Cheap High Quality Bubbler
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blankrider
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Does anyone want to talk about a custom FC bubbler?
This has been mentioned a few times but doesn't go anywhere. I am thinking a 187 sidecar with no labels. Can on right side, I don't like how the W is left handed
This has been mentioned a few times but doesn't go anywhere. I am thinking a 187 sidecar with no labels. Can on right side, I don't like how the W is left handed
I wanna find a D020-w with a normal shaped mouthpiece for the same price!
(I'm ambidextrous - I like which side the mouthpiece is on, I use a torch in my left hand while using my Lotus. So the W is perfect for me, but I can always switch hands if needed)
(I'm ambidextrous - I like which side the mouthpiece is on, I use a torch in my left hand while using my Lotus. So the W is perfect for me, but I can always switch hands if needed)
MuushuPork
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Just got back from the LHS. They were selling china glass. Blue Honeycombs and all that jazz. $130.
So after fake hitting a rooster frit I want one, can we get ying on that? please.
So after fake hitting a rooster frit I want one, can we get ying on that? please.
pigfoot
Dabs are vapor too!
So, yeah, a matrix/sidecar/"normal" mouthpiece.....sounds good to me! But, as good as a D020 - FC
sounds, I think getting a consensus would be like herding cats
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Honestly, I'm hesitant to buy a cheap frit (even though I want one). I've seen a few horror stories recently about cheap frits (and some Massdrop fritted pieces) which were sub-par (glass pieces coming loose, crooked, cracked easily, etc).
When I ultimately decide to buy a fritted bubbler, I will probably look for something MUCH more expensive than anything listed on this thread
blankrider
Well-Known Member
Honestly, I'm hesitant to buy a cheap frit (even though I want one). I've seen horror stories recently about cheap frits (and some Massdrop fritted pieces) which were sub-par (glass pieces coming loose, crooked, cracked easily, etc).
When I ultimately decide to buy a fritted bubbler, I will probably look for something MUCH more expensive than anything listed on this thread
As much as I love cheap pieces this seems smart. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but frit is just tiny glass flakes all stuck together. I would not want any lack of quality control for a product full of tiny glass flakes which I am supposed to inhale through.
olivianewtonjohn
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I for sure wouldn't buy a frit from a Chinese manufacturer right now or anytime soon. But I wouldn't doubt they get it down 100% in the future. With the progress they have made I would not bet against them
SSVUN~YAH
You Must Unlearn, What You Have Learned...
My sunshine frit is still chugging along nicely... @jambandphan03 how is yours? I know some others jumped on it as well... 
My sunshine frit is still chugging along nicely... @jambandphanjam how is yours? I know some others jumped on it as well...
True, I recall some discussion about this a while back, and some people got some decent ones. There may be some pieces out there working great, and some might be DOA, but I'm still not risking it. A perc is one thing, but those frits still scare me.
MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
Im tempted to buy a mini rooster but figured id bring it up. Im way more concerned about lhs marking up china glass 200%.
PhotoRider
Diagnosed with level 11 G.A.S.
I think there is value in both ends of the spectrum of functional glass. There can be variations and quality issues with either end and either can be put together and function well. I depends on the source and their standards.
I own Chinese made glass. I have daily users that are from China. They are solid and functional pieces. My Octobongs from Black Leaf and my Blaze cage perk bubblers are going nowhere out of my collection. They are favs of mine. They have their place. You see funtional pieces are first a tool then can be art. If the piece functions and does the job, its an user. That's is the first goal of the 'functional' piece. Everything else is gravy.
That said, I have owned many, many Chinese made glass, given and or auctioned away many pieces that were users of mine. I have not found a piece equal to the mobius matrix perk. Very, very, very close though so I can see the difference can be missed unless side by side. However the quality of Mobius isn't actually better than many pieces I have from China. My mouth piece stem is angled and isn't straight. I looked over several at my LHS and selected the best one also. Ask Zangano Cruel who was with me when he did the same. That matrix perc is sweet, but one of a kind really
I say buy what works for you. That i have not found yet is a Chinese made recycler that I liked as a pure tool. Probably because I stopped looking, not because they aren't there...
The one thing we should not be is a snob. No benefit on that. If it works and is solid, it passes the main test, its a functional tool. No politics bah, bah, bah. Whoever can make a better mouse trap should be supported, I don't care where they live. This is one world. I support innovation and the people who make products that make my life better as long as they are moral.
Sorry, I don't have a comment on these pieces you are talking about. They do look sound though.
I own Chinese made glass. I have daily users that are from China. They are solid and functional pieces. My Octobongs from Black Leaf and my Blaze cage perk bubblers are going nowhere out of my collection. They are favs of mine. They have their place. You see funtional pieces are first a tool then can be art. If the piece functions and does the job, its an user. That's is the first goal of the 'functional' piece. Everything else is gravy.
