Custom Glass Ideas/Designs Thread

[Frederick McGuire]

Also, looks like there's potential for water to spill up and out the joint...

You'd want the bottom of the dropdown at least as high as the top of the slanted tube.

 

[shark sandwich]

I thought that might be an issue. I sent a revised version to Steven, shown below. Apologies for the quality.

 

[DieHard]

I thought that might be an issue. I sent a revised version to Steven, shown below. Apologies for the quality.

Looking better, but I think the can will still need to be a bit taller. This will leave some room for the bubbles to form and pop. Also, the top of the can is rounded on the 710. This definately affects the way the piece functions.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Looking better, but I think the can will still need to be a bit taller. This will leave some room for the bubbles to form and pop. Also, the top of the can is rounded on the 710. This definately affects the way the piece functions.

Agreed. Hell, let's skip the built in dropdown female and make it look like the OG D020 with an 18mm in the middle

 

[Cannabis Connoisseur]

Agreed. Hell, let's skip the built in dropdown female and make it look like the OG D020 with an 18mm in the middle

I like. I like. GO ON!! ​

 

[jojo monkey]

I'd go for a diffusion pump with a replaceable mouthpiece like the fc-ufo. This is much more flexible because I like turning the mouthpiece in many directions and replacing it with longer lengths as needed. Plus I love the big heavy can.

 

[Nugg]

My vote goes to a fc-ufo with changeable percs. Could have a matrix, diffusion pump, shower head or even a plain 3 hole diffuser.

 

[Zufi Raj]

FC1000/FC707

As (some of) you you know my FC 1000 broke at the neck.

Design weak point. However I was able to rig up temporary set up see pictures attached.





As you can see I have jammed in a 18.8mm elbow piece from Arizer EQ model. With this I have silicon tubing to straight connector and mouth piece.



Design works very well and with ash catchers at front looks beautiful.

My Suggestions as to improvements are as follows:

Suggestion 1. If you make a 18mm joint instead of mouthpiece directly opposite intake joint then you can have replaceable mouth pieces like you have designed for the UFO models.

Suggestion 2. For FC 707 make mouthpiece as thick as possible. And Add Ice pinches. Neck should be big enough for ice cubes. And quite a tall neck maybe another 20cm high.

Below ice pinches you could put a slitted dome. This keeps all the vapour in the main chamber.


I have communicated these ideas to Steven. And asked him what he thinks.

In my opinion if the changes happen, both will become BIG sellers. And also will stop a lot of breakages.

Any Thoughts...?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

My vote goes to a fc-ufo with changeable percs. Could have a matrix, diffusion pump, shower head or even a plain 3 hole diffuser.

Would you consider that distinct enough to be a different piece to the devastator clone?

The can is a bit taller, but aside from that they're pretty much the same?

 

[shark sandwich]

I've made a change to clean up the dp-mini design- now the stem protrudes from the side of the can similar to a propeller rig.

Steven asked me to post this design to gauge interest and determine if a batch should be made.

I know there's a lot of interest in seeing the diffusion pump perc in all kinds of pieces, but in this post I'm hoping to have interest voiced in this specific piece, because I'd really like to see it made. A picture of the revised design is below, as well as a picture that clarifies how the tubing will be routed from the joint to the perc. Again, apologies for the quality.

I know people are concerned about getting a drink with this design. I found two videos of the fc-710 with different water levels, both show splashing should not be a problem.

I think this would be a great piece, and I hope some folks agree!

 

[pacifica333]

I know people are concerned about getting a drink with this design. I found two videos of the fc-710 with different water levels, both show splashing should not be a problem.

I would like to see a piece like this, but it still seems flawed. The joint being lower than the water level of the piece is a problem, and the mouthpiece needs to still be adjusted to avoid splashback - either a different angle, or a taller can with the diffusion pump placed lower in the can. You must realize the FC-710 is a completely different MP to the one you posted, so I'm not sure why you are holding those video's up as evidence.

 

[shark sandwich]

I feel that as a small, handheld piece, the tendency if anything would be to hold it at a downward angle during use, making a steeper angle for the mouthpiece unnecessary.

I understand the fc-710has a much different mouthpiece- it's best used on a tabletop, where a mini style body is designed to be held in hand. I posted the videos because you can see the splashing is very minimal even in the lowest part of the mouthpiece tube, which is approximately where the base of the mini mouthpiece would be located as well. Splash will not go up the tube.

Also, it is okay that the joint is lower than the water level. Just like a hydratube, it will hold water as long you don't blow into it, which is a bad idea with most rigs.

 

[pacifica333]

it's best used on a tabletop, where a mini style body is designed to be held in hand.

IDK. The FC-710 is pretty hand-held sized if you ask me. If it has an enail, I want it on a table. If this is meant to be tiny, portable, etc, why remove the built-in quartz swing from the FC-MINI?

