was afraid of possibly evacuating as well, thankfully okay where I am too
florduh
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Yeah I’ve been bouncing back and forth between CA and FL.
The Sunset fire was the only close call for me. I’m between WeHo and Hollywood. Had a few friends in apartments that back up to Runyon who had to evacuate and stay with me for the night.
It was fucking bedlam lol. They both ended up ditching their cars and walking. I went to go meet one of them half way and I’ve never seen the roads like this.
Their apartments were both fine. Both cars were ticketed in the AM lol
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yeah I'm lucky I'm a little further south now, although I used to live right next to it on the other side and that area didn't have an order it seemed? I bet people left though, I have other friends who left ahead of the order and coworkers all affected everywhere it's really a nightmare scenario (ticketing! lol)
florduh
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Maybe it was a secondary not mandatory evac zone? The couple's building backs up to the Runyon entrance. My other friend lives on Franklin, so was probably fine. But there was an hour or two where that fire looked scary as hell. Plus, I'd rather them not be like this guy:
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Maybe it was a secondary not mandatory evac zone? The couple's building backs up to the Runyon entrance. My other friend lives on Franklin, so was probably fine. But there was an hour or two where that fire looked scary as hell. Plus, I'd rather them not be like this guy:
Woah lol Yeah no that's definitely closer, this was much for their east on Franklin but yeah it really is still being surrounded over here
vapviking
Old & In the Way
Donald Trump’s Disaster-Hijacking Playbook Exposed By Expert On Right-Wing Media
www.huffpost.com
I don't know these people, the podcaster or his guest, but what she had to say was spot on.
This part of the summary struck a chord,
"...the degradation of public life, that everything just feels worse all the time.”
Interesting view on how MAGA turns perception for the worse, and we collectively feel shitty. And angry. And blame the "other" which of course is "each other."
It strikes me there may be a huge need and opportunity here to dose the country on acid and snap us out of this great hate cycle.
We need a Luigi Owsley Appleseed.
Edit, now moments ago, from Trump's sentencing...
“This defendant has caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system and has placed officers of the court in harm’s way,” Joshua Steinglass says.
Trump’s Disaster-Hijacking Playbook Exposed By Expert On Right-Wing Media
Nicole Hemmer also explored the potent cocktail -- involving the president-elect -- that means "everything just feels worse all the time."
This part of the summary struck a chord,
"...the degradation of public life, that everything just feels worse all the time.”
Interesting view on how MAGA turns perception for the worse, and we collectively feel shitty. And angry. And blame the "other" which of course is "each other."
It strikes me there may be a huge need and opportunity here to dose the country on acid and snap us out of this great hate cycle.
We need a Luigi Owsley Appleseed.
Edit, now moments ago, from Trump's sentencing...
“This defendant has caused enduring damage to public perception of the criminal justice system and has placed officers of the court in harm’s way,” Joshua Steinglass says.
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florduh
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I think he probably has made people nastier to each other. But like with everything else, imo, he's more of a symptom than the cause 
Social media in general has made people meaner. There's also the whole Right Wing media ecosystem. That project goes back to Watergate when Roger Ailes (who went on to found Fox News) mused they could save Nixon if they had their own media. Trump came about as a confluence of these two phenomena.
Related: I'm truly disgusted by how this whole fucking country shits on Angelenos. They're not all millionaire "Hollyweirdos". And even then, like 95% of the entertainment industry (including relatively successful actors) live hand to mouth.
I've lived all over this country. And Angelinos (when not driving) are some of the kindest, most decent people in America. My general philosophy is "laugh to keep from crying" but this shit is finally breaking me.
Looks like a fucking nuclear bomb went off.
Also, speaking of the Right Wing media... there are absolutely reasons to blame the Cali and LA govts. But pretty much everything that would've mitigated this disaster involves either higher taxes on rich people or more regulations. Both things you people hate. So maybe... shut the fuck up for once
Social media in general has made people meaner. There's also the whole Right Wing media ecosystem. That project goes back to Watergate when Roger Ailes (who went on to found Fox News) mused they could save Nixon if they had their own media. Trump came about as a confluence of these two phenomena.
Related: I'm truly disgusted by how this whole fucking country shits on Angelenos. They're not all millionaire "Hollyweirdos". And even then, like 95% of the entertainment industry (including relatively successful actors) live hand to mouth.
