DIY Induction Heater Builds and References

132ikl

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@132ikl - Your low power draw may be your cap. The weakest cap I ever had came in at around 2.5 amps on a M'20. Also check the voltage at the input of the module to see you have at least 10V. The way you make the power level a bit higher is to remove a loop from the coil. Of course, winding the coil tighter might also improve the coupling.

Don't worry too much about the slow bake. You are reaping the benefits of a better bake as well. But you do want to bake at around 60 watts.
Thanks for the pointers. Seeing 12V on the dot across the ZVS module (two decimal places!) so getting around 30W. (Edit: I just realized I forgot to put under load when testing 🤦‍♀️actually looking at 11.67V, which definitely still good.) I've got an M'21. I can live with a weak cap, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong :lol:

Also came across this old Reddit comment of yours about cap gain ratios after doing some searching, very helpful. Have you done any more measurements since then? Might upgrade to a new cap if in the future I decide I'm not satisfied ;)
 
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My last measurements were of some 419 caps I got a few years ago with the 3rd batch of cap materials. They came in at a GR of 5:1. The '3rd batch' was of the original source. Learned since then that making 304 stainless steel magnetic requires work hardening the material. That means is it all about the tooling.
 
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Has anyone made one of these induction heaters for the Dani Fusion? I know most are geared toward the vapcap. I really would love to build my own induction heater, but I have no real knowledge of electrical mumbo jumbology. I just want one that I can plug into the wall and able to heat up my Fusion within like 10-20 seconds. I've seen folks using an ih for the dani and it taking closer to a min. Is there a good website that lists items needed and how to put it together?
 
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kokolokokolokon

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Is there a good website that lists items needed and how to put it together?
to reach that times you would need a stronger pcb than the usual one. For example:


Also I would recommend a dial regulator for the power (in the previous link, it can reach 1000W in theory….you dont want to use it at 1000W and it is good to find a sweet point with a dial).


Even you can get a screen to see the power, or a timer.
This are just examples and im not a pro making IH’s. I hope someone more can give you some tips!
 

TommyDee

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Watts is watts. Eventually everything will heat up, so the question is, wat rate of heating do you want. 120 watts based on the standard module is nothing to sneeze at. I find 60-70 watts to work out perfectly for a DV. This says you can easily double the mass of the tip/cap and still have a very good heating rate. Problem with faster heating is that the bake suffers in several ways.

Edit: I've run constant current power supplies on the standard module to manage variable input power. Works great.
 

2tiki

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to reach that times you would need a stronger pcb than the usual one. For example:


Also I would recommend a dial regulator for the power (in the previous link, it can reach 1000W in theory….you dont want to use it at 1000W and it is good to find a sweet point with a dial).


Even you can get a screen to see the power, or a timer.
This are just examples and im not a pro making IH’s. I hope someone more can give you some tips!
When I clicked on your last link, it was a 404 not found page. I have one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083GG2H6R/?th=1

Would that work well for most (if not all) dynavap, dani, etc, type of devices? Should it work with the up to 12v induction heater kits? Should it heat things just as fast as the Ispire Wand?

Could I use it with the more powerful IH that you link to, as long as I don't put it past 12 v? If so, would that be safer than using the 12v IH if I want to get it to 11v-12v?

What would I need to buy to connect the IH kit to the power supply? I assume there is a name for whatever wire plugs into the power supply, and whatever plugs into the IH kit.

Do both kits you link to, come with the coil, or do I need to buy that separately?

Thanks!
 
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Has anyone made one of these induction heaters for the Dani Fusion? I know most are geared toward the vapcap. I really would love to build my own induction heater, but I have no real knowledge of electrical mumbo jumbology. I just want one that I can plug into the wall and able to heat up my Fusion within like 10-20 seconds. I've seen folks using an ih for the dani and it taking closer to a min. Is there a good website that lists items needed and how to put it together?
I use the original induction heater from the 1. post at page 1 with a 12V 5A power supply and it work well with my Dani fusion. Heating time is around 20 seconds for first click, following clicks are around 12 second.
 
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chemedia

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Friends, help me figure it out. what could be the case, the board burned out. The power was supplied by 12 volts 5.5 Amperes. the fee is as from the first post.
 
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Flotsam

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I am new to this area and this forum, but i am an engineer by training. Just curious why no one has come up with a way of using a power tool battery for a power source? It seems these things are very safe, small packaging, well supported, and very prevalent and can provide significant current to an application. Milwaukee 12 v immediately comes to mind.

Thoughts?
 

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I am new to this area and this forum, but i am an engineer by training. Just curious why no one has come up with a way of using a power tool battery for a power source? It seems these things are very safe, small packaging, well supported, and very prevalent and can provide significant current to an application. Milwaukee 12 v immediately comes to mind.

Thoughts?
I believe it's because the pack connector/s is/are propritarary and hard to source.
 
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I am new to this area and this forum, but i am an engineer by training. Just curious why no one has come up with a way of using a power tool battery for a power source? It seems these things are very safe, small packaging, well supported, and very prevalent and can provide significant current to an application. Milwaukee 12 v immediately comes to mind.

Thoughts?
Would be neat to see a DIY version of the vestratto forge! Seemed like the extra power from the larger pack was very effective, but the bulkiness and relative scarcity of the power packs compared to 18650/21700 cells make them less desirable to develop with.
 
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Flotsam

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I guess i would need to see the form factor of what you are trying to connect to
but this is the battery and holder


If you dig hard enough can probably find the connector type you need to interface with on the vape. Undoubtedly since these are all Lithium batteries you have to be mindful of low voltage cutoff which these devices would need to have.
Pop the battery out from its holder and charge like you would for 12v tools.

I have never hooked up a battery to a small vape, but this was an inductive heater so maybe a small bulge is not horrible. just spitballing here. I have hooked up other batteries to other power tools i have found for next to nothing at other thrift stores. Nice cheap circular saw for instance.
 
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