Custom Glass Ideas/Designs Thread

[Nugg]

Please excuse my crude drawing, not much to draw on at a building site other than timber lol.

This is what I meant with moving the joint higher. It means that the water level and top of the perc are still at the bottom of the mouthpiece conection and doesn't add anymore dry volume to the piece.

Unless that bit of extra dry volume would be good for vaping? Somewhere to build the hit up a bit.

What does everyone think?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Please excuse my crude drawing, not much to draw on at a building site other than timber lol.

This is what I meant with moving the joint higher. It means that the water level and top of the perc are still at the bottom of the mouthpiece conection and doesn't add anymore dry volume to the piece.

Unless that bit of extra dry volume would be good for vaping? Somewhere to build the hit up a bit.

What does everyone think?

Imo anything diffusion pump based should aim for as little dry volume as possible

 

[brucee10]

I was really hoping for a FC-UFO style diffusion pump. I just want a large base that is stable so I can serve as dab master while other people use the mouthpiece or a whip. Maybe the flat coil will work for me?

 

[shark sandwich]

Alright, I adjusted the drawing of the dp-twist to show less headspace, or dry volume, and sent it to Jane just now.

Jane says the dp-ufo can be produced, and work will begin on it when the dp-twist is complete!

Edit: @brucee10 The dp-ufo is the flat coil pump concept- design drawings are on the previous page of this thread. Of the three modified pump designs, I'm most excited about the dp-ufo. It's a novel design, so it's hard to envision the piece, but it will be super rad. It will aslo be very stable at 8 inches wide and only 5 inches tall, and it will look kind of like an actual ufo, like aliens drive.

 

[brucee10]

Alright, I adjusted the drawing of the dp-twist to show less headspace, or dry volume, and sent it to Jane just now.

Jane says the dp-ufo can be produced, and work will begin on it when the dp-twist is complete!

Edit: @brucee10 The dp-ufo is the flat coil pump design, pictures of it are on the previous page of this thread. Out of the three modified pump designs the dp-ufo is the one I'm most excited about. It's a novel design, so it's hard to envision the piece, but it will be super rad. It will be very stable at 8 inches wide and only 5 inches tall, and it will look kind of like an actual ufo, like aliens drive.

I think both of those are a sale to me, but the DP-UFO might be my grail.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Very cool designs @shark sandwich. I'll probably pick up the dp-twist (or dp-coil?) if it's reasonably priced. Looks like it can be a good flavor saver for flowers. A mix between a dry stem, and a higher diffusion bubbler, for log vapes.

I find that the e-nano dry stem produces denser clouds, and uses less herb, but is much harsher on the throat, so this should be a nice combination.

 

[BrotherJoseph]

How high would the water level have to be in the dp-coil for it to function properly? Will we be able to leave enough room in the top to milk the can? Or will this primarily be an oil rig?

 

[Delta3DStudios]

How high would the water level have to be in the dp-coil for it to function properly? Will we be able to leave enough room in the top to milk the can? Or will this primarily be an oil rig?

Water level needs to come up to almost the top of the coil (right to the bottom of the coil outlet). There is very minimal space in the can.

*However* I have no problem milking that tiny volume inside the can of my FC-710 with 0.1g of flower using my E-Nano vaporizer. So I'm not too worried about that aspect.

All I care about is that it has a damn female joint!

 

[shark sandwich]

The first sample of the dp-mini is complete! I've already asked Jane to change the mouthpiece so it joins the can at the top, like the fc-mini. Other than that, I think it looks good.

Edit: Steven/Jane want to know which design people here prefer- The dp-mini or the piece on the left. Please post if you have a preference!

 

[NorthernHuskie]

I personally like the dp-mini but I'd like the 14mm joint to have a little extra support. Im definitely more interested in the dp-twist however. If it comes into production id be sure to pick one up

 

[shark sandwich]

@NorthernHuskie

A joint support was included in the design, but not the prototype. I don't know why, but I will ask about that.

The dp-twist design requires both the banger hanger joint and a modified perc design, so construction of the dp-mini is the first step towards that. Jane says work on the dp-twist prototype will begin once the dp-mini design process is complete, which should be very soon!

 

[weenstoned]

Kinda wondering if the dp-mini won't be tippy. Definitely will have a lower water level than the fc-710, and I bet the base is lighter than the full water base of the 710. With the joint on one side instead of on top seems more likely to tip with a drop-down/e-nail attached. I am sure you will be able to position it various ways to make it not tip, but one of the things I like about the 710 is how it never tips no matter what direction the e-nail coil is going.

Still hate the name mini too considering it isn't mini.

 

[shark sandwich]

@weenstoned

I can ask about a wider base, it does look a little narrow. I use an e-nail with the ccg and kathy eggs, and the d-cycler, and it's never been a problem. A more standard width, extra thick base should provide good stability.

I chose to refer to this design as the dp-mini because it uses the body style of the fc-mini. I can't think of a more apt name for it, but I am open to using a better designation if we can come up with one.

Edit: I just messaged Jane to address the joint support and base width issues.

Also, @EverythingsHazy, Thanks! About the name:
dp-coil is more descriptive of the perc shape, but doesn't roll off the tongue as easily, I think. The dp-twist designation implies both the shape of the perc and the fact that it's a "twist" on the traditional pump, and it has a bit more of a ring to it.

 

[weenstoned]

dp-ship or dp-mother would be better names since they're not a reference to size. Just saying that there is a definite bias towards smaller pieces for dab rigs and someone might order the dp-mini assuming it is smaller than the 710 when in reality they're the same size or the mini is slightly taller. I would say that the design is sufficiently different that the name doesn't need to reference the mothership mini. Still don't really get why it needs to be a banger hanger as that just means you can use less water (more glass surface area for reclaim to build up on) and also will be less stable. That joint placement isn't that necessary with either the original 710 neck or the mini style neck.