 

[shark sandwich]

The mouthpiece and joint spacing on the dp-mini is roughly the same as the fc-710, just moved lower and more centered relative the main can. It's a more efficient form factor, and I like it.

Why not have a form factor, perc, and aesthetic I enjoy all in one piece? Why not have the flexibility to use a torch or nail, or to have a rig small enough that you won't hesitate to take it with you?

I'm sure lots of people won't like this piece, but I'm hoping some people here do. If not, there's no need to complain, because it will never exist.

 

[DieHard]

The mouthpiece and joint spacing on the dp-mini is roughly the same as the fc-710, just moved lower and more centered relative the main can. It's a more efficient form factor, and I like it.

Why not have a form factor, perc, and aesthetic I enjoy all in one piece? Why not have the flexibility to use a torch or nail, or to have a rig small enough that you won't hesitate to take it with you?

I'm sure lots of people won't like this piece, but I'm hoping some people here do. If not, there's no need to complain, because it will never exist.

The important thing to consider first is the function. If it has to be tilted back and hand held to function properly, I pass. This perc needs a small amount of "headroom" to function properly. Why not adjust the mouthpiece so that it is vertical before the bend in the neck. Or adjust the can so that the MP attaches well above the top of the slant cut in the perc tube. This will prevent splash back better. Personally, I kind of liked the perc coming out the top. The water level would not be likely to flood the dropdown portion because it has to go up and over the top of the can.

 

[shark sandwich]

I designed this piece for function. I don't think a steeper mouthpiece is necessary for preventing splash, or that splash would be a problem with this design even when used at level. Splashing with this perc is really minimal.

The water will not flow out the joint. In a hydratube, all the water is above the joint, and it works fine.

 

[DieHard]

 

[Frederick McGuire]

Honestly, if that replaced the 710, and my 710 broke, I wouldn't replace it.

As it stands now if my 710 broke I would replace it before the glass stopped bouncing...

That dropdown just looks like it's asking for trouble.

It won't need to be blown into, simply tipping it too far forward looks like it would make a waterfall shoot out of the joint...
And then you'd get a siphon effect and loose 1/2 of the water in the piece...
I like that dropdown type thingy on the donut, but Imo it just doesn't work on the 710...

I'm not necessarily against the straight mouthpiece, but again, I think it doesn't really add much to the design, and it potentially makes the function worse...


Imo the only changes I'd want to see are:
Just swap out the 14mm male joint for a 18mm female. Not dewaar, no changing the can, just 18mm female.

Maybe swap out the bubble bottom for a thick base, but I'm not too fussed...

I'd much rather have either;
The slightly bigger diffy pump bub,
The full size diffy pump tube,
Or another one of the new designs steven is designing, than a modified 710...

 

[weenstoned]

Ya honestly the FC-710 is basically perfect, but if mine broke I would replace it with a female version. Doesn't need a thick base as it is plenty stable as is imo. If anything that revised version with the thick base might be tippier as the water filled base is pretty stable.

But ya would much rather have the full size diffy pump tube.

 

[Nugg]

Would you consider that distinct enough to be a different piece to the devastator clone?

The can is a bit taller, but aside from that they're pretty much the same?

The devistator looked pretty small in the photos I saw? Maybe I didn't look close enough.

Was the devistator going to have multiple different stems/percs or was it just a removable stem with an ash catcher?

To answer your question it probably wouldn't be different enough to warrant being its own piece. Not when there are plenty of other designs we want built.

 

[Frederick McGuire]

The devistator looked pretty small in the photos I saw? Maybe I didn't look close enough.

Was the devistator going to have multiple different stems/percs or was it just a removable stem with an ash catcher?

To answer your question it probably wouldn't be different enough to warrant being its own piece. Not when there are plenty of other designs we want built.

Yeah, the devastator looked too small and I told steven it needed to be a bit bigger.

I haven't heard back from him regarding it for a few weeks so I should probably ask him how it's coming along.

I think the donut dropdown, binary matrix, and Taurus are all taking time so the devastator is a bit on the back burner.

The initial plans for the devastator was to just be:
Base + ash catcher, with removable percs and mouthpiece.
(Edit: removable percs being interchangeable between the base and A/C)

Then later more percs can be made
(Matrix, tree, diffusion pump, reti, 1/2/3/whatever holes, anything that would fit).

And then maybe some proper full size hydratubes to act as mouthpieces.

I just kinda figured all those options at once could be a bit much to ask steven to produce, so I figured a base devastator would be an appropriate start, and then additional accessories could be made for it based on popularity.

IMO it hits most of the points the FC-UFO hits, and can potentially offer a lot of versatility to us...

I could see it almost replacing the
FC-ufo (base unit with showerhead is basically the same)
FC-710 (base unit with diffusion pump would be basically the same)
FC-187 (base unit with a matrix Perc and sideways mouthpiece would be very similar)
D022 (showerhead ash catcher and 3 hole diffy base would be similar)
FC-mini (base with showerhead and a honeybucket would be similar)

Given all the different levels of diffusion it can potentially provide, I'm honestly surprised more people aren't interested some form of the devastator or another...