That said, I have owned many, many Chinese made glass, given and or auctioned away many pieces that were users of mine. I have not found a piece equal to the mobius matrix perk. Very, very, very close though so I can see the difference can be missed unless side by side. However the quality of Mobius isn't actually better than many pieces I have from China. My mouth piece stem is angled and isn't straight. I looked over several at my LHS and selected the best one also. Ask Zangano Cruel who was with me when he did the same. That matrix perc is sweet, but one of a kind really
I say buy what works for you. That i have not found yet is a Chinese made recycler that I liked as a pure tool. Probably because I stopped looking, not because they aren't there...
The one thing we should not be is a snob. No benefit on that. If it works and is solid, it passes the main test, its a functional tool. No politics bah, bah, bah. Whoever can make a better mouse trap should be supported, I don't care where they live. This is one world. I support innovation and the people who make products that make my life better as long as they are moral.
Sorry, I don't have a comment on these pieces you are talking about. They do look sound though.
blankrider
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Thanks @PhotoRider ! Your unbiased input is greatly appreciated.
Check out this recycler.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-s...s/190893367.html#myaccount_orderdetail-1-null
There is a function video on here idk how many pages back. This thread has really been moving
Check out this recycler.
http://www.dhgate.com/product/new-s...s/190893367.html#myaccount_orderdetail-1-null
There is a function video on here idk how many pages back. This thread has really been moving
olivianewtonjohn
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Thanks @PhotoRider for your incite.
Have you thought about ordering this and comparing to your mobius?
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product...ass-smoking/188885599.html#sb1-2-1|1063517713
Seems pretty nice for the price even as a mobius backup:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-bubbler.5255/page-237#post-592334
Have you thought about ordering this and comparing to your mobius?
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product...ass-smoking/188885599.html#sb1-2-1|1063517713
Seems pretty nice for the price even as a mobius backup:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-bubbler.5255/page-237#post-592334
jambandphan03
in flavor country
I'm pretty happy with that frit ashcatcher for sure... even if it has a tiny crack in the side... it works really well with the OGB J hook stem I have. I like to let it ride sidecar style so I can see it... no problem at all with the frit coming loose on this one for me so far.My sunshine frit is still chugging along nicely... @jambandphan03 how is yours? I know some others jumped on it as well...
blankrider
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http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/hot-sell-glass-bong-glass-smoking-pipe-with/191000259.html
Hey everyone! Check out this 8 to 12 shrub I just found!
And before anyone else says it, it could definitely use a joint support
Hey everyone! Check out this 8 to 12 shrub I just found!
And before anyone else says it, it could definitely use a joint support
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Frederick McGuire
Aggressively Loungey
Ok, so I tried out both my yingmin pieces last night with the LSV.
Water test impressions:
Ion clone:
Holy shit, hits buttery smooth, incredibly similar to my möbius matrix pieces.
Very low drag, no chug, great stacking.
Stereo clone:
Amazing diffusion, again very low drag.
Has that familiar stemless drag initially, but smooths out once that bit of water is cleared. I filled it about 2/3 of the way up the top perc, which is my understanding o the recommended water level for a real stereo.
Actual use impressions:
Ion clone:
The diffusion feels a bit rougher, which seems odd to me.
My real matrix purrs very similarly during a water test, and during a hit, whereas this one feels a smidge rougher during the hit.
It's still a brilliant piece (and awesome value given the price), but given the choice, I'll still use my ion over this one.
Basically, no negatives to report at all
Stereo clone:
Another glowing review.
As janky as the mouthpiece looks, I like the viewing angle it provides.
I noticed a definite chug during the hit, but it didn't seem apparent in the can or by the look of the diffusion.
I hit it looking in a mirror, and determined that The diffusion up the internal stem from the bottom matrix just seems a bit chuggy in there.
Doesn't really affect the performance of the piece, but I don't remember that happening when I had my möbius 60t.
More reviews to come (hopefully with a vid of me in action) once I've used them a bit more
I knew going Into it that I most probably was gonna pass along the D020&-W to friends for combustion reasons.
(As with many member here) I cannot stand combustion anymore, and I can't vape out of a piece that's got combustion resin without a very thorough multi stage pbw, and ISO wash.
Because of that, my rule is that my buddies can use my glass as often as they want, but vapes only. Since they love smoking, it's lead to most of my collection being solely for my own use. I consider that scenario justifiably selfish
It was nice to see some cheap pieces that I still liked, that I knew I could lend to buddies on a semi permanent basis.
Water test impressions:
Ion clone:
Holy shit, hits buttery smooth, incredibly similar to my möbius matrix pieces.
Very low drag, no chug, great stacking.
Stereo clone:
Amazing diffusion, again very low drag.
Has that familiar stemless drag initially, but smooths out once that bit of water is cleared. I filled it about 2/3 of the way up the top perc, which is my understanding o the recommended water level for a real stereo.
Actual use impressions:
Ion clone:
The diffusion feels a bit rougher, which seems odd to me.
My real matrix purrs very similarly during a water test, and during a hit, whereas this one feels a smidge rougher during the hit.
