Concentrates for Noobs - Q&A

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
I did not realize how much this thread has aged... Hash Rosin tech was not even established at the time of the original post.

Glass has also evolved so much, with the specific application of oil rigs.
Quartz has also gone through its own steps. From simple nails and bangers, to the slurpers and blenders you see today.
 

Flotsam

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I did not realize how much this thread has aged... Hash Rosin tech was not even established at the time of the original post.

Glass has also evolved so much, with the specific application of oil rigs.
Quartz has also gone through its own steps. From simple nails and bangers, to the slurpers and blenders you see today.
Newbie question here. What is a slurper and blender? Do we have a picture
 

Grass Yes

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Newbie question here. What is a slurper and blender? Do we have a picture
All slurpers are based on JP Toro's Terp Slurper. They have a dish with intakes where you load your dab and a thin column. A blender is basically a slurper with a wide column. Easier to clean and allows you to use pearls.

Pretty easy to find pictures online but VGW has lots of both styles.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Yes and there are hybrids in between, as I said the blenders I'm using have side slits where the dish meets the other part, more like a slurper (I've actually never used a blender with the tracks on the bottom dish for the airflow intake) and there are also control tower slurpers that are different, they only use pillars, standard slurpers use both pillars and pearls, all using top marble cap
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
The only blenders I've had did have the side slits in the bottom plate, and I like them.

Like this:
14mm-male-quartz-blender-banger-30394100940997_1200x.jpg


I feel like I'm able to vaporize more of the concentrate with less waste than a banger.
 

ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
The only blenders I've had did have the side slits in the bottom plate, and I like them.

Like this:
14mm-male-quartz-blender-banger-30394100940997_1200x.jpg


I feel like I'm able to vaporize more of the concentrate with less waste than a banger.
Dude, nice to see you still here! 👍

Thx for the post - answers more Q than you’d believe
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
The only blenders I've had did have the side slits in the bottom plate, and I like them.

Like this:
14mm-male-quartz-blender-banger-30394100940997_1200x.jpg


I feel like I'm able to vaporize more of the concentrate with less waste than a banger.

Yeah this is what I was referring to as the bottom slit tracking, side slits is actually not this to me, because the slits are on the bottom here... Side slits is the kind I have, that is more like a slurper, combined with a blender style... Better words maybe lol I thought I shared photos of mine here but can't remember now, image hosting harder
 
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FlyingLow

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How much life do you all get out of your quartz?
What is normal?


I go anywhere between 4-18 months before I start to fog up, using primarily round bottom bangers.
 
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Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
How much life do you all get out of your quartz?
What is normal?


I go anywhere between 4-18 months before I start to fog up, using primarily round bottom bangers.

We're using different setups of course, but I haven't tossed any yet... Much easier to keep them clean with dunking now, wish I did that from the beginning so they wouldn't be stained partially some! (I've also heard there are ways to clear up that fogging with something like dark crystal perhaps)
 
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FlyingLow

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I have been putting in time with a blender setup. There was a learning curve as I have not ever hit anything but tradtional bangers and quartz castles. I started out trying to heat all the quartz evenly, I don't think that was ideal. Hits are too hot, vaporize well before climbing the wall. Now I am just heating the vertical tube, and the bottom dish melts the material into the tube instead of vaporizing.


The retailer tossed me a dozen long-stemmed Glob Mops with the blender order and FUCK. I really did not want to like these but they are a great product! 7" long with hard pointed cotton on one end and a fat cotton swab, thick and over an inch long on the other side. I go through thousands of Qtips and cannot afford to use these, but damn I like em!
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
There was a learning curve as I have not ever hit anything but tradtional bangers and quartz castles. I started out trying to heat all the quartz evenly, I don't think that was ideal. Hits are too hot, vaporize well before climbing the wall. Now I am just heating the vertical tube, and the bottom dish melts the material into the tube instead of vaporizing.

Nice, yeah that main middle tube is what you want to heat primarily, I hate the bottom and even the neck a little bit too, but that whole tube more so towards the bottom as you've discovered yep... Glad you are enjoying a new method!

