Concentrates for Noobs - Q&A

DabComa

Stuck in Dab Coma
A local chain beauty supply store around my area, cant think of the name right now for some reason, carries 99% real cheap in something close to or maybe a little more then 1 liter bottles. I would look around at some beauty supply stores in your area I'm sure they would carry the same products, they use it for cleaning up so I'm sure they will have it.

And no their is no fragrance, or anything added.
 
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bloop

New Member
I have found cheap 99% ISO at places like Rite-Aid/Wal-Greens , neighborhood type pharmacy stores. They are usually in the first-aid section and like $2 for 16oz.
 
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Crohnie

Crohn's Warrior
Been living in Colorado for 2 months and just tried my first hash oil that wasn't diluted with glycerin, propylene glycol, etc. I have a pretty high tolerance, but DAMN! This stuff is good. :freak: Now I'm curious to try some wax. :evil:


I really do feel like the proverbial kid in a candy shop. Quite a nice feeling considering the fact that I'm really a middle aged man with Crohn's disease. :myday:
 

lonelyhero

the lost soul
Company Rep
ive been making qwet for a while now but im about to hit some uncharted territory im getting an 8th of hash and wondering whats the best way for me to go about dissolving it into everclear to filter it and get a more vape friendly product also what type of return should i get from hash?
 
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mixchu69

Well-Known Member
Since this is the newbie section, what is bubble hash and how is it vaporized? I see that it is sifting using a micron bag to get the trich. off.

Why can't I find it at dispensaries? The bud tenders always have a puzzled look when I ask.
 
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DrRishi

Well-Known Member
Since this is the newbie section, what is bubble hash and how is it vaporized? I see that it is sifting using a micron bag to get the trich. off.
Bubble hash in the best case is pure trichomes pressed together. When I make bubble I use the ice water method and a series of (bubble) bags which filter out all the non trichome matter. This gives a very high quality hash with very little plant matter. The only down side I see to bubble is how to consume it. Although it is very "clean" there is still some plant matter in bubble hash which means that most forms of vapourisation are not suitable as it does leave some residue behind which tends to clog up coils and leave stains on a titanium nail.
I usually make a little sandwich in one of my arizer vapes. First a little bud, then some bubble and then some more bud to cover it up.
 

thisperson

Ruler of all things person
Since this is the newbie section, what is bubble hash and how is it vaporized? I see that it is sifting using a micron bag to get the trich. off.

Why can't I find it at dispensaries? The bud tenders always have a puzzled look when I ask.

Bubble Hash is ice water hash and that is not vaped. It is smoked. It's trichomes washed in water then filtered. Good concentrate if you don't want to smoke wax (because of solvents or strength or whatever)

If you want vapable material, you should look for BHO (Butane Hash Oil) or QWISO (Quick Wash ISOpropyl). BHO is what's most common around my parts. Bud Tenders may not know if I asked for QWISO.

BUdder, Wax, Crumble, Shatter. It's all just a description about the state it's in. BHO or QWISO is the production method.

Hope this helps.
 

kazz

Little Lebowski Urban Achiever
Bubble Hash is ice water hash and that is not vaped. It is smoked. It's trichomes washed in water then filtered. Good concentrate if you don't want to smoke wax (because of solvents or strength or whatever)

If you want vapable material, you should look for BHO (Butane Hash Oil) or QWISO (Quick Wash ISOpropyl). BHO is what's most common around my parts. Bud Tenders may not know if I asked for QWISO.

BUdder, Wax, Crumble, Shatter. It's all just a description about the state it's in. BHO or QWISO is the production method.

Hope this helps.



Very nice description!
 
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thisperson

Ruler of all things person
I'm sorry, but you can absolutely vaporize Bubble Hash.

It took me a while but you are right. It is vapable. In a convection vape. I used some in my flowermate and it left me wanting more power in my vape. I bet household units or good portables can do it.

My experience mainly includes coils and nails. So that's what I jump to when I think vape.
 
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amberevil

Well-Known Member
Yep bubble has is definitely vapable, its just not usual dabable. You guys are talking about the difference from full melt, like bho, that will melt to nothing(no ash) and non-full melt, like most bubble, that will leave ash behind like buds. But people been vaping buds for a long time too.

