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[coolbreeze]

I call it the modular super slit donut (that is what they call the perc)

This makes more sense. I hope they'll put it back into production, it's a great vape waterpiece. I hope others will get to experience it.

Anyway yeah it goes so great with that Goo small three-piece, they are the perfect short and fat, tall and skinny, right angle fountain perk, top down stem hole perc, complimentary combo!

The hardest part is deciding!

 

[cybrguy]

I'm not really interested in the HD3, tough for me to clear a piece if it is too big, the TAG is on the line sometimes, though usually manageable for me

I would expect the interior volume of the 9" Donut and the HD3 to be very similar so clearing them would be similar depending on the MP one is using. The mouthpieces I use are pretty thick (mostly 16mm OD and 12mm ID) so I have no issues clearing any of these 3 pieces. YMMV.

I have always wondered where the TAG stuff came from, but their prices are relatively low for US vendors, but high for China.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I would expect the interior volume of the 9" Donut and the HD3 to be very similar so clearing them would be similar depending on the MP one is using. The mouthpieces I use are pretty thick (mostly 16mm OD and 12mm ID) so I have no issues clearing any of these 3 pieces. YMMV.

I don't think clearing is similar, because of the form factor difference, perc orientation... Good point about the mp, I have Goo and Phineas ones I use with my TAG through 45° angle adapters, diameter is different but so is length and other aspects...

A piece that is particularly difficult to clear, is the large bent neck gridded inline from Biao that is 14inch tall with a very wide can, like a large bong, so I think most of these rig designed pieces even though they are large are easier to clear by default comparatively.

I have always wondered where the TAG stuff came from, but their prices are relatively low for US vendors, but high for China.

Yeah, they are expensive on DHgate, the ones that have been found, but still cheaper than TAG prices, for the most part it's hard to find the exact same piece... Yingmin5 Lumin88 actually have quite a few similar pieces, and yes very thick glass, same styles, with slate variations, makes me think Genesis Glass could have an exclusive line with TAG, or it is another glass manufacturer (or multiple) it is similar to GRAV in that they have some exclusive China suppliers with exclusive pieces they are not allowed to sell to anyone else, they curate the designs and quality control for you, and mark up price!

 

[cybrguy]

The fact that TAG is now offering customs was part of the reason I thought they might be US made. It might be interesting to see how long it takes to get a custom order from them. My TAG piece came quickly and was shipped from in the US, but that doesn't mean they aren't just warehoused here.

I don't think clearing is similar, because of the form factor difference, perc orientation...

In my own experience they are similar, but like I said YMMV.

 

[Shit Snacks]

The fact that TAG is now offering customs was part of the reason I thought they might be US made. It might be interesting to see how long it takes to get a custom order from them. My TAG piece came quickly and was shipped from in the US, but that doesn't mean they aren't just warehoused here.

Oh, I did not know they had an option for custom orders, I wonder what that is like, how custom they can go... Probably pretty expensive, might take a while too? And yes they are shipped from the US, just like GRAV, CaliBear, and Greek Glass, but all reselling Chinese glass (do they claim otherwise?) Suppose it's possible TAG have another resource, within Colorado (bc its CO), to produce glass in the same style as well...

 

[cybrguy]

They are saying 3 to 4 months...

 

[Shit Snacks]

They are saying 3 to 4 months...

Oh okay, so this is just the option, to order anything, even when it's out of stock, and to customize it slightly (like the logo or colors used) though I wonder if they would do a full custom job this way too? Nice they offer!

 

[coolbreeze]

They are saying 3 to 4 months...

Order your modular super-slit donut today, have it by harvest!

 

[LesPlenty]

with exclusive pieces they are not allowed to sell to anyone else

Unless you ask them nicely and say you can't get them as you are not in the US. (How I got my Kromedome)

They are saying 3 to 4 months...

Their custom glass sounds more like they will just order a single unit of an unpopular model they no longer stock...it always costs more for singles out of the Gate.

 

[cybrguy]

I would expect the interior volume of the 9" Donut and the HD3 to be very similar so clearing them would be similar depending on the MP one is using.

