DaVinci MIQRO
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Jill NYC
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@Davinci_vaporizer
That pouch thing might be helpful for some people, but for me it looks like a lot of extra work. I just want to be able to fill the oven as much/little as I want and get to it.
If I understand the concept correctly, you need to put the ground bud in a dispenser, then use that dispenser to load the pod and then put the pod in the oven. And I am still not sure it will really resolve the problem.
I would rather have a spacer I can just drop in after loading oven.
@cpl5938 - I am so happy to hear the miqro is working well for you so far.
That pouch thing might be helpful for some people, but for me it looks like a lot of extra work. I just want to be able to fill the oven as much/little as I want and get to it.
If I understand the concept correctly, you need to put the ground bud in a dispenser, then use that dispenser to load the pod and then put the pod in the oven. And I am still not sure it will really resolve the problem.
I would rather have a spacer I can just drop in after loading oven.
@cpl5938 - I am so happy to hear the miqro is working well for you so far.
I have found that you need to fill it MINIMALLY to the top of the white part to work well. But you can also go higher - as much as you can pack in and still have the oven door close is what I often do.
I tend to use the longer mouthpiece. While I usually don’t get bothered by the heat, I have a friend who can’t tolerate the heat from the flat mouthpiece, but is fine with the longer one.
OF
Well-Known Member
It's worth remembering that the volume of the bowl is not a fixed constant, the position of the pearl is a critical factor. So loading to some level only 'makes sense' (and is repeatable by the next user) should take that position as part of the formula?
Unfortunately, for those of us looking for smallest possible volume, there's a limit to how far the pearl can be lowered due to it hitting the mouth of the bowl when opening and closing. A fixed spacer for the bottom (top as used) might be a good solution. Shaping the pearl differently so the inside misses the wall perhaps?
OF
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ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
1970 is the year I first had CANNABIS so may-b I don’t have your experience?
Joint’s are the most practical 4 some?
I was thinking of getting a DAVINCI 4 b-4 eating?
So maybe this is a bad ideal?
OF
Well-Known Member
IIRC someone did test the pearl loose, but had some problems? I doubt there's enough room for two.
OF
NYC_Frank
"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
I agree totally Jill
So Davinci ... why aren't you offering up Glass spacers like the IQ has? ... is it the oval shape that causes a problem to manufacture? ... this one added accessory would make this great little device PERFECT ...
VapeWell
Well-Known Member
Speaking of lights... is there a comprehensive guide somewhere to the meaning of different led displays?
My mIQro arrived over the weekend and have been enjoying experimenting with microdosing. It’s a sweet little unit. However, I’m also having trouble switching between SP and manual operation and understanding what temp the unit is actually at.
Along those lines, I’ve read a lot online about temperatures, and to be clear (while the mIQro is a sophisticated little machine) the temp reading is, of course, the temp of the oven - not actually the product. So depending on packing, moisture content among other variables, at best the temp reading on the device is a guide?
Posts here on FC have been extremely helpful. This noob appreciates any insights! Ciao
naddude
Member
Here's what DaVinci had to say about this:
"Using 2 pearls will overfill the bowl and there is no room to add your botanical herb. However, I removed the pearl off the post and flipped the pearl upside down to use the post push the pearl into the chamber acting like a spacer. It's not a true spacer but it had came handy in a few situations.
Rich M - Techician DaVinci Vaporizer"
NYC_Frank
"A man with no vices is a man with no virtues"
Thanks ... it's worth a try
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
OF
Well-Known Member
Thanks, Jill, musta been you I was recalling.
In the early days of Ascent we got good results with 'glass flowers' like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Smoking-Screens-Flower-Screen-Assorted/dp/B01F8ZGHMQ
We found that not only did it reduce the load size (not the real goal) but there was extra heat stored there, spread throughout the load, to support more vapor production than without. This is what led to the glass spacers. The flowers are king of a PITA to add, but many of us found the results (in terms of vapor density) worth the effort.
I suspect this (flowers) would help here as well as the bowl is similar but smaller, giving fewer, but thicker hits.
OF
I was thinking of those little glass flowers as well. One caveat is that the "petals" sometimes broke off. I'd be worried that contact with the pearl would cause this to happen. Not to mention, fishing them out of the material wasn't ideal.
@Jill NYC, I agree, the pouches do seem a bit cumbersome to deal with. I'm in the product teams ear about a solution daily.
