Concentrates for Noobs - Q&A

[DieHard]

sorry didnt mean to sound so bent over it. lol
anyway
I had some lemon kush do that a while back. I just went with it and let it be cloudy. I was fucking with a Pyrex chamber instead of the ss/ti had my temps wonky.

so whats with the cold purging? I see cats pulling these hard waxxes and crumble that looks like candy. they all say they cold purge... I did it on accident one night when I forgot to set the timer on the heat source. woke up to a nifty honeycomb... but further heat and vac purged after
@DieHard you ever done a cold purge?

Way, way back several years ago I would purge by putting my Pyrex on a ziplock bag full of hot water and let it sit overnight. I have not tried anything that would qualify as cold lately. Are we talking room temp? With or without vac? I'm down to try for science sake!

 

[farscaper]

@DieHard
id think they are doing a room temp vacuum purge.

I will try a very small run.

id think it would take substantialy longer...

now, I already do the first pull at basically room temp but never exceeding 100°F and take it to 28.5 until serious activity slows and then close it off at 20 to 25. then I typically work at around a stable 100 to 110°F.

so im really wondering.... what does define a cold purge.... how cold is to cold to purge... maybe 90° is a cold purge.... or 80?

im gonna actually look into it some more.

lol I just need someone to be a little more upfront about exactly what I need to achieve the clear extract product. I know its a form of distillation... lol but every time I mention more lab equipment I get the stank eye!





edit: @NickDlow try putting your chamber in a pan of water and heat the water.

with thin walled aluminum chambers lack is thermal mass. so the temperature fluctuates more rapidly.

if thats what your trying to do... we are actually discussing cold purge now.

 

[krusht]

But butane is colorless and odorless isn't it?

not odorless - just inhale over your plate - you could pass out!

 

[farscaper]

not odorless - just inhale over your plate - you could pass out!

no... your smelling butanethiol
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butanethiol

not butane
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butane

and there are a number of colorless odorless gasses that will make you pass out and die when inhaled....

I do not advised directly inhaling evaporating solvents... of any kind.

 

[NickDlow]

Thanks @farscaper will try when I run some BHO next time.

Anybody have and experience with "RAW Unrefined Parchment Paper"? I know raw rolling papers are good shit!! Currently I'm use regular white parchment paper I'm sure it would be better if not the same. It's costing $7.50 a roll if u buy a 6 roll box so it not expensive either. Any thoughts and/or opinions would help thanks ppls

 

[dabselector]

Thanks @farscaper will try when I run some BHO next time.

Anybody have and experience with "RAW Unrefined Parchment Paper"? I know raw rolling papers are good shit!! Currently I'm use regular white parchment paper I'm sure it would be better if not the same. It's costing $7.50 a roll if u buy a 6 roll box so it not expensive either. Any thoughts and/or opinions would help thanks ppls

No matter the bleached parchment or not. it is always covered with a thin silicone layer. paper is not in contact with oil

 

[farscaper]

Thanks @farscaper will try when I run some BHO next time.

Anybody have and experience with "RAW Unrefined Parchment Paper"? I know raw rolling papers are good shit!! Currently I'm use regular white parchment paper I'm sure it would be better if not the same. It's costing $7.50 a roll if u buy a 6 roll box so it not expensive either. Any thoughts and/or opinions would help thanks ppls

I haveva buddy that uses raw all the time. works fine.

I used to use white parchment but ive switched to the new 100% ptfe oil slick sheets myself. they are truly the tits.

I never buy or use razors now... I never scrape.

 

[NickDlow]

So the pfte is ok to blast into? I know ppl were saying not to do that with parchment or the silicone pads.

 

[farscaper]

So the pfte is ok to blast into? I know ppl were saying not to do that with parchment or the silicone pads.

ptfe is safe due to the fact that it does not react with butane.

professional closed loop extraction equipment uses ptfe seals as well.

ptfe:
Polytetrafluoroethylene
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene

silicone is highly reactive with butane. so to be able to use parchment or slickpads you should have the vast majority of solvent out of your extract before transfering to parchment or silicone pad

 

[NickDlow]

Is the pfte more like paper or a mat?

 

[farscaper]

Is the pfte more like paper or a mat?

neither. its like panda film...

its like a 6mil plastic sheet or film.
both of these are on slick sheets

you can see in the first photo just how transparent they are. these are not the original slick sheet that were woven... these are a solid sheet of plastic.