After saying this I was curious, and the volume of these 2 pieces turns out to be almost identical.

It's Piaget's theory of conservation...

 

[bossman]

I don't have either 3 piece but the large inline works well with the Atlas, Tinymight and Anvil. I mostly hold it in one hand when in use so the lighter base is a good fit for the medium size

 

[LesPlenty]

Got my Seed Of Life Incycler from yingmin5 and did quite a lot of experimenting with water levels while dabbing and could not make a video by about take 8
So I did a quick guess later using my Roffu,

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My example has a slightly wobbly joint...not enough to leak air (or actually ask for a discount over) but enough to notice it at the end of a drop-down, enough to piss off the OCD crowd for sure as it annoys me!
Yinmin apologized and said they would look into the problem and will look after me next order.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks @LesPlenty! seeing the performance I am very glad I did not get one of these, seems to me like it only uses the top holes of the perc, while the holes in the funnel are way too high...? I'm really happy with the torus incycler I got from cannabis clouds, it has a similar SOL style to the perc though it is just three sets of four holes in a diamond pattern, I think all of the holes get used a bit more... though it does mean a bit more restriction in the pull through the piece than this one, I think it is compensated by the larger holes in the funnel and a much larger wider mouthpiece too... Mine was only $46 shipped within the US, arrived in a few days, I think can get this Lumin one for a similar price with coupons maybe on sale, though the shipping will of course take longer lol

 

[RustyOldNail]

Had a similar experience with my Klein Recycler with SOL perc. Had to suck so hard to get the water high enough to get into the upper section. Rig was very nice glass, but unfortunately I shelved it, as I would never have enough lung power to get the recycling action I saw in videos. That’s why LesPlenty’s video is good, as it shows the action with a device IN USE! A lot if not all sellers videos online, show water action with NOTHING on the rig/joint, thus NO RESTRICTION, and obviously not real world use. I’m not even sold on moving all that water and it’s overall benefits. For me, I’d never buy another in that style.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Had a similar experience with my Klein Recycler with SOL perc. Had to suck so hard to get the water high enough to get into the upper section. Rig was very nice glass, but unfortunately I shelved it, as I would never have enough lung power to get the recycling action I saw in videos. That’s why LesPlenty’s video is good, as it shows the action with a device IN USE! A lot if not all sellers videos online, show water action with NOTHING on the rig/joint, thus NO RESTRICTION, and obviously not real world use. I’m not even sold on moving all that water and it’s overall benefits. For me, I’d never buy another in that style.

You are so right, Les is the man, being able to see them function with vapes, and also dabs, helps much more than seeing it function empty haha even with torch banger it's hard to get the airflow as open as when it is empty... However it depends on the piece, water level stuff, because the idea with dabs, is you have more water, so that there is less volume that the vapor is actually filling, to maintain taste and keep it cool, I read something about that specifically with recyclers so it is changing the way I think about loading too much water, because I am someone who likes to load less water in most of my pieces, but now I kind of like to mix it up, depending on what I am using etc.

 

[FlyingLow]

I hate incyclers... never found one that functioned with any resistance, they only cycle when clearing.

 

[LesPlenty]

With more water and dabbing, not so bad...maybe a bit less water?

 

[Ramahs]

I hate incyclers... never found one that functioned with any resistance, they only cycle when clearing.

That was the impression I got from the majority of the vape community all over the intertubes, that klein recyclers didn't function well with vaporizers because the function wasn't there with the resistance/slower inhale of a vape. That's why I never bought one.

 

[RustyOldNail]

That was the impression I got from the majority of the vape community all over the intertubes, that klein recyclers didn't function well with vaporizers because the function wasn't there with the resistance/slower inhale of a vape. That's why I never bought one.

Yup… before I bought the rig…. I bought the HYPE!

 

[gordontreeman]

That was the impression I got from the majority of the vape community all over the intertubes, that klein recyclers didn't function well with vaporizers because the function wasn't there with the resistance/slower inhale of a vape. That's why I never bought one.