@VapeWell, welcome and temp control is our thing! Yes, there are a ton of factors such as moisture that will affect the overall temperature or at least the time that it takes the herb to get to that temp. You are correct, it is the temp of the oven that is causing the readout- it's really the one non-variable that we can offer in this case.
Have you checked out our youtube channel to learn about what the lights mean? It's a good starting point. I think the only thing I forgot to cover there is- when you see a single row of lights flashing during a smart path session, it's a countdown for session length...like a candle counting down from 5 minutes. It was one of those weird features that got added last minute.
@Jill NYC, I agree, the pouches do seem a bit cumbersome to deal with. I'm in the product teams ear about a solution daily.
@VapeWell, welcome and temp control is our thing! Yes, there are a ton of factors such as moisture that will affect the overall temperature or at least the time that it takes the herb to get to that temp. You are correct, it is the temp of the oven that is causing the readout- it's really the one non-variable that we can offer in this case.
Have you checked out our youtube channel to learn about what the lights mean? It's a good starting point. I think the only thing I forgot to cover there is- when you see a single row of lights flashing during a smart path session, it's a countdown for session length...like a candle counting down from 5 minutes. It was one of those weird features that got added last minute.
VapeWell
Well-Known Member
Many thanks, DVV! I’ll give those videos a look. Vapewell!
naddude
Member
(Too bad. What about concentrate pads? They are malleable and breathe?
I was going to try that. It works in other vapes.......
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
Thanks @Davinci_vaporizer for giving us a voice.
I think the New Vape Pax Pusher has the right idea. The ss pusher fits nicely in the oven and you unscrew until the attached screw hits the lid ensuring the pusher can’t move. I am able to do much smaller amounts with great clouds, effects and decent efficiency.
Edit: oops, missed this before posting
Lmk if you try it out.
I think the New Vape Pax Pusher has the right idea. The ss pusher fits nicely in the oven and you unscrew until the attached screw hits the lid ensuring the pusher can’t move. I am able to do much smaller amounts with great clouds, effects and decent efficiency.
Edit: oops, missed this before posting
That would probably work. I’ve never tried, although I feel like the flavor might get compromised a bit. I do like doing that with my Crafty.
Too bad. What about concentrate pads? They are malleable and breathe?
I was going to try that. It works in other vapes.......
Lmk if you try it out.
cpl5938
Well-Known Member
Some more observations...
I'm getting a little more than 15 minutes from the included batteries and a little more than 20 minutes from KeepPower 1200 mAh batteries off of Amazon. I put that down to my method, which is smart path 2 or 3, a hit or two and then turn the Miqro off. I did try just powerboost but it didn't improve the battery life.
I fill with what would be a little less than half a trench from a MFLB; I don't know what amount that would be but it's not a whole lot. I can get 10 hits from that, which is pretty good. Taste isn't bad throughout all of that even with turning the unit on and off.
I'm getting a little more than 15 minutes from the included batteries and a little more than 20 minutes from KeepPower 1200 mAh batteries off of Amazon. I put that down to my method, which is smart path 2 or 3, a hit or two and then turn the Miqro off. I did try just powerboost but it didn't improve the battery life.
I fill with what would be a little less than half a trench from a MFLB; I don't know what amount that would be but it's not a whole lot. I can get 10 hits from that, which is pretty good. Taste isn't bad throughout all of that even with turning the unit on and off.
OF
Well-Known Member
I did some digging on 'what is the best 18350 for this application a while back:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/davinci-miqro.30485/page-20#post-1359098
I got a lot of information from the e-cig guys, bought some and tested them for capacity. Those guys were measurably better. I didn't test the ones from Amazon, but would have expected guys like 'BatteryMooch' (an excellent resource in such things IMO, Google him?) would have reaching their conclusions. Always a risky thing, but one I was comfortable with.
I did find a lot of cells that said '1200mAh' on the outside that only tested around 900 as others have reported. IMO the factory choice is a good one with a modest improvement possible with careful selection. It's easy to do worse, difficult to do better. Trusting posted numbers is, for now, not to be trusted. Hey, you can buy 4000mAh 18650s 'all over the place'......only nobody can really make one that comes even close to that when tested......go figure.
OF
afternoontea
Well-Known Member
Hi everyone
First time posting, but been secretly reading up for a while!
Would firstly like to say thanks for all the advice, help & experiences offered by you all, so much great information!
Wondered if I could ask if anyone has any advice or ideas on some sort of dosing device to use with the Miqro?
I’ve only been vaping for about a year for a couple of long term health conditions.