PS I started to research quartz castle, I don't know what is so beneficial about it? It is different from a hot knot diamond skillet apparently, but I'm not sure it is actually so good...? Maybe I'll try someday, certainly the ones from China look worse than the real thing I've noticed lol
 
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Rodney

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What is best


or is this better?


Seems like this will be a 1 thing so maybe the bags would be better.

Oh I notice these bags are only 1 gallon so maybe get bigger 5 gallon ones.
 
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LesPlenty

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I got the washing machine and 5 gallon bags,
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I am still learning/experimenting, the above is still in the freezer and below is some old stuff from the freezer I just pressed,
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It would be a lot of work if it was not a hobby... a fun way to cool down on a hot day.:tup:
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
kinda agree. The amount of time and work that goes into making product is beyond "hobbyist."

Pressing raw flower, on average, I can take my time and spend an hour start to finish: cutting paper to fit the press and cutting 2 bags down to size, de-stemming, bottle tech packing the bags. The press itself is only a couple minutes, then collect the drips and add a cold plate if necessary. It is about an hour that I prefer not be interrupted.

Making hash, that is exponentially more of a time commitment.
 

bizwaxzion

Enigmatic Cannabist
What is best


or is this better?


Seems like this will be a 1 thing so maybe the bags would be better.

Oh I notice these bags are only 1 gallon so maybe get bigger 5 gallon ones.
If you are going to make bubble hash I recommend a washer. It's already a considerable amount of work to make and the washer takes a lot of the manual work out. Takes me around 4 hours to wash a half a pound (4 washes) from setup to cleanup. I do full spectrum 45u - 159u single collection so I only use 3 bags (190 catch, 160 and 45) and I don't usually collect much from the 160 bag. I will sometimes press bubble hash unless I smoke it all. Pressing raw flower actually takes me longer, around 2 hours to press 3 oz, but I prefer to make edibles from rosin over bubble hash and there is less cleanup when pressing.

Neither of these activities make any sense unless you simply love cannabis or want to brag about being single source :cool:
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
I'm less and less into the Blender. Not yet determined if I just don't like the design or because I cheaped out with cheapo/thin quartz that may not hold temps well. In any scenario, I definitely get milkier and more precise hits/temps with my old bangers and caps.

I guess I'll explore it a little further and try to dial it in, but not over the moon about this setup.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I'm less and less into the Blender. Not yet determined if I just don't like the design or because I cheaped out with cheapo/thin quartz that may not hold temps well. In any scenario, I definitely get milkier and more precise hits/temps with my old bangers and caps.

I guess I'll explore it a little further and try to dial it in, but not over the moon about this setup.

Yeah sounds like there are a lot of variables, so tricky to know, but try something else!?
 
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ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
Here’s a basic question:

I got some high-end live resin…
the package says “whip before use”

How do I do that?
 
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ClearBlueLou

unbearably light in the being....
There is not, thanks for asking…looks like a partially melted sugar drop, light tan/orange? Dry, no depression.

If whip just means ‘stir it up’, I can do that

Planning to use it in Dynacoil/vap
 

General Disaster

Of cabbages and Kings.
While I have little experience with live extracts, I suspect the main effect of mechanical agitation is to change the consistency of the mixture. A complex mixture of related organic compounds like this will have all sorts of possible states depending on the exact mix of which compounds. Some are liquid at room temp, some are solid, and many will mix/dissolve in the others. The smallest change of temperature and/or the constituents will change it's appearance and state between liquid and solid.

The stirring is a wet lab technique to promote crystallisation of one (or more) compounds mixed/dissolved in others, and this will change it's state.
If one primary component of the mix starts to crystallise out that may release another compound from the matrix of mixed substances, allowing it to pool as a separated liquid ("the terpenes coming out").

I may be wrong, but it certainly appears very much the same process. It's purely a physical state, not a change of chemistry, and it's not drying it out as such (although roughening the surface will slightly increase evaporation of the more volatile compounds), there's no water or other liquid vanishing magically from it.
It won't 'repair' a degraded sample by undoing chemical breakdown, but it may present an nicer experience if it allows terpenes etc to be more appreciated by allowing them to be released more effectively, but I couldn't say on that side.
 
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