 

[42]

With some of the cool designs coming through the works how about resurrecting the FC bubbler and branding one of the hot new designs.

 

[deltr0n]

Edit: Steven/Jane want to know which design people here prefer- The dp-mini or the piece on the left. Please post if you have a preference!

Definitely most interested in the middle one, but...

I may be alone in this, but I'd love to see a mouth piece sort of like the FC-710; joined at top back of can, but with something more similar to the bent neck on the right side piece in quoted picture, with the ridged mouth piece instead of a simple flared MP

 

[McQuack]

Edit: Steven/Jane want to know which design people here prefer- The dp-mini or the piece on the left. Please post if you have a preference!

I don't really like both designs. I would like to see it with the mouthpiece from the dcycler. Luigii posted a pic of it:

 

[jojo monkey]

I'd rather not have right angles and prefer the left one. I too want to see a ufo style.... I would buy a 18mm fem dp to get by.

 

[shark sandwich]

I just confirmed with Jane that the middle prototype will be going into production with the following changes- The neck position will be corrected, the joint will have a support, and the base will be widened. Work is beginning on first batch of 50 pieces, which means we should have a water test video soon, and will hopefully see a DP-TWIST prototype in the near future!



@weenstoned Part of the objective with these pieces is to make something new, and move away from straight copies of already marketed designs and branding. For that reason I don't think the mother or ship designations are a step in the right direction.

Also, a banger hanger is necessary for this design because it allows the use of a drop down, and a dewaar will not. If you look at the photo, both joints end up at the same height, but the DP-MINI gives more of horizontal distance between the joint and mouthpiece. The difference in dry volume is negligible, the fc-710 may even have more dry volume with the larger neck.

@deltr0n @McQuack - I designed the mouthpiece to be longer and more angled, but Jane said they were going to make the design a little shorter so it would be more proportional. A much larger or taller mouthpiece would be a step in a different direction as far as this design goes, and the manufacturer themselves wants to keep it short. The next prototype Jane is working on will be based on the FC-201, and will be an option if you want a bent neck mouthpiece.

@jojo monkey The DP-UFO is in the pipeline, and is the piece I'm most excited to see, but Jane said the DP-MINI and DP-TWIST must be made first. The DP-TWIST will be have 18mm female joint, but won't be available for a little while yet, so if you want a diffusion pump with that joint size ASAP, I recommend the fc-710 and a drop down adapter. Once the DP-MINI is available, you'll be able to use a drop down adapter with it as well.

 

[weenstoned]

The mini part comes from mothership mini. Don't really get why referencing mini is ok but mothership is not. I still think it should have a new name because it's not mini. Considering the only parts that really resemble the mini are the thick base and mouthpiece which I don't think mothership has a monopoly on.

I am not advocating for a dewar joint but one like the model on the left which still allows a drop down to be used. With regards to dry volume on the fc710 the reclaim doesn't really build up on the neck, just in the top of the can where there's no water. This area will be bigger if the joint comes out the front instead of the top.

 

[shark sandwich]

The "mini" comes from Steven's fc-mini, which in turn derives its name and shape from a piece made by another manufacturer. The "mothership" trade name should be treated with more deference than the word "mini". We're making new things instead of pursuing rote imitation, and that's more important than any name.

I did want the name of the piece to give a clue to its origins, but I can understand the appeal of a novel name. It should be something that's descriptive, maybe "Rattle Can" or "Rattle-Banger"?

A top mounted joint would make the piece more like the FC-710. Right now Steven sells at least six models with matrix percs, and only one diffusion pump perc. If there will be only two options available, those two options should be as distinct as possible, to maximize what variety is available in a very limited field.

 

[weenstoned]

Just saying that the reference to another piece is pointless when you have changed it enough that the reference to that piece no longer applies. I would have no problem with mini being in the name if it actually were mini. You don't need to give clues to an origin that is unrecognizable.

Plenty of people have said that they would get a female jointed 710. I still just think that the putting the joint in front will make it less stable for no reason when the mouthpiece is already far enough from the joint. Chances are most people will be using a banger or a drop down. I could see the point if more people used straight nails but those have mostly fallen out of style. I don't see the merit in having diverse pieces if they're going to be less functional for the sake of diversity.

 

[shark sandwich]

Have you used a ccg or kathy egg, or d-cycler with a drop down and e-nail? They all have joints out front, and they are all perfectly stable.

If you want an fc-710 with a female joint, just get the appropriate drop down and you're set.

I was never trying to make another diffusion pump copy. This design has been through many changes as I worked with people here and at the factory to make sure it would be as functional and pleasing as possible. The final piece is much different than what I had originally envisioned, but it's better for everyone.

Different pieces are useful in different ways, and now we'll have two wonderfully different and functional diffusion pump rigs available. I don't see any problem with that.

Edit: I don't want people to be confused about the size, so I'll send a request to Jane to have this piece listed as the fc-rattlecan. Thoughts?

 

[weenstoned]

Have used the kathy egg and cnmengen egg with an e-nail and depending on the direction the coil is facing it can be pretty unstable. Might not be a big deal to some, but considering this piece will be smaller than those so stability is a concern. When you can put the joint on top and be more stable and add more water seems like a no-brainer.

 

[DieHard]

Such a great time to be a Chinese glass blower.....all of this free R&D saves them loads of money in nonfunctional designs.