Electric vapes with all-glass air & vapor path?

[TigoleBitties]

That's interesting, thanks! Unfortunately the exposed coil is too dangerous for us because we like to vape on the couch (not sitting at a table) and are very clumsy

I'm guessing you've heard of the Couchlog... Sounds like it might fit your vaping style

 

[dimmusp]

I'm guessing you've heard of the Couchlog... Sounds like it might fit your vaping style

Thanks, but this thread is about vapes with an all-glass air/vapor path, and AFAIK the CouchLog doesn't have one:

"airpath contains ceramic/stainless steel"
(https://420eng.com/products/couchlog-blackforest-oak)

Plus it's super expensive

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Plus it's super expensive

Don't you have a herbo Ti ?

 

[TigoleBitties]

Thanks, but this thread is about vapes with an all-glass air/vapor path, and AFAIK the CouchLog doesn't have one:

"airpath contains ceramic/stainless steel"
(https://420eng.com/products/couchlog-blackforest-oak)

Plus it's super expensive

Yeah, sorry... it was meant as a dumb joke playing on the couch theme. It's a great vape however but yes, it's pricy.

If you want to expand your materials a bit and include ceramics and wood, it might widen your scope a bit as they are quite neutral/natural materials. The Firewood vaporizer comes to mind.

If you can lay your hands on a Vaponic (they're so cheap) and have a Wand, you could try the IH heated Vaponic mentioned earlier quite easily.

 

[Shit Snacks]

If you want to expand your materials a bit and include ceramics and wood, it might widen your scope a bit as they are quite neutral/natural materials. The Firewood vaporizer comes to mind.

(except they also include stainless steel)

 

[Shafty]

Basically the answer after all this is that exactly what you want doesn't exist unless the BakX is affordable to you. The Vaponic is an interesting option though. When you have numerous strict requirements, that's what happens.

You'll need to be more flexible with your use or materials to get more options. What's more important, a perfect goldilocks device, or having attainable options?

Personally, I just pick a device depending on mood or setting. At home it's desktop vapes, except in bed, and TM2 anywhere else. All of it beats smoking.

 

[Varden]

The original ball vape design was made of only glass pieces from lab glassware and had an air and vapor path only of glass.

 

[Shafty]

The original ball vape design was made of only glass pieces from lab glassware and had an air and vapor path only of glass.

Yeah, but not "couch" safe. Thankfully they wised up and changed to metals. Way more efficient, faster heating, and cools down faster.

 

[highvaper]

Here you go the coil now has a nice glass or ceramic housing

https://imgur.com/a/sGysFAD

Current stem selection

https://imgur.com/a/mmvByvx

the big one gives about a 20 mins session and you can just dip it in and out of the tube so the only thing your holding is the stem.

 

[TigoleBitties]

(except they also include stainless steel)

Yeah true... Maybe a stem with a glass screen could work.

The original ball vape design was made of only glass pieces from lab glassware and had an air and vapor path only of glass.

I don't know the origins exactly but the VHB Slide fits the bill except it's never in stock. I think it just fits in the Wand if one were to try a metal sleeve for IH.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yeah true... Maybe a stem with a glass screen could work.

There is stainless steel in the heating elements though was also my point

 

[TigoleBitties]

There is stainless steel in the heating elements though was also my point

Oh ok... I thought the SS heated the ceramic bowl but was out of the vapor path. My bad. I don't know the design in detail.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Oh ok... I thought the SS heated the ceramic bowl but was out of the vapor path. My bad. I don't know the design in detail.

It is out of the vapor path, but it is not SS heated ceramic, it is an SS coil that wraps around the ceramic chamber capsules... Fresh air comes through the wood and mixes with that so it is hybrid not just pure conduction although you can use FW9 to maximize one or the other, BAK is a bit more pure conduction by comparison... And couchlog heating element has stainless steel in the resistor cartridge heater thing that is surrounded by the ceramic balls

 

[Hippie]

What about one of the 7th Floor vapes with the baller mod ?

Does the DreamWood Peacemaker meet the requirements? I can't tell if the kanthal coil is in the airpath or not

 

[Shit Snacks]

What about one of the 7th Floor vapes with the baller mod ?

Perhaps if you have the right stem pathway for the bowl without a screen? Ehh wouldn't be my choice to use one of them now

Does the DreamWood Peacemaker meet the requirements? I can't tell if the kanthal coil is in the airpath or not

No not at all, of course it is in the air bath, the air is heated by it directly like their Glow

 

[TigoleBitties]

What about one of the 7th Floor vapes with the baller mod ?

I have one of those but not sure the airpath is closed off from electronics and such. I know the heater is coated in ceramic and the rubies are the same material (corundum). You can use a glass pathway with a glass screen. I love the hits it can give.

 

[dimmusp]

Don't you have a herbo Ti ?

I do, but that's the vape that my wife accidentally dropped on her lap while sitting on the couch...
Thankfully, it only burned a hole through her blanket and didn't hurt her or cause a fire.