I'm not looking to buy a klein recycler anytime soon, but this characterization would depend on the vape, no? My woodscents has a lot of draw restriction so I imagine it would perform similarly to Les' first video. My P80 meanwhile has a wide open airflow and performs very well with rips as opposed to sips.

I'm not disagreeing or trying to start an argument, I just don't think this particular recycler is performing poorly due to anything about vapes--it just looks like a bad design to me. The recycling inlets are way too high.

 

[RustyOldNail]

The recycling inlets are way too high.

They are the same in mine, the holes are “HIGH”, to aid in filling up the UPPER chamber, then when your draw is finished, assuming you drew hard enough, the now FULL upper chamber drains down, it’s a neat effect. I don’t have enough lung power to draw that hard for that long to fill the upper chamber on mine, so it’s too much work for me. Thus the restriction of your device does play a role. Perhaps they work better as designed for a combustion bowl, with way less restriction. The Klein Recycler design has been around for some time, I believe they figured out the proper placement of the water hole inlets….

 

[gordontreeman]

They are the same in mine, the holes are “HIGH”, to aid in filling up the UPPER chamber, then when your draw is finished, assuming you drew hard enough, the now FULL upper chamber drains down, it’s a neat effect. I don’t have enough lung power to draw that hard for that long to fill the upper chamber on mine, so it’s too much work for me. Thus the restriction of your device does play a role. Perhaps they work better as designed for a combustion bowl, with way less restriction. The Klein Recycler design has been around for some time, I believe they figured out the proper placement of the water hole inlets….

Yeah maybe for combustion. My point was mostly that saying “Klein incyclers don’t work with vaporizers” is probably not accurate, as quite a few vapes don’t add much restriction relative to a bowl designed for combustion. Whether it works for you and your vapes is another question, but I don’t really like recyclers that’s only function after you pull a bowl/slide out so this one doesn’t look like a design I would personally consider very effective.

 

[Shit Snacks]

that klein recyclers didn't function well with vaporizers

I'm not looking to buy a klein recycler anytime soon, but this characterization would depend on the vape

The Klein Recycler design has been around for some time, I believe they figured out the proper placement of the water hole inlets

I have to point out, that you guys are speaking too broadly, because you were talking about a Torus style Klein incycler, not Klein recyclers in general... And for the record as I said, the one that I bought, does not have the holes too high, they are in the middle of the funnel (there is one higher hole just so you can fully drain the piece when emptying water) though it still requires a lot of airflow to recycle fully and depends on the vape being used as I said... Like any water piece design, no two are created equal, there are so many different versions made by different manufacturers... Other style Klein recyclers can work great with a variety of vapes and are not as tricky with the airflow and function and water levels... Like remember that other one I have, that is only incycler for the drain, but the top is an outer uptake tube, not quite a klein because of the shape of the vortex funnel, but it does work great with most everything I have, and there are many kleins that are full recyclers with no in cycling for the funnel or the drain, they can be very effective without the same problems that the ones we are discussing now suffer from... I was always skeptical about the design, though since they are popular I was curious, I'm glad I finally got one I am happy with, for its unique style and price etc, but yes I am seeing as I said that it does not work with most vapes for the airflow, though I need to try it for dabbing!

 

[Ramahs]

I'm not looking to buy a klein recycler anytime soon, but this characterization would depend on the vape, no? My woodscents has a lot of draw restriction so I imagine it would perform similarly to Les' first video. My P80 meanwhile has a wide open airflow and performs very well with rips as opposed to sips.

I'm not disagreeing or trying to start an argument, I just don't think this particular recycler is performing poorly due to anything about vapes--it just looks like a bad design to me. The recycling inlets are way too high.

Even with high wide-open airflow vapes like my Flowerpot, I would still have the same issue. The recycler function would only happen when I cleared the thing.

Of course most of these would probably be fine for dabbing, I would assume.

 

[beluga808]

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I'm wondering if this type of diffusor is good for vaping flower or should I look for something else?