I've lived all over this country. And Angelinos (when not driving) are some of the kindest, most decent people in America. My general philosophy is "laugh to keep from crying" but this shit is finally breaking me.
Looks like a fucking nuclear bomb went off.
Also, speaking of the Right Wing media... there are absolutely reasons to blame the Cali and LA govts. But pretty much everything that would've mitigated this disaster involves either higher taxes on rich people or more regulations. Both things you people hate. So maybe... shut the fuck up for once
Shit Snacks
Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yeah it's rough getting rougher, so much this
florduh
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The Gay Woke Paris Accords were supposed to prevent us from hitting 1.5C of globull warming in 20 years. Turns out we just passed it!
www.bbc.com
You can click on the image to get a non-paywalled version. The guy left Altadena 2 years ago because he saw the writing on the wall. But even he assumed this disaster was still many years in the future. Shit's accelerating.
Apparently the dude was censored by the NYT. Here's a couple minute interview:
World's hottest year: 2024 first to pass 1.5C warming limit
Last year was the world's warmest on record, bringing temperatures above a politically symbolic milestone.
You can click on the image to get a non-paywalled version. The guy left Altadena 2 years ago because he saw the writing on the wall. But even he assumed this disaster was still many years in the future. Shit's accelerating.
Apparently the dude was censored by the NYT. Here's a couple minute interview:
florduh
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Turns out the Altadena fire wasn't caused by DEI, Wokeness, Lesbians etc.
abc7.com
Look. Hurricane force winds combined with 5% humidity and above ground power lines...maybe this was bound to happen. Reinforcing power lines to withstand that kind of thing is expensive. At the same time...
newsroom.edison.com
These people did $200 million in stock buybacks last summer instead of hardening their infrastructure. This is Looting. Much more consequential looting than people allegedly stealing TV's that have been burnt to a crisp.
First lawsuits filed against Southern California Edison over Eaton Fire
At least four lawsuits were filed Monday morning against Southern California Edison in connection with the Eaton Fire.
abc7.com
Look. Hurricane force winds combined with 5% humidity and above ground power lines...maybe this was bound to happen. Reinforcing power lines to withstand that kind of thing is expensive. At the same time...
Edison International Reports Second-Quarter 2024 Results
ROSEMEAD, Calif., July 25, 2024 — Edison International (NYSE: EIX) today reported second-quarter net income of $439 million, or $1.14 per share, compared to net income of $354 million, or $0.92 per share, in the second quarter of last year.
These people did $200 million in stock buybacks last summer instead of hardening their infrastructure. This is Looting. Much more consequential looting than people allegedly stealing TV's that have been burnt to a crisp.
Bakin4Life
Oink
If the power / light company was the ignition source, then this is the SECOND major fire on them in CA in the last few years.
Last time, I think (?) they got a larger fine. This time? Dunno, but they should be on the hook for the rebuild costs, in a just world. Meh.
Socialized losses, again.
Last time, I think (?) they got a larger fine. This time? Dunno, but they should be on the hook for the rebuild costs, in a just world. Meh.
Socialized losses, again.
Spy Car
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I'm in a voluntary evacuation zone in Encino (Los Angeles).
My home is on the edge of the foothills (and hence in a fire zone) but the winds are driving the flames the other way.
Here was the view from my yard friday night.
Fuck combustion!
Bill
My home is on the edge of the foothills (and hence in a fire zone) but the winds are driving the flames the other way.
Here was the view from my yard friday night.
Fuck combustion!
Bill
Spy Car
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Not easy when one needs to supply vital electricity to millions of people and the lines run overhead on poles.
We had 100 mph winds.
Bill
bellona0544
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We don't live in a just world right now. And until we decide to start taking action, we will continue to live in this ridiculous, topsy-turvy world where the people least suited to rule--the Mayfair kings and queens who thought themselves powerful beyond the end of the festival--are dehumanizing their neighbors as a matter of policy.
Then it is incumbent upon the power companies that could have spent these last years creating underground or alternative electricity supply methods and instead spent hundreds of millions on stock buybacks to pay for this mess. No executive at Edison should be allowed to live in a home until every single one of the homes they burned down have been rebuilt.