 

[Bouldorado]

ptfe is safe due to the fact that it does not react with butane.

professional closed loop extraction equipment uses ptfe seals as well.

ptfe:
Polytetrafluoroethylene
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene

silicone is highly reactive with butane. so to be able to use parchment or slickpads you should have the vast majority of solvent out of your extract before transfering to parchment or silicone pad

where'd you get your ptfe sheets from? I really like the idea of not having to scrape

 

[farscaper]

where'd you get your ptfe sheets from? I really like the idea of not having to scrape

ebay. I will edit this post when I find the link.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/161222494955

and I will order from them again. its the best price ive found

 

[TeeJay1952]

http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Slick-Non...d_sbs_k_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=0MTQH9BC3ZMPH80G298G
is another option

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWK04IQ/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item

is $17.

 

[farscaper]

http://www.amazon.com/Oil-Slick-Non...d_sbs_k_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=0MTQH9BC3ZMPH80G298G
is another option

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWK04IQ/ref=pe_385040_30332200_TE_item

is $17.

but shipping is only free if you buy 35$ worth. I was originally gonna pick it up there too... til I checked ebay.

the link I provided is $20 free shipping

just saying. but either way you should be getting the most updated model

 

[Caligula]

Amazon Prime free 2 day shipping FTW.

 

[NickDlow]

Order has been placed!! Lol do u just cut it to size? Also how flexable is it? As far as doin the fold n peel shit

 

[farscaper]

Order has been placed!! Lol do u just cut it to size? Also how flexable is it? As far as doin the fold n peel shit

what are you purging on it... solvent wise?

 

[NickDlow]

KX and butane sometimes

 

[FlyingLow]

Amazon Prime free 2 day shipping FTW.

Prime is the tits!

It is like Netflix, with more movies, plus free shipping on anything on Amazon.

 

[farscaper]

KX and butane sometimes

I will say there is a little playing with it when directly spraying onto it. mainly finding a dish thats not too big. ive been using it as a liner for smaller pyrex 7cup round or 3 cup rectangle.

you do not want too big of a dish because it will be too difficult to collect... I suggest a 8x8 piece. cause the roll is 16 wide.

I like to let it evap ar room temp saving terps early. then after you can pull the sheet without oil sliding off move it to the chamber and pull a full vac... which is basically cold purge at 73°F.

after that the fold and peel works pretty good. in the first few tries it can be a little sticky til you get the solvent from both sides exposed to the air............

if it sticks I usually just set it on something cold and that does the trick.

sorry... very stoned atm.

 

[TeeJay1952]

.Life on internet is great. @2clicker is talking about a screen.I highlight gold tone" coffee filter and search Google. First hit is Amazon 4.95 free delivery. I have my Coin-star give me yearly Amazon credit account. 15 seconds after I read note, stuff being sent to my house. I have Prime.

 

[spoutti]

I haveva buddy that uses raw all the time. works fine.

I used to use white parchment but ive switched to the new 100% ptfe oil slick sheets myself. they are truly the tits.

I never buy or use razors now... I never scrape.

Quick newb question here. Did you actually used a razor blade to scrape your parchment paper?

I was using the handle tip of a spoon to scrape. And I had to use a lot of pressure to scrape my trim qwet. I was quite surprised at the parchment paper toughness. But a razor blade on it!? Maybe I underestimated by quite a bit its strenth..

Btw, I put my order trough for the silicon heating pads with keenovo through ebay. Good personnalized service. I went for 2 80W pads for 2 square pyrex dishes. I will add dimmers and I will have a good control over temperature. No more 24+ hours of purging.

As for vaping my 1st concentrates exp. Im quite satisfied so far with my solo. I heat my "what I think is" shatter with my fingers and stretch it. Then, I weave it on the cotton ball like a pretzel solo bowl size. The hypothesis is to expose as much of the shatter surface to give fewer bigger coulds. And I think a glob simply wrapped in cotton will give more thinner clouds. I want big clouds .

And I did put 0.15g one time. Over 1h of clouds!!! It had been quite a while I was high like that. The next day, I felt similar to the day after binging on weed brownies. I still need to experiment with it a lot. Like trying the degummed hemp fiber instead of cotton. Probably a persei(or 8?) too.

I dont remember if I already said it, but you guys made all this possible for me. I really appreciate all your inputs.

 

[NickDlow]

Thanks @farscaper I do have a pretty small Pyrex. I believe it is a 3 cup rectangular dish. I've never blasted tane on anything besides Pyrex I'm pretty excited to try this out.

 

[farscaper]

Quick newb question here. Did you actually used a razor blade to scrape your parchment paper?

I was using the handle tip of a spoon to scrape. And I had to use a lot of pressure to scrape my trim qwet. I was quite surprised at the parchment paper toughness. But a razor blade on it!? Maybe I underestimated by quite a bit its strenth..
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no I think you just misunderstood.

razors for scraping oil off glass then transferring to parchment. there should becno reason to scrape parchment.

the ptfe replaces the razors because it can be in direct contact with butane without any adverse effects.