It's right up there as one of my most anticipated releases ATM...
Of the pieces I listed above that I think steven is working on, the only one I more interested in than a devastator is the binary matrix, but that's more just curiosity as to whether I'll like the function enough to have to get an official möbius one

TL/DR:
IMO the devastator offers the most versatility of just about any setup I can think of, and should be one of the most universally desirable pieces we've designed.

I could see it being very popular with combusters too...

 

[GSH]

Honestly, if that replaced the 710, and my 710 broke, I wouldn't replace it.

As it stands now if my 710 broke I would replace it before the glass stopped bouncing...

That dropdown just looks like it's asking for trouble.

It won't need to be blown into, simply tipping it too far forward looks like it would make a waterfall shoot out of the joint...
And then you'd get a siphon effect and loose 1/2 of the water in the piece...
I like that dropdown type thingy on the donut, but Imo it just doesn't work on the 710...

I'm not necessarily against the straight mouthpiece, but again, I think it doesn't really add much to the design, and it potentially makes the function worse...


Imo the only changes I'd want to see are:
Just swap out the 14mm male joint for a 18mm female. Not dewaar, no changing the can, just 18mm female.

Maybe swap out the bubble bottom for a thick base, but I'm not too fussed...

I'd much rather have either;
The slightly bigger diffy pump bub,
The full size diffy pump tube,
Or another one of the new designs steven is designing, than a modified 710...

I would also maybe suggest angling the mouthpiece a bit more vertical. The mouthpiece on the FC-710 currently is a bit too horizontal for me and I have to bend down to hit it properly. Doesn't need to have such a a severe bend in the mouthpiece tube IMO.

 

[jojo monkey]

@Frederick McGuire

I tossed every accessory that came with the fc-ufo. I hope he can sell the can separately. I don't need an ash catcher or the mouthpiece. I can live with the male joint for the mouthpiece, but would rather have a female joint like the fc-ufo.

I can't imagine the diffusion pump for the devastator will be very big? This is why I'd rather see a fc-ufo-like diffusion pump, something that takes up most of the space in the can.

I like your idea of how flexible the devastator clone could be. The problem is that it copying parts I don't want. How about getting a really nice can design rather than a complete piece?

I guess I don't understand why a person would want a hydro tube if the vapor already ran though a perc? Water robs flavor, right?

 

[Frederick McGuire]

@Frederick McGuire

I tossed every accessory that came with the fc-ufo. I hope he can sell the can separately. I don't need an ash catcher or the mouthpiece. I can live with the male joint for the mouthpiece, but would rather have a female joint like the fc-ufo.

I can't imagine the diffusion pump for the devastator will be very big? This is why I'd rather see a fc-ufo-like diffusion pump, something that takes up most of the space in the can.

I like your idea of how flexible the devastator clone could be. The problem is that it copying parts I don't want. How about getting a really nice can design rather than a complete piece?

I guess I don't understand why a person would want a hydro tube if the vapor already ran though a perc? Water robs flavor, right?

The whole point of the devastator is to be modular...

You don't need to use a ht if you don't want to.

I have asthma, diffusion helps, I like options.

Frankly, the whole "too much diffusion for vapor" thing annoys me quite a bit.
It's a personal preference thing.
For me, yes, adding a hydratube would smooth the hit out more.

I'm not quite 100% understanding you on the diffusion pump thing.
The whole point of that perc is to kinda ignore the main can size - it only considers the perc and dry area above it...

I would concede that a diffusion pump in the devastator would be odd, but it's more of a "why the hell not" option once new percs are being made for it.
The devastator has a massive joint at the top (~40-50mm), which is meant to be enough room to fit any desired percs down there...


My thought was that the devastator would be available as base only, a/c only, and as a combo deal at a slight discount, but that would really be up to steven how he wanted to package it.

I'd think the base alone would be a relatively popular bubbler on its own, and the ac would be fairly popular on its own (possibly a good opportunity to get steven to make a jhook we'd like), it just seems like a really sound way to go Imo.

I personally wouldn't need an extra mouthpiece, I could see it being a purchase option to add the mouthpiece etc

The male mouthpiece joint has 2 reasons:
The main one is that it's meant for hydratubes, and copying the original design.
The secondary reason comes back to something I believe @Ratchett has spoken about relating to his preferences on the inlet joint - vapor should flow OUT of male joints and INTO female joints.
This keeps the joints at their cleanest as there is no buildup on the ground portion of the male joint.

I'm sure it's not much of a problem in the FC-ufo, so I assume it's not as much of an issue at the mouthpiece joint when compared to the inlet joint, but I still think it's a valid design item to consider...

 

[jojo monkey]

Ok, sold! Thanks for the awesome reply!