I would need probably 6 or 7 weeks of no cannabis for me to have a clean test for our fav flower.
Same here! I'm 4 weeks in and failing my piss strip test. Am I a danger to society on the road? The testing is bullshit. So this means I can't use my medicine so I can "legally" drive, so my symptoms will flare up, and I WILL be a danger to society on the road. The saliva tests are premature and immature, and don't mean shit IMHO.
By the logic you just used, we shouldn't test for alcohol either. That should be proof enough that it isn't sound reasoning.
Some protection from dangerous behavior is better than no protection.
Yeah, sure buddy, "dangerous behaviour" from metabolites, stone cold sober. Alcohol testing allows for up to .05? Hmmm, much more inebriated than some metabolites in my body fat or saliva. By your reasoning, alcohol should be 0.0% because that's the same as 2ng in your saliva I bet.
It IS Cannabis, AND it gets you buzzed. "Medicated" isn't synonymous with "buzzed", nor should it be used as a replacement for it. You might medicate with Cannabis, but that doesn't change the fact that you get buzzed/high/stoned as a result of that medical use. "Medicated" means you have medicine in your system. Being buzzed, or stoned, or high, means you feel something as a result of that medication.
Stop extrapolating your own personal relationship with the drug on to others. Just because it gets YOU buzzed, doesn't mean that others get buzzed. Are you a medicinal user? Do you know what tolerance is? It's MEDICINE whether you like to admit it or not. Buzzed, stoned, high doesn't help our cause, let's grow up yeah? This isn't high school, it's FC.
I can't count the number of times someone on here says "I got really medicated last night", when what they mean is, I got a strong buzz last night from using Cannabis. That use of the word takes away from the actual medical Cannabis movement. It makes it seem like people refuse to realize that using Cannabis (with thc) gets you buzzed (assuming you're not using insanely small amounts that you can't feel, in which case you would t say "I got really medicated, anyway).
Let's not get into semantics here man, it's the "strong buzz" that is taking away from the medical cannabis movement. We're adults, it's cannabis, it's a medicine, and it gets you medicated. Leave the buzz on pot/weed/etc for the "stoners" on GrassCity.
That's like someone who drinks to calm anxiety saying they got medicated when they got drunk.
Semantics....let's just stop there.
Also, the whole, "I don't get high, I get even" thing, is just a nonsense saying that Cannabis users like to repeat. If you feel a buzz of any level, you aren't getting "even".
IF? Have you tried and CBD dominant strains? And yes, many of us long term medical users get even, and is the only way we can hold down a job, sleep, not commit homicide, suicide, etc. Your opinions and perceptions are completely out of reality IMO. Do you mind telling us your age? I'm 41 BTW. Yes, it's relevant.
That just proves the "test the for all or nothing" argument to be ridiculous.
The only thing that's ridiculous is the saliva testing and your arguments for it because it's "the best thing available". I think you're missing some key points here.
I agree with the intent of
@biohacker's comment which I believe is to not unfairly target cannabis users vs other prescription users (people use both cannabis and other prescriptions to cope with disabilities and to be able to be contributing members of society). I don't think calling someone else's point "ridiculous" is very nice.
Thanks man, I think Hazy perhaps is in "recreational mode" and doesn't know what medicinal users go through, I can related because I know far too many people like that as well. Like you said in your other post, "just a reason to get high".... backwards thinking from prohibition. The stigma is still massive for the less educated, and most people are. Too busy watching Big Brother or some BS reality show instead of feeding their brains.
What's ridiculous is allowing everything to slide just because some things aren't tested for. It would be insanity to allow BAC to go untested, just because they don't test for allergy medicine. Some protection from dangerous behavior is definitely better than none.
See point above on "dangerous behaviour". Why don't they target pharma drugs? Why hasn't it been a priority? Dude, they fucking encourage driving drunk.... how are bars even legal?? Society accepts and promotes drinking! Can I offer you a drink? That's society.
Your language is sloppy and your conclusion that people should be tested for cannabis when the tests are less than worthless is ridiculous.
If you want to search people's bloodstream and outlaw states of consciousness then at least get some scientific basis for your claims. Until then...no thanks.
Very well said, thank you!
Get real tests, or fuck off I say. They have real tests for alcohol, but not Cannabis, so don't test for it until it's ready. Or test your reaction time or ability to safely operate a vehicle, which is all that matters in the end. Medicine is personal and no business of anyone but the patient and their doctor.
And the testing for seniors starts at 80? What the fucking fuck??
And oh look, the Ontario government is now going to provide FREE pharmas for anyone under the age of 25! That's nearly $500m dollars for over 4000 prescription drugs! So much for money for actual proper drug testing. I guess we know where the money will come from? Innocent cannabis users that perhaps don't line the pockets of pharma? What a disgrace.
But i'll tell you, I do feel slightly medicated from time to time (daily) as I go through my detox. However it's all in my body, and doesn't affect my brain or driving ability that's forsure. Lack of sleep does that way more than Cannabis ever could. Good thing I can do shrooms and drive and get away with it?