It's still a brilliant piece (and awesome value given the price), but given the choice, I'll still use my ion over this one.
Basically, no negatives to report at all
Stereo clone:
Another glowing review.
As janky as the mouthpiece looks, I like the viewing angle it provides.
I noticed a definite chug during the hit, but it didn't seem apparent in the can or by the look of the diffusion.
I hit it looking in a mirror, and determined that The diffusion up the internal stem from the bottom matrix just seems a bit chuggy in there.
Doesn't really affect the performance of the piece, but I don't remember that happening when I had my möbius 60t.
More reviews to come (hopefully with a vid of me in action) once I've used them a bit more
Yep, I'll be keeping them both for the time being - I'm much more impressed by these 2 pieces than the D020&-W.
I knew going Into it that I most probably was gonna pass along the D020&-W to friends for combustion reasons.
(As with many member here) I cannot stand combustion anymore, and I can't vape out of a piece that's got combustion resin without a very thorough multi stage pbw, and ISO wash.
Because of that, my rule is that my buddies can use my glass as often as they want, but vapes only. Since they love smoking, it's lead to most of my collection being solely for my own use. I consider that scenario justifiably selfish
It was nice to see some cheap pieces that I still liked, that I knew I could lend to buddies on a semi permanent basis.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I have domestic ($300) and imported frits ($30).
Not overly impress regardless of were it's made!
Just my shatter dabber!
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fluffhead
Recovering Idealist
I wanted to give warning for those ordering the 187 to Canada. I ordered through their "other country DHL" listing on dhgate. It was $25 more than the US listing but I've come to expect costlier shipping here. At least it arrived in a week. However, when I received the bubbler, it came with a $20 COD bill for customs. Of course, 16 of those dollars were actually a processing fee from DHL, because it was only $3 in tax! 
In the end it cost me twice what it costs americans to order this bubbler. That said, for under $100 for a solid bubbler like this is still a good deal. But I wanted to let other Canadians know the true cost of this piece for us.
In the end it cost me twice what it costs americans to order this bubbler. That said, for under $100 for a solid bubbler like this is still a good deal. But I wanted to let other Canadians know the true cost of this piece for us.
Ordering glass from america costs $20+ for an Australian
I have domestic ($300) and imported frits ($30).
Not overly impress regardless of were it's made!
Just my shatter dabber!
Thanks for the input, I'm probably going to get one of those stereo matrix pieces in a week or two unless I find something better that I REALLY want
ou812?
Well-Known Member
Yeah I had you in mind Mister G. I'm really not sure about this one. Like I said when I lift my connections and clear the can there is a pretty strong vortex/tornado like action. But with the connections/gong/E-Nano on top the action is very different. To be honest I don't think it is very good. I'm still hoping that one of us may be able to figure it out. I had the picture in my mind that was posted here a while back with that super tornado action. Sadly it is nothing like that. Anyway, I will be very keen to hear how you do Mister G. Good luck
Been a while since I've posted (busy placing bully breeds to homes and making sure they are with good new owners) I have a large beauty of a piece from J.Pixel, (now theres an artist whose work is very nice and not breaking the bank and very affordable,eventually his work will rise in $$) I vape thru it w/aSolo (which we all know has major restriction even w/ a PVHES GonG) There is a cyclone perc and a shower head. Great piece ,can is very large and one can tell this bad boy was made for free burning flowers in. It takes a while to fill it and a beast to clear it too when vaping thru it .Never does the cyclone perc truly work well untill I bring out a combustion bowl and have at it, then it works the way it was designed. As far as vaping is concerned IMO I dont think you will see that perc truly in action until you do the unthinkable: BURN baby BURN.
IMO I think those types of percs truly need a good deal of air flowing thru them as when combusting, to get the cool tornado action!! YMMVBTW hello and glad to report back!! I see all of you enjoying Import glass as always. For those who buy the Top Artists rigs made here in NORTH AMER....ALL THE POWER TO YOU, if I had it I'd be there with you as well,( I think most of us like some of the finer things in life, but sometimes ones pocket just cant afford em
) but would also take part in the import. Nothing wrong with a bargain.if it works and YOU like it, thats all that matters ,if I were running a contest as in form,function,flaws,...yeah the import might not get 1st place but it would be a 2nd place runner up and at the same time ,for a lot of us on this thread, DOESNT PUT US IN TOO MUCH DEBT(that is if you dont buy 2-3 pieces a week ,like most of us import glass lovers
) and for the most part they work well and when they go to the glass grave yard, not too much time is spent mourning their loss.Its all good, CHOICES and OPTIONS, its what FREEDOM is all about!!
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jambandphan03
in flavor country
Wow, looks like that Kathy order is gonna make it here today, beating the 187 by a day or so, it's close... so close....
blankrider
Well-Known Member
I think I just figured out how pictures work
$63.64 yingmin
No joint support but I am pretty sure the Toro doesn't have one either
$63.64 yingmin
No joint support but I am pretty sure the Toro doesn't have one either