I’m in the UK & don’t grow so limited to what strains I can find. I’m still experimenting with what works for me in terms of dosing to help me through the day with regards to pain, anxiety, mood & sleep.
What helps at the moment is 2 draws a few/couple of times a day as necessary of one strain, which allows me to stay fairly clear headed, but takes the edge off.
Some days I may only do this once or not at all.
In the evening I have about 4 draws from a different strain that helps me feel relaxed and therefore helps with sleep.
Again, some nights I may not vape at all.
The navapouch mentioned previously would possibly work for me but they don’t ship to the UK and they haven’t replied as to the likelihood of this in future.
So the ideal thing for me would be a capsule or basket type thing for ease of swapping between strains without dumping or wasting herb or trying to remember where I’m up to etc
Any suggestions will be gratefully appreciated
First time posting, but been secretly reading up for a while!
Would firstly like to say thanks for all the advice, help & experiences offered by you all, so much great information!
Wondered if I could ask if anyone has any advice or ideas on some sort of dosing device to use with the Miqro?
I’ve only been vaping for about a year for a couple of long term health conditions.
I’m in the UK & don’t grow so limited to what strains I can find. I’m still experimenting with what works for me in terms of dosing to help me through the day with regards to pain, anxiety, mood & sleep.
What helps at the moment is 2 draws a few/couple of times a day as necessary of one strain, which allows me to stay fairly clear headed, but takes the edge off.
Some days I may only do this once or not at all.
In the evening I have about 4 draws from a different strain that helps me feel relaxed and therefore helps with sleep.
Again, some nights I may not vape at all.
The navapouch mentioned previously would possibly work for me but they don’t ship to the UK and they haven’t replied as to the likelihood of this in future.
So the ideal thing for me would be a capsule or basket type thing for ease of swapping between strains without dumping or wasting herb or trying to remember where I’m up to etc
Any suggestions will be gratefully appreciated
OF
Well-Known Member
First off, howdy! Welcome to the Forum, lots of good folks around which I'm sure you know if you've been lurking.
Your situation is pretty common, I think. Often guys will save 'the second half' of the load for bedtime as it tends to have a higher concentration of the fractions with good effect there.
Unfortunately, this vape has no 'dosing capsules' offered. Given the oval shape it's not likely as is becoming common with round cross section vapes. Just wasn't on the list of features desired I guess. Even with such capsules, mixing strains doesn't work all that well IMO. Vapor often is 'recycled' several times on its way to you. Condensing and evaporating again and again. So unless you clean your vape you'll always get a mixture. As they say, "once you water your Scotch, all you can ever drink is Scotch and water"?
So I suggest a second vape, perhaps something like Fury2, which has capsules, and is very well received. Or something from Solo/Air/AgGo, also well liked for a long time, which uses inexpensive glass stems with bowls built in. They come with two stems (which alone would fix your problem very well) and more a cheap enough to stock up on.
Besides even the best vapes around should have a backup vape as would any mission critical piece of gear?
Best wishes at sorting it out, could be an adventure all it's own.
OF
VapeWell
Well-Known Member
Indeed, you absolutely need redundancy in any critical process that you're regularly relying on.
While still wet behind the ears, based on my brief experience with the mIQro, I believe it could serve admirably as your "day vape". With the pearl extended to the max, the amount of herb I can get in the oven is adequate for a couple hits as I'm leaving work, two on the walk, and a couple getting off the bus. Works for me! Good luck.
Vapewell!
While still wet behind the ears, based on my brief experience with the mIQro, I believe it could serve admirably as your "day vape". With the pearl extended to the max, the amount of herb I can get in the oven is adequate for a couple hits as I'm leaving work, two on the walk, and a couple getting off the bus. Works for me! Good luck.
Vapewell!
ive_ana
Well-Known Member
Got the Miqro yesterday! I wasn't really paying attention to how I had my mouth on the flat mouthpiece & the hot vapor burned my lip I'll be using the extended piece from now on. Regarding batteries. Does anyone have both KeepPower and Vapecell batteries? How do they compare, the same or is one better?
https://www.illumn.com/18350-keeppower-imr18350-1200mah-high-discharge-flat-top.html
https://www.18650batterystore.com/P...ctCode=Vapcell-18350-Battery-1100mah&CartID=1
https://www.illumn.com/18350-keeppower-imr18350-1200mah-high-discharge-flat-top.html
https://www.18650batterystore.com/P...ctCode=Vapcell-18350-Battery-1100mah&CartID=1