 

[Cheebsy]

I'm not sure you can meet all of these objectives... Maybe one of alans gtr logs would work for you? It has a glass core with ceramic resistor heater. The heater is suspended in the glass tube with SS screens though but there only a few iirc. It shouldn't burn anything being encapsulated in wood...

I guess it depends on how heavily you value each of your specific choices. What's more important, safety or pure path?

 

[CANtalk]

Hi,

I'm looking for an electric vape where both the air and the vapor path are all-glass.

AFAIK, one of the best options is the Lamart BAKx, but the next drop might be months away and the ~$750 units available at Connabis Sommelier are way too expensive.

The other option would be a coil vape, but after a small accident with a Herborizer Ti, I really don't want a vape that can easily burn us or the furniture/house...

Are there any other options out there?

Thanks

For all glass, the Elev8r with a coil & PID will work from what I've seen on FC. It's like many ball vapes though in that the exposed coil heater is a burn / fire hazard.

My choice in striving for an all glass airpath has been the VapeXhale EVO (no longer made but still lurking around FC with some support & availability). It has a glass airpath with a stainless steel basket holding the herb above the heater. The vape is enclosed in a plastic shell & one simply adds a mouthpiece / water piece. There's no burn or fire hazard. I regularly keep the EVO on the couch in use, like a hand held vape, in the family room.

And the EVO has a full glass airpath with concentrates

I don't like metal heaters in the airpath. It's easier to avoid that in desktop vapes, not so much in electric portables. As an alternative, I like zirconia heat chamber options.

Good luck with ur choice.

 

[dimmusp]

This looks super interesting, has anyone checked it out?

Dnail on Instagram: "Quartz Lotus with @pukinbeagle First hit, first impressions: ●flavor was basically perfect ●heat retention is excellent ●restriction is very comfortable ●the airflow is as uniform as we hoped (we haven't needed to stir at all f

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Edit: Very expensive, though! https://d-nail.com/quartz-lotus-pukinbeagle-x-d-nail-full-bundle/

 

[highvaper]

Looks very breakable especially if your prone to dropping stuff. Im not sure how compatible glass and accidents are.

 

[Grass Yes]

This looks super interesting, has anyone checked it out?

Dnail on Instagram: "Quartz Lotus with @pukinbeagle First hit, first impressions: ●flavor was basically perfect ●heat retention is excellent ●restriction is very comfortable ●the airflow is as uniform as we hoped (we haven't needed to stir at all f

1,600 likes, 142 comments - dnail_gallery on June 3, 2024: "Quartz Lotus with @pukinbeagle First hit, first impressions: ●flavor was basically perfect ●heat retention is excellent ●restriction is very comfortable ●the airflow is as uniform as we hoped (we haven't needed to stir at all for even...

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Edit: Very expensive, though! https://d-nail.com/quartz-lotus-pukinbeagle-x-d-nail-full-bundle/

I was absolutely interested but I ended up baulking at the price. I do like to use my 18mm Killer in the UTHS though. I do have to use lab clips instead of that pretty glass handle though.

 

[dimmusp]

I've done the exact same thing with the EMK :

https://imgur.com/a/zfVpqzh

I can tell you for sure that on the 1MT, the balls that are not inside the coil when heating are going to take ages (and a big offset) to get to temp...

This herbalterm design is better suited to be blasted with a big torch imho. Alas it's glass not quartz.

I'm starting to warm up to the idea of using an 18 mm Killer like you do.

Could you please share more details about the parts you used?

Maybe I can keep the coil far away and just place the EMK on my bong, using the EMK as a "wireless ball vape" that is decently burn-safe and 100% glass/quartz based.

It would be way cheaper and less cumbersome / fragile than the Dnail Quartz Lotus setup.

(now I just need to get over the idea that quartz dust could form and be harmful... )

Thanks

 

[Shit Snacks]

now I just need to get over the idea that quartz dust could form and be harmful.

If you are dropping it on a WPA through a bong, I don't think that is anything to be worried about regardless? I wouldn't worry about it dry through a hook or other piece either, only maybe if you were inhaling direct with a straight stem, something I would never want to do personally lol

I was just using my 18 mm killer last night, it is pretty fucking fantastic! I got a $1.65 bamboo toast tongs from Amazon that are perfect to remove the heater from the bowl when hot, nicer than metal or silicone

 

[dimmusp]

Or maybe I should get one of the TRRW Quart

If you are dropping it on a WPA through a bong, I don't think that is anything to be worried about regardless? I wouldn't worry about it dry through a hook or other piece either, only maybe if you were inhaling direct with a straight stem, something I would never want to do personally lol

I was just using my 18 mm killer last night, it is pretty fucking fantastic! I got a $1.65 bamboo toast tongs from Amazon that are perfect to remove the heater from the bowl when hot, nicer than metal or silicone

Cool!

I'm also starting to consider the TRRW vapes like the Quartz Cap and the Terpcicle. I could one of them pair them up with a "Coil Cap" (https://theroguewaxworks.com/products/heating-coils-for-quartz-heaters) or something like that surrounded by a guard/shield and use it like @Radwin Bodnic does with the EMK.