If you are so lucky to find a full melt bubble, you should try it. It will probably be labled ice wax, full melt hash, or soulventless wax.
 

CharSadehBeast

Well-Known Member
I have gone through many grams of wax using my Dr Dabber pen/atomizer but have never experienced a dab off an oil rig. One of the local dispensaries offered, enthusiastically, to use their oil rig but due to my low tolerance levels I have passed on their offer. How much more potent is a dab off an oil rig vs a simple e-cig pen/atty using the same amount of wax?
 
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Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
Is there a limit to the number of grams of oil that can be carried in say a single 1/5th of 190 EC qwet?
 
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Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
Maybe I should ask in the qwet thread?, from my searches, there does not seem to be an easy answer here so maybe I should rephrase it.

What's the recommended max amount of herb that should be used in a 1/5th of 190 EC wash?

Is "just enough" to cover the herb, the general rule?

Do you lightly wring out your soaked herbs by hand or just let it strain with gravity?

Anyone try a salad spinner?
 
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Monsoon

Well-Known Member
Maybe I should ask in the qwet thread?, from my searches, there does not seem to be an easy answer here so maybe I should rephrase it.

What's the recommended max amount of herb that should be used in a 1/5th of 190 EC wash?

Is "just enough" to cover the herb, the general rule?

Do you lightly wring out your soaked herbs by hand or just let it strain with gravity?

Anyone try a salad spinner?
The way I do it is to use enough to cover the herb and shake the jar vigorously. I then dump everything in a strainer over a bowl and press it down with an ice cream scoop. I also pour extra alcohol over it after to increase my yield.
 

amberevil

Well-Known Member
@Joel W. I feel you. You are wondering if there is a saturation point in which the alcohol is holding so much oil that it can pick any more up. I actually remember reading about it somewhere online, but I dont remember the conclusion or where that was. Im sorry but thats why I havent chimed in.
 

Joel W.

Deplorable Basement Dweller
Accessory Maker
Yes, thanks @amberevil, I was worried I might be over saturating it and leaving some behind as I did not want to do a second wash. I found a good debate on the issue on another site, which had a lot of confusing conversions, but boiled down to possible ratios as high as 1:1 with EC.

But ya, I basically want to not do a second wash if I can, unless it is just poured over like @Monsoon suggested.
 
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herbivore21

Well-Known Member
@Joel W. I feel you. You are wondering if there is a saturation point in which the alcohol is holding so much oil that it can pick any more up. I actually remember reading about it somewhere online, but I dont remember the conclusion or where that was. Im sorry but thats why I havent chimed in.
I've mentioned this a few times around here, there is a point where a given amount of solvent cannot dissolve more material, I have run into this issue extensively lol, you will generally end up with already washed flowers that seem super fragrant still if this happens or a buildup somewhere in your filters (depending on your technique) ;)
 
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530rasta

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Its called quick wash for a reason, ideally you want to have the bud in the iso no more than 5 seconds. Poor in, shake, dump....boil off and enjoy heavy medicine that looks like jolly ranchers...

Fwiw I don't partake in iso, but did make it years ago, was very powerful
 
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Monsoon

Well-Known Member
Its called quick wash for a reason, ideally you want to have the bud in the iso no more than 5 seconds. Poor in, shake, dump....boil off and enjoy heavy medicine that looks like jolly ranchers...

Fwiw I don't partake in iso, but did make it years ago, was very powerful
If everything is cold you can push it higher. For me usually start of pour to dump is around 40 seconds with no ill effects. I also use a 0.02 micron filter so that helps clean it up a bit too.
 
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PPN

Volute of Vapor
Hi, maybe this is not the better place to post about this topic but I would like to know if you prefer:

-to let the carb cap on the nail until the t° stabilized before to dab
-to set your e-nail a bit higher to compensate the cold carb cap

I always used for the first way although I'm thinking the 2nd way could be nice to start at lower temp and finish a bit higher so you can get the better taste and clouds in the same hit!

Guys, what do